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Coaching Search: 7/8 Update - Magic to hire Jamahl Mosley per Woj

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Re: Coaching search 

Post#181 » by KillMonger » Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:20 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
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MagicFan101 wrote:If we don’t land a top 3 pick, this job is not going to attract a top candidate.

If that wasn’t already the case, it is now. Better and better jobs keep opening up.


I don't really agree with this.

Ownership has always given a very long leash to coaches and I am pretty sure everyone in the organization accepts this is going to be a lengthy rebuilding process.

It could be a very attractive job for someone looking for the runway to establish a culture and really put their stamp on the organization as a whole.


It's attractive in sense it's one of 30 jobs aveliable in strongest basketball league in the world.
Our previous coaching candidates Adrian Griffin and David Vanterpool , 5 years later, still didn't coach anybody. That's why nba coaching job will always be "attractive".

But in comparison to other aveliable jobs, Pelicans, Celtics, Blazers in particular, it's not attractive.
Most fixable aveliable teams are Celtics and Pacers. Celtics have everything required to me contender next year with few tweaks.
Pacers have 2 allstar level players in Brogdon and Sabonis and very nice assets in Levert and Turner to tweak roster into bright future. And also TJ Warren, who exploded in last year's playoffs will probably play more than 4 games. They are winning 48+ games next year regardless who takes them.
Pelicans are both attractive in sense you have Zion and Ingram, but also hard to balance roster.

Orlando has nobody right now worth talking about in sense of future greatness. Your selling point can't be "lenghty rebuilding process" knowing average lenght of tenure of nba coach is bit over 3 years.
Magic suck this year, next year start off cold, new caoch is already on ice and probably gone at some point during 3rd year.
That's why us landing top 3 pick is pivotal , even for coaching decision. If we strike out of luck this year in draft, we might as well be coached by Greg Popovich and Phil Jackson together and still be terrible team for years.

i'm curious.....are you ever optimistic about anything? you're so pessimistic i sometimes wonder if you're actually a fan of this team
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Re: Coaching search 

Post#182 » by Edrock » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:33 pm

Read on Twitter

His name was brought up & i didn't see this news shared. What're the chances the position gets filled before the draft?
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Re: Coaching search 

Post#183 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:00 pm

Edrock wrote:
Read on Twitter

His name was brought up & i didn't see this news shared. What're the chances the position gets filled before the draft?


1000% it gets filled before the draft. I’d imagine pretty quickly once the lottery is done.
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Re: Coaching search 

Post#184 » by Magic Mops » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:20 pm

KillMonger wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Knightro wrote:
I don't really agree with this.

Ownership has always given a very long leash to coaches and I am pretty sure everyone in the organization accepts this is going to be a lengthy rebuilding process.

It could be a very attractive job for someone looking for the runway to establish a culture and really put their stamp on the organization as a whole.


It's attractive in sense it's one of 30 jobs aveliable in strongest basketball league in the world.
Our previous coaching candidates Adrian Griffin and David Vanterpool , 5 years later, still didn't coach anybody. That's why nba coaching job will always be "attractive".

But in comparison to other aveliable jobs, Pelicans, Celtics, Blazers in particular, it's not attractive.
Most fixable aveliable teams are Celtics and Pacers. Celtics have everything required to me contender next year with few tweaks.
Pacers have 2 allstar level players in Brogdon and Sabonis and very nice assets in Levert and Turner to tweak roster into bright future. And also TJ Warren, who exploded in last year's playoffs will probably play more than 4 games. They are winning 48+ games next year regardless who takes them.
Pelicans are both attractive in sense you have Zion and Ingram, but also hard to balance roster.

Orlando has nobody right now worth talking about in sense of future greatness. Your selling point can't be "lenghty rebuilding process" knowing average lenght of tenure of nba coach is bit over 3 years.
Magic suck this year, next year start off cold, new caoch is already on ice and probably gone at some point during 3rd year.
That's why us landing top 3 pick is pivotal , even for coaching decision. If we strike out of luck this year in draft, we might as well be coached by Greg Popovich and Phil Jackson together and still be terrible team for years.

i'm curious.....are you ever optimistic about anything? you're so pessimistic i sometimes wonder if you're actually a fan of this team

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Re: Coaching search 

Post#185 » by MagicFan101 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:11 pm

Another one bites the dust!

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Re: Coaching search 

Post#186 » by MagicFan101 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:12 pm

Heaven help the woman who signs up for a life of negative Pepe-Mansplaining …

Magic Mops wrote:
KillMonger wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
It's attractive in sense it's one of 30 jobs aveliable in strongest basketball league in the world.
Our previous coaching candidates Adrian Griffin and David Vanterpool , 5 years later, still didn't coach anybody. That's why nba coaching job will always be "attractive".

But in comparison to other aveliable jobs, Pelicans, Celtics, Blazers in particular, it's not attractive.
Most fixable aveliable teams are Celtics and Pacers. Celtics have everything required to me contender next year with few tweaks.
Pacers have 2 allstar level players in Brogdon and Sabonis and very nice assets in Levert and Turner to tweak roster into bright future. And also TJ Warren, who exploded in last year's playoffs will probably play more than 4 games. They are winning 48+ games next year regardless who takes them.
Pelicans are both attractive in sense you have Zion and Ingram, but also hard to balance roster.

Orlando has nobody right now worth talking about in sense of future greatness. Your selling point can't be "lenghty rebuilding process" knowing average lenght of tenure of nba coach is bit over 3 years.
Magic suck this year, next year start off cold, new caoch is already on ice and probably gone at some point during 3rd year.
That's why us landing top 3 pick is pivotal , even for coaching decision. If we strike out of luck this year in draft, we might as well be coached by Greg Popovich and Phil Jackson together and still be terrible team for years.

i'm curious.....are you ever optimistic about anything? you're so pessimistic i sometimes wonder if you're actually a fan of this team

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Re: Coaching search 

Post#187 » by ogmagicfan » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:37 pm

How many coaching vacancies is that for teams in the league right now? Feels like alot more than an usual offseason.
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Post#188 » by RookieStar » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:04 pm

Wow.. DAL is open as well. Who wouldn't want to be the coach for the next face of the league phenom in Luka?
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Post#189 » by MasterGMer » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:17 pm

Will Luka demand a trade with these drama in Dallas? May be Carlisle knows the dysfunction of the franchise. Maybe there is smoke, there is fire. Huh Hah?
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Re: Coaching search 

Post#190 » by Bensational » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:39 pm

Carlisle is an extraordinary coach, I’ve always loved what he’s done with the teams he’s had. He hasn’t made this iteration of the Maverick work the best, but I’d be very curious to see where he ends up next. He could step right in and return Boston and Indiana to 50+ wins straight away, IMO.

I don’t think he’d be good for us, though. He seems better for mature teams at this point in his career.
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Post#191 » by RookieStar » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:39 pm

Sooo.. is CArlisle interested in Orlando or he wants championship caliber teams already?
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Post#192 » by Magic#1 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:10 pm

At the very least, Carlisle potentially goes to the top of the list for another team and fills their slot.
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Post#193 » by RookieStar » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:21 pm

Magic#1 wrote:At the very least, Carlisle potentially goes to the top of the list for another team and fills their slot.



oh yeah.. good "glass half-full thinking there"
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Post#194 » by basketballRob » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:29 pm

Darrell Armstrong might get his shot in Dallas.

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Post#195 » by RookieStar » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:44 pm

basketballRob wrote:Darrell Armstrong might get his shot in Dallas.

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With the up-coming phenom there? Unless Luka personally is campaigning for him, DAL will look for a big-name caliber coach for Luka.
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Re: Coaching search 

Post#196 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:52 pm

RookieStar wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Darrell Armstrong might get his shot in Dallas.

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With the up-coming phenom there? Unless Luka personally is campaigning for him, DAL will look for a big-name caliber coach for Luka.

Yeah, no they're not hiring Darrell for that gig. The NBA has become such a giant publicity stunt.
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Post#197 » by Max Power » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:59 pm

I think a guy like Carlisle probably goes straight to the Bucks coaching options. Championship coach available for a team on the cusp of getting there. I can see Portland bring very interested too. I’d love him in Orlando but I don’t think Carlisle wants to build from the ground floor. I honestly could see only SVG being interested of bigger name coaches due to the local ties he has.
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Re: Coaching search 

Post#198 » by ARandomStranger » Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:02 pm

To be fair, I wouldn't want to coach for half of the teams with vacancies right now. The majority of the jobs are tied to Superstars getting closer to free agency and your tenure corresponds with either them staying or going, so you either go there and have success day one, or you get jettisoned out with the exodus of the superstar. The other jobs look fine on paper, but then you realize one of them is tied to a first year GM, another with a team that has clearly mismanaged their roster for the last two years, and another roster that is filled with talent where the expectations is playoffs and if you fail you are going to be fired after one year.

Orlando is the best job on the market, realistically. Your only expectation is development and you are not tied at the hip to superstars who could leave or to extreme situations. Just my two cents on the matter.
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Re: Coaching search 

Post#199 » by basketballRob » Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:20 pm

I guess Bud and Ham could be interviewing for jobs after tonight. Can't imagine Bud making it another year.
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Post#200 » by Skybox » Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:01 am

I like Carlisle to BOS or MIL

Kidd to DAL

I’d like a first timer (Head Coach) like Vanterpool, Udoka, or Hammon but I’d be good with Atkinson too

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