2022-2023 Regular Season Game 63: Orlando Magic (26-36) at Milwaukee Bucks (44-17) - 8pm

[j_n]

Everything wrong with Magic offense in one picture.

Yes he made it, but teams know he can't punish them with accuracy nor volumen, so they tend to play Magic in similar fashion.

NBA players can't make 3s when unguarded, so kelle will score them , and he did, and proved you wrong

He was left like this 30 other times in same game, and proved you wrong 29 other times

He made 18 threes whole season. Dame Lillard made 56 threes in a month.

Post the 30 screenshots than...

The 4 on 5 is really a myth at this point, Fultz rarely hesitate to shoot when open on the corner, and outside of the Wizards(they do it to other players as well) no team really leave him alone to shoot open threes.

The problem is his pull up threes, if he took and made these regularly, forcing teams to go over the screens he would be very hard to stop in the pick n roll, for this team his hesitance to shoot on the wings is also a problem but lately he seems more willing to take these.

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Glass half-empty thought of the game. As usual, Orlando played 4 on 4 in the half court. This team MUST get a competent SG. AND: Suggs is incapable of playing SG on the offensive end. Stop that madness.

I love how minutes at SG were split completely between Harris and Suggs, he doesn’t even start, but you call out Suggs for SG woes.

Cole was better than Fultz off the bench with the same amount of minutes, but yeah we won’t talk about that.

I could write a post about how the starters go 4-14 from 3, led by Markelle Faultz, but yeah Suggs off the bench is the problem… lol

Paolo had 9 **** points in 32 minutes, while being a focal point of Orlando’s offense, because the POINT GUARDS don’t run **** to get him the ball in offensive sets. How does Paolo have the same number of assists as Fultz in 32 minutes? Holiday doubled that number, in less minutes, because he’s actually a point guard that runs offense.

Spare me with your biased glass half full/ half empty takes and stick to tracking the wins/losses in graph form.

[Ducklett]

And Fultz played in 8 playoff games in his entire career. Didn't start in 3 out of 8.

Fultz playoff stats:
8 ppg
45% TS.

Fultz playoff stats in picture




btw , weren't blazers in WCF in 2019?

And he hasn't won since.

And he got clapped 4-0 in those WCF.

You should lose your posting rights for even engaging a Dame vs Fultz offensive back and forth. We get it, you like Fultz…but comparing him to Dame (or FVV) is ludicrous. Just another case of arguing for the sake of arguing. Being “loyal” rather than remotely realistic.

When did you become such a pompous ass? First of all, I didn't compare Dame's game to Fultz. Dame is obviously the better player and it isn't close. What I was responding to was made 3s of Fultz in a the year to Dame's made 3s in a month, which is a stat that literally has no bearing on anything as they are different players, nor does it have a bearing on winning basketball. If Dame's 3 points made mattered, their record wouldn't be nearly ours with a much higher level of talent across the board (not counting that Dame might be better at basketball than any 3 Magicians combined). It is like showing that Cole has more rebounds in a month than Dame had in a year. It is a stat that doesn't actually matter.

And I will say it again in case you missed it: Dame is 10x the basketballer that Fultz is. You want to get rid of Fultz for a better player? Fine. But I called this when Bamba left and I bet as soon as we sign a FVV, you guys need a punching bag to blame things on. Bamba is gone, yall have a new one named Fultz. If FVV gets here, it is 3-5 bad games before you all whine about an overpaid role player. It has been like this for the whole time I have posted here.

[drsd]

mIL is an interesting parallel. Giannis pounds his way to the rim over and over (and the line). We’ve got our two best guys who largely do the same. 2 STARTERS didn’t even attempt a shot inside 3 and one other STARTER took far more 3’s than 2’s. One other 20 minute rotation guy only shot 3’s. Also, leading minutes guy off the bench took more 3’s than 2’s….IF YOUR PRIMARY OFFENSIVE PLAYER(s) IS A TANK, YOU MUST PROVIDE AIR SUPPORT. PERIOD.

If Fultz is our guy, fine…but get rid of Paolo then

Only upgrading at 2 is not going to do it…that’s not a solution, it’s a half-ass compromise. Hopefully our coaching staff is taking notes while getting blown out by “limited” role players BURYING their team.

I am not going to blame a rookie in clear fatigue when a sophomore is learning how to adapt to the NBA.

We really need to think about the 2024/25 season in these considerations.

I cannot see Orlando making the play-ins with the clear down-grade in Banchero's play. But it is encouraging that Fultz is basically the same player over these last 40+ games.


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[pepe1991]

And he hasn't won since.

And he got clapped 4-0 in those WCF.

You should lose your posting rights for even engaging a Dame vs Fultz offensive back and forth. We get it, you like Fultz…but comparing him to Dame (or FVV) is ludicrous. Just another case of arguing for the sake of arguing. Being “loyal” rather than remotely realistic.

When did you become such a pompous ass? First of all, I didn't compare Dame's game to Fultz. Dame is obviously the better player and it isn't close. What I was responding to was made 3s of Fultz in a the year to Dame's made 3s in a month, which is a stat that literally has no bearing on anything as they are different players, nor does it have a bearing on winning basketball. If Dame's 3 points made mattered, their record wouldn't be nearly ours with a much higher level of talent across the board (not counting that Dame might be better at basketball than any 3 Magicians combined). It is like showing that Cole has more rebounds in a month than Dame had in a year. It is a stat that doesn't actually matter.

And I will say it again in case you missed it: Dame is 10x the basketballer that Fultz is. You want to get rid of Fultz for a better player? Fine. But I called this when Bamba left and I bet as soon as we sign a FVV, you guys need a punching bag to blame things on. Bamba is gone, yall have a new one named Fultz. If FVV gets here, it is 3-5 bad games because you all whine about an overpaid role player. It has been like this for the whole time I have posted here.

Stat matter because it shows that Fultz doesn't shoot 3s at all. Nor makes them.

And comparing somebody's 6 year threes made total- to a allstar player's month shows how massive it is gap between elite PG and whatever Markelle Fultz is ( top 5 worst starter at position, probably top 3 ).

[cedric76]

NBA players can't make 3s when unguarded, so kelle will score them , and he did, and proved you wrong

He was left like this 30 other times in same game, and proved you wrong 29 other times

He made 18 threes whole season. Dame Lillard made 56 threes in a month.

Post the 30 screenshots than...

The 4 on 5 is really a myth at this point, Fultz rarely hesitate to shoot when open on the corner, and outside of the Wizards(they do it to other players as well) no team really leave him alone to shoot open threes.

The problem is his pull up threes, if he took and made these regularly, forcing teams to go over the screens he would be very hard to stop in the pick n roll, for this team his hesitance to shoot on the wings is also a problem but lately he seems more willing to take these.

No worries, it s just pepe peping

[drsd]

Cole was better than Fultz off the bench with the same amount of minutes, but yeah we won’t talk about that.

I for one am happy to talk about it.


A) Anthony was brilliant.

B) Fultz was good, but not very good. (Defense on Holiday not the best but very good shooting numbers)

C) G-Harris and Suggs were not-good.


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[Ducklett]

You should lose your posting rights for even engaging a Dame vs Fultz offensive back and forth. We get it, you like Fultz…but comparing him to Dame (or FVV) is ludicrous. Just another case of arguing for the sake of arguing. Being “loyal” rather than remotely realistic.

When did you become such a pompous ass? First of all, I didn't compare Dame's game to Fultz. Dame is obviously the better player and it isn't close. What I was responding to was made 3s of Fultz in a the year to Dame's made 3s in a month, which is a stat that literally has no bearing on anything as they are different players, nor does it have a bearing on winning basketball. If Dame's 3 points made mattered, their record wouldn't be nearly ours with a much higher level of talent across the board (not counting that Dame might be better at basketball than any 3 Magicians combined). It is like showing that Cole has more rebounds in a month than Dame had in a year. It is a stat that doesn't actually matter.

And I will say it again in case you missed it: Dame is 10x the basketballer that Fultz is. You want to get rid of Fultz for a better player? Fine. But I called this when Bamba left and I bet as soon as we sign a FVV, you guys need a punching bag to blame things on. Bamba is gone, yall have a new one named Fultz. If FVV gets here, it is 3-5 bad games because you all whine about an overpaid role player. It has been like this for the whole time I have posted here.

Stat matter because it shows that Fultz doesn't shoot 3s at all. Nor makes them.

And comparing somebody's 6 year threes made total- to a allstar player's month shows how massive it is gap between elite PG and whatever Markelle Fultz is ( top 5 worst starter at position, probably top 3 ).

I guess Buddy Heild is a superstar elite SG as he shoots just as many 3s as Dame but at a 5% higher clip. And Keegan Murray is certainly ROTY and it isn't close, he already an elite SF!

[drsd]

Stat matter because it shows that Fultz doesn't shoot 3s at all. Nor makes them.

Stats also make G-Harris look not-horrible.

Yes 44.4% three-ball shooting is great, but in context, his rate of shooting is poor and G-Harris is offering literally nothing else on the court than his 4 three-balls he shoots per game.

This can't continue.

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Cole was better than Fultz off the bench with the same amount of minutes, but yeah we won’t talk about that.

I for one am happy to talk about it.


A) Anthony was brilliant.

B) Fultz was good, but not very good. (Defense on Holiday not the best but very good shooting numbers)

C) G-Harris and Suggs were not-good.


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Don’t take this the wrong way drsd.

But sometimes I can’t tell if you are a ChatGPT program with your posts. I haven’t for years.

[drsd]

I guess Buddy Heild is a superstar elite SG as he shoots just as many 3s as Dame but at a 5% higher clip. And Keegan Murray is certainly ROTY and it isn't close, he already an elite SF!

A player like Hield would do so much for this Magic team.


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[Ducklett]

I guess Buddy Heild is a superstar elite SG as he shoots just as many 3s as Dame but at a 5% higher clip. And Keegan Murray is certainly ROTY and it isn't close, he already an elite SF!

A player like Hield would do so much for this Magic team.


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I agree. I am sure we could get Corey Kispert from the Wizards for both our 1sts this year.

I know everyone is on FVV's jock, but I would give any amount of money to sign Desmond Bane. Dude would revolutionize our offense minute one.

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I guess Buddy Heild is a superstar elite SG as he shoots just as many 3s as Dame but at a 5% higher clip. And Keegan Murray is certainly ROTY and it isn't close, he already an elite SF!

A player like Hield would do so much for this Magic team.


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I agree. I am sure we could get Corey Kispert from the Wizards for both our 1sts this year.

We could probably get Kispert for an autograph from Stuff.

I don’t think we need to trade one first for him, let alone both.

[pepe1991]

When did you become such a pompous ass? First of all, I didn't compare Dame's game to Fultz. Dame is obviously the better player and it isn't close. What I was responding to was made 3s of Fultz in a the year to Dame's made 3s in a month, which is a stat that literally has no bearing on anything as they are different players, nor does it have a bearing on winning basketball. If Dame's 3 points made mattered, their record wouldn't be nearly ours with a much higher level of talent across the board (not counting that Dame might be better at basketball than any 3 Magicians combined). It is like showing that Cole has more rebounds in a month than Dame had in a year. It is a stat that doesn't actually matter.

And I will say it again in case you missed it: Dame is 10x the basketballer that Fultz is. You want to get rid of Fultz for a better player? Fine. But I called this when Bamba left and I bet as soon as we sign a FVV, you guys need a punching bag to blame things on. Bamba is gone, yall have a new one named Fultz. If FVV gets here, it is 3-5 bad games because you all whine about an overpaid role player. It has been like this for the whole time I have posted here.

Stat matter because it shows that Fultz doesn't shoot 3s at all. Nor makes them.

And comparing somebody's 6 year threes made total- to a allstar player's month shows how massive it is gap between elite PG and whatever Markelle Fultz is ( top 5 worst starter at position, probably top 3 ).

I guess Buddy Heild is a superstar elite SG as he shoots just as many 3s as Dame but at a 5% higher clip. And Keegan Murray is certainly ROTY and it isn't close, he already an elite SF!

[Ducklett]

Stat matter because it shows that Fultz doesn't shoot 3s at all. Nor makes them.

And comparing somebody's 6 year threes made total- to a allstar player's month shows how massive it is gap between elite PG and whatever Markelle Fultz is ( top 5 worst starter at position, probably top 3 ).

I guess Buddy Heild is a superstar elite SG as he shoots just as many 3s as Dame but at a 5% higher clip. And Keegan Murray is certainly ROTY and it isn't close, he already an elite SF!

I guess I am a bit lost because you made 3 points.

1) Fultz is a bottom 5 PG, which I would agree, I think he might be the worst starting PG
2) Fultz doesn't take many 3s and doesn't make many 3s. I agree. However, do you really want someone who doesn't make 3s to take them?
3) An elite 3 point shooter is better than a bad 3 point shooter. I agree.

[drsd]

But sometimes I can’t tell if you are a ChatGPT program with your posts. I haven’t for years.

Gave it a go. Here it is.


Will Banchero win the rookie of the year:
It's difficult to predict whether a particular player will win Rookie of the Year, as many factors can influence the outcome, including the player's performance, team success, injuries, and competition from other rookies. However, Paolo Banchero, who I assume is the player you're referring to, is a highly touted prospect in the 2022 NBA Draft, and many experts believe he has the potential to become an impact player at the next level. If he is drafted by a team with a need at his position and given significant playing time, he could certainly be in the running for Rookie of the Year honors. However, it remains to be seen how his game will translate to the NBA, so we'll have to wait and see how things unfold.

Will the Orlando Magic make the play-ins this year:
As an AI language model, I cannot predict the future with certainty, and I do not have access to the current statistics or team performance. However, I can tell you that making the play-ins depends on various factors, including the team's performance, injury status of players, and strength of schedule. The Orlando Magic's chances of making the play-ins will depend on how well they perform over the course of the season and how other teams in their conference perform.

Is the Orlando Magic improving:
The Orlando Magic has been in a rebuilding phase over the past couple of years, which has involved making several trades and acquiring young players and draft picks to build for the future. While they've had some ups and downs, the team has shown some signs of improvement, particularly with the development of young players like Cole Anthony, Wendell Carter Jr., and Mo Bamba.
That being said, it's important to keep in mind that rebuilding takes time, and the Magic may not see immediate results in terms of wins and losses. However, with a strong foundation of young talent and draft assets, they have the potential to improve and become a competitive team in the future. Ultimately, only time will tell how successful their rebuilding efforts will be.






And there you go.

[drsd]

7 to 26....

Well: 9 to 26. But still.


9 X 3 = 27
26 X 3 = 78

78 - 27 = 51. The Bucks scored 51 MORE points from behind the arc than Orlando did. Sad.


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[Mc-o]

I guess Buddy Heild is a superstar elite SG as he shoots just as many 3s as Dame but at a 5% higher clip. And Keegan Murray is certainly ROTY and it isn't close, he already an elite SF!

A player like Hield would do so much for this Magic team.


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He would
Be perfect lol

[JoshuaPotter]

7 to 26....

Well: 9 to 26. But still.


9 X 3 = 27
26 X 3 = 78

78 - 27 = 51. The Bucks scored 51 MORE points from behind the arc than Orlando did. Sad.


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Where is the 3's don't matter crowd?

[drsd]

Moritz 3pt shot has deserted him.

He’s a career 32% 3pt shooter shooting 32% this year. He shouldn’t be taking as many as he does. He has a Steph Curry green light for some reason.

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