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2024-2025 Regular Season Game 7: Orlando Magic (3-3) at Dallas Mavericks (3-2)

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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 7: Orlando Magic (3-3) at Dallas Mavericks (3-2) 

Post#181 » by thelead » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:32 am

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thelead wrote:Franz just isn't a max player. What a stupid mistake that was.

And don't come at me because I do like Franz.


This is just such small potatoes though.

If he's not a max player, he's still a 40M AAV player and the difference is just so minimal that it isn't worth fretting over.

I've maintained that he's a 35M AAV player (similar to Sengun's contract). Makes a difference IMO.
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 7: Orlando Magic (3-3) at Dallas Mavericks (3-2) 

Post#182 » by JF5 » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:32 am

penny_nz wrote:Hold on were people actually talking badly about Paolo saying he made us worse???

Just tuned in and wondering why I did ... and now WCJ hurt?


He twisted his ankle...
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Post#183 » by VFX » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:33 am

Knightro wrote:
thelead wrote:Franz just isn't a max player. What a stupid mistake that was.

And don't come at me because I do like Franz.


This is just such small potatoes though.

If he's not a max player, he's still a 40M AAV player and the difference is just so minimal that it isn't worth fretting over.


It’s more about the principle.

Doncic and Franz are both max guys. Not even in his stratosphere.
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 7: Orlando Magic (3-3) at Dallas Mavericks (3-2) 

Post#184 » by mattyBoi » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:33 am

So many of these dudes got paid.
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 7: Orlando Magic (3-3) at Dallas Mavericks (3-2) 

Post#185 » by Knightro » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:33 am

Black: 11 minutes, 0 points, 0 assists, 5 turnovers, -23.

Yeesh.
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Post#186 » by thelead » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:33 am

Knightro wrote:People turning on Franz is the most predictable nonsense of the season. That's for sure.

To turn, the opinion would have to change. I've always said that he wasn't worth a max.
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Post#187 » by GameOver25 » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:33 am

28 pts LOL, 4 mins left in 2nd qtr.
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Post#188 » by djguevara114 » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:33 am

I’m so glad that we have a GM that wants to pay guys for being good people instead of production and a coach that wants to roast marshmallows and sing campfire songs because it’s all about positivity and giving each other hugs…

20M a season a WCJ?!? Should have traded him while his value was decent on an 11M contract.

20M for KCP???

20M for Isaac???

And Franz looks like a drastic overpay and soon to be albatross contract… You pay a guy max money because they have the potential to be a number one—Franz is showing he ain’t.
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Post#189 » by SOUL » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:34 am

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Post#190 » by eyriq » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:34 am

Knightro wrote:Black: 11 minutes, 0 points, 0 assists, 5 turnovers, -23.

Yeesh.
Not a good showing. Looked unplayable.
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Post#191 » by CalOrl11 » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:35 am

Jett's basketball IQ is just terrible
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Post#192 » by 3ddman23 » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:35 am

VFX wrote:
Knightro wrote:
thelead wrote:Franz just isn't a max player. What a stupid mistake that was.

And don't come at me because I do like Franz.


This is just such small potatoes though.

If he's not a max player, he's still a 40M AAV player and the difference is just so minimal that it isn't worth fretting over.


It’s more about the principle.

Doncic and Franz are both max guys. Not even in his stratosphere.


Ones a super max the other is a rookie max. Cade, mobley, Franz & barnes got it. You could argue non of those guys deserve it if your comparing it to Luka.
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Post#193 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:35 am

We can go ahead and forfeit this game.
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 7: Orlando Magic (3-3) at Dallas Mavericks (3-2) 

Post#194 » by penny_nz » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:35 am

Oh man this is embarrassing
I still believe in Magic! Welcome to the Franz & Paolo era
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 7: Orlando Magic (3-3) at Dallas Mavericks (3-2) 

Post#195 » by Knightro » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:36 am

VFX wrote:
Knightro wrote:
thelead wrote:Franz just isn't a max player. What a stupid mistake that was.

And don't come at me because I do like Franz.


This is just such small potatoes though.

If he's not a max player, he's still a 40M AAV player and the difference is just so minimal that it isn't worth fretting over.


It’s more about the principle.

Doncic and Franz are both max guys. Not even in his stratosphere.


It's not though. You're smart enough to understand how these things work. It's about retaining an asset as much as anything else.

And obviously if there was no limit on contracts, Luka would make probably double what Franz makes.

The top tier guys league are actually underpaid given what they provide.
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Post#196 » by LongHairedBob » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:36 am

Hopefully we can make the play in...
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Post#197 » by eyriq » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:36 am

I really don't like Jett. Trying my best
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 7: Orlando Magic (3-3) at Dallas Mavericks (3-2) 

Post#198 » by The-Stallion70 » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:37 am

The Luka special chuck that **** in from the ocean four times in a row
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This trade wasn't some conspiracy - it was just a GM wanting AD bad enough where in most people's eyes he overpaid by a long shot to get him.
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 7: Orlando Magic (3-3) at Dallas Mavericks (3-2) 

Post#199 » by HighPack » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:37 am

Fultz was better than KCP
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Post#200 » by Audi » Mon Nov 4, 2024 1:37 am

Kidd is a fking fool keeping starters in at this point. Luka tears an Achilles or something farting around up this much would be like taking a dump on an elevator.

Taking sh*t to a whole other level.
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