The 2022 NBA Draft Thread

Xatticus · Post #1821 » by **Xatticus** » Sun Mar 6, 2022 10:44 pm

Rainwater wrote:
Skin wrote:
Rainwater wrote:Watched highlights of Jabari again. I just don't know man. The magic badly need a dynamic scorer and play maker don't see that in Jabari. All his points came off screens or off a catch, jab step, and shot. Outside some decent defense he really doesn't do much. I really don't know if you can teach someone how to be a creative ball handler/creator/ play maker. I just wished there was a lot more creativity in his game. He gives me Wiggins vibes in terms of hype he may not live up to.

Kinda reminds me of Channing Frye at times

Pretty much

Yep. That's him. Nailed it. He is exactly like that dude that hit 6 three point shots in four years of college ball.

Rainwater · Post #1822 » by **Rainwater** » Sun Mar 6, 2022 10:49 pm

Xatticus wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
Skin wrote:Kinda reminds me of Channing Frye at times

Pretty much

Yep. That's him. Nailed it. He is exactly like that dude that hit 6 three point shots in four years of college ball.

Lol, obviously we are talking about the NBA Channing Frye. You know the guy who hit 1048 3pointers in his career at a nearly .40 clip. And we are talking about if Jabari doesn't hit his potential which I have admitted he his plenty of.

Seriously what is your deal, lol?!?

Xatticus · Post #1823 » by **Xatticus** » Sun Mar 6, 2022 10:52 pm

Rainwater wrote:
Xatticus wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
Pretty much

Yep. That's him. Nailed it. He is exactly like that dude that hit 6 three point shots in four years of college ball.

Lol, obviously we are talking about the NBA Channing Fye.

Seriously what is your deal?!?

My “deal” is mocking a hilariously bad comp.

Rainwater · Post #1824 » by **Rainwater** » Sun Mar 6, 2022 11:16 pm

Xatticus wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
Xatticus wrote:
Yep. That's him. Nailed it. He is exactly like that dude that hit 6 three point shots in four years of college ball.

Lol, obviously we are talking about the NBA Channing Fye.

Seriously what is your deal?!?

My “deal” is mocking a hilariously bad comp.

I added more in my comment for context after you replied. Just speaking on the offensive end, wasn't Channing Frye not a very good spot up shooter in the NBA, basically what Jabari does in college.

Obviously we are talking about Jabari if he doesn't meet his potential, if he doesn't expand his game with his handles and add more to his offensive game. Strictly speaking on the offensive end, how is comparing a guy to someone with the same body type, same limited handles, limited or inability to use their athleticism, similarly shoot well from 3 with a 3point percentage of 40% in his prime seen as a terrible comparison. And we are saying this is his floor, how is this a poor comparison?

This is said with all due respect with your past love for players like AG I don't really trust your player evaluations either.

basketballRob · Post #1825 » by **basketballRob** » Sun Mar 6, 2022 11:26 pm

How about Jabari Smith compared to Jayson Tatum?

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Rainwater · Post #1826 » by **Rainwater** » Sun Mar 6, 2022 11:45 pm

Xatticus wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
Xatticus wrote:
Yep. That's him. Nailed it. He is exactly like that dude that hit 6 three point shots in four years of college ball.

Lol, obviously we are talking about the NBA Channing Fye.

Seriously what is your deal?!?

My “deal” is mocking a hilariously bad comp.

You knew what I meant when I say what your deal is? Lol. Your takes are more personal than it is basketball. Its like you can't wait til you take a jab especially when I barely comment on your post any more. I just don't get your obsession.

I thought the beef was because you are much more an optimist than I am. If something sucks I say it while you seem hopeful about almost everything and there is nothing wrong with that. I'm just not that guy. But I thought after AG left it would die down but it still continues. You are a really good poster but the way you follow me on these boards is weird.

Rainwater · Post #1827 » by **Rainwater** » Sun Mar 6, 2022 11:47 pm

basketballRob wrote:How about Jabari Smith compared to Jayson Tatum?

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I think that is what some people believe.

basketballRob · Post #1828 » by **basketballRob** » Sun Mar 6, 2022 11:58 pm

Rainwater wrote:
basketballRob wrote:How about Jabari Smith compared to Jayson Tatum?

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I think that is what some people believe.

Jabari has a little more size but Tatum played the same way as him in college.

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Rainwater · Post #1829 » by **Rainwater** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 12:03 am

basketballRob wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
basketballRob wrote:How about Jabari Smith compared to Jayson Tatum?

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I think that is what some people believe.
Jabari has a little more size but Tatum played the same way in college.

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I remember Tatum in High School but not in college for some reason but Tatum had far better handles, play making ability, and was a good finisher.

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JF5 · Post #1830 » by **JF5** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 2:21 am

Jabari Smith has a very weak handle. He's not a guy you'd give it to on 1on1 situations.

His best case for Development would be Rashard Lewis. Worst case would be Channing Frye.

Post #1831 » by **Knightro** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 2:34 am

Houston topples Memphis with the assist to the Magic on tiring the Grizzlies out last night :lol:

thelead · Post #1832 » by **thelead** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 3:07 am

I get that everyone wants a dynamic scorer with elite handles... count me in... but not every draft has a guy like that.

Rainwater · Post #1833 » by **Rainwater** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 3:30 am

I really don't know how people don't see Frye as a floor for Jabari (offensively that is). They literally get their points the same way.

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tiderulz · Post #1834 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 3:34 am

Rainwater wrote:I really don't know how people don't see Frye as a floor for Jabari (offensively that is). They literally get their points the same way.

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its not a bad floor for an 18 yr old.

Rainwater · Post #1835 » by **Rainwater** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 3:59 am

thelead wrote:I get that everyone wants a dynamic scorer with elite handles... count me in... but not every draft has a guy like that.

If the magic truly believe that Jabari is the best player in this years draft go ahead and draft him. However, there are guys, in my eyes, who have shown more in terms of natural skills like Paolo, Chet, and Ivey (although his shot is lacking) that I'd rather take a shot with.

With the exception of Franz and maybe Mario (although he was great leader), the magic in recent years tend to draft guys who are athletes, projects, or guys who lacked offensive skills. Guys like AG and Mo. Kinda wish they would go after some scorers.

Maybe my issue is that if the magic do draft Jabari and as he really can't create, the magic will count more on Suggs or Fultz to be those dynamic guards something I don't believe they are suited to do.

It's whatever, I'm ranting. I can be wrong and Jabari blows up and there will be more drafts. So it's whatever.

Post #1836 » by **Knightro** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 4:00 am

thelead wrote:I get that everyone wants a dynamic scorer with elite handles... count me in... but not every draft has a guy like that.

It's like the main (only?) thing that makes Shaedon Sharpe appealing.

Rainwater · Post #1837 » by **Rainwater** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 4:03 am

tiderulz wrote:
Rainwater wrote:I really don't know how people don't see Frye as a floor for Jabari (offensively that is). They literally get their points the same way.

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its not a bad floor for an 18 yr old.

No, I don't disagree but to say it's not a good comparison is what I find crazy.

I just hope Jabari reaches his ceiling for whatever team he plays for.

Rainwater · Post #1838 » by **Rainwater** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 4:05 am

Knightro wrote:
thelead wrote:I get that everyone wants a dynamic scorer with elite handles... count me in... but not every draft has a guy like that.

It's like the main (only?) thing that makes Shaedon Sharpe appealing.

I've heard his name so many times now. I need to check him out.

PrimeThyme · Post #1839 » by **PrimeThyme** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 4:06 am

Rainwater wrote:They literally get their points the same way.

No, they don't. But then again, I don't think I've ever seen you make a nuanced point in your entire history of troll posting this board so I can't say I'm surprised. Carry on.

Post #1840 » by **Bensational** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 4:10 am

tiderulz wrote:
Rainwater wrote:I really don't know how people don't see Frye as a floor for Jabari (offensively that is). They literally get their points the same way.

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its not a bad floor for an 18 yr old.

That’s the difference - 18 v 26. Frye was 8 years older before he added the 3 to his game in the NBA (though he likely always had the shot since he came out shooting 40% on high volume that first season he did.)

But they don’t get their points the same way, short of the obvious relation that they both shoot the ball well from deep. Frye was much slower, never one to grab a board and go, and especially not one to then pull up for a shot from deep in the same move. Frye never carried the offensive load or attention of the defense that Jabari does, either. His wide open 3’s were by the nature that he was not feared or respected as a volume scorer. Frye never had the kind of FT rate that Jabari already shows at 18. Jabari has a USG% of 27.5 and PER of 25.5 and Frye never came close to touching either in college or the pros.

Jabari might have a similar profile to Frye (he’s tall and he shoots good) but his impact is closer to Ross or Lewis when either were on and raining buckets, but he’s already looking more reliable than Ross.

Who is your early favorite?