Official UCF Sports Thread - Basketball: NIT Bid? Football: Spring Practice Underway

[dsg2003mach1]

kinda crazy if that whole fired TA thing is true but at the same time there was plenty of stuff in that game that were just poor decisions.

Wish I had been able to watch the second half but maybe JRP learned a lesson about some of the **** he's been doing. That extra half yard made no difference in the field position situation and look what it got him.

[Trailbreaker]

What a game, we showed such great resolve in keeping up with Cincinnati and Keene really stepped up. Bowser is such a beast, too.

[golfreak]

No one have mention the new TV contract.
To go from less than $10 millions per yr to over $50 millions in 2025 is insane.
UCF have really made it to the big dance. In 2025, chances are UCF will bring in more than Miami or FSU. That's just absurd. The ACC really really signed a bad TV contract.

BTW, I think losing to ECU the previous week was a blessing in disguise.
The FACT is that UCF had to beat Cinci for any chance to win the conference and a NY6 berth. UCF just have to win out and they will get a NY6 berth.
Had UCF beat ECU the previous week, this would have been an ESPN marque matchup and maybe Cincinnati would have been gunning for this game more.

[dsg2003mach1]

No one have mention the new TV contract.
To go from less than $10 millions per yr to over $50 millions in 2025 is insane.
UCF have really made it to the big dance. In 2025, chances are UCF will bring in more than Miami or FSU. That's just absurd. The ACC really really signed a bad TV contract.

BTW, I think losing to ECU the previous week was a blessing in disguise.
The FACT is that UCF had to beat Cinci for any chance to win the conference and a NY6 berth. UCF just have to win out and they will get a NY6 berth.
Had UCF beat ECU the previous week, this would have been an ESPN marque matchup and maybe Cincinnati would have been gunning for this game more.

hmmm, the quick google search the other day made it sounds like if Big 12 teams finalize the deal in the works teams would get around 31-32 million in tv money. $50 million was what I was seeing for the SEC. Either way, an extra ~20million is a huge boost for the program

[golfreak]

No one have mention the new TV contract.
To go from less than $10 millions per yr to over $50 millions in 2025 is insane.
UCF have really made it to the big dance. In 2025, chances are UCF will bring in more than Miami or FSU. That's just absurd. The ACC really really signed a bad TV contract.

BTW, I think losing to ECU the previous week was a blessing in disguise.
The FACT is that UCF had to beat Cinci for any chance to win the conference and a NY6 berth. UCF just have to win out and they will get a NY6 berth.
Had UCF beat ECU the previous week, this would have been an ESPN marque matchup and maybe Cincinnati would have been gunning for this game more.

hmmm, the quick google search the other day made it sounds like if Big 12 teams finalize the deal in the works teams would get around 31-32 million in tv money. $50 million was what I was seeing for the SEC. Either way, an extra ~20million is a huge boost for the program

Yeah $32 millions is just TV money. If you add in playoffs, bowl games and everything else, it will be over $50 millions. Not to mention that the TV money doesn't include tier 3 TV deals.
For example, in 2021, TV money for the big 12 was $220 millions but they ended up distributing over $42 millions to each school.
In 2021 UCF got $8 millions. Next year the new Big 12 schools will get $18 millions, $19 in 2024 and full shares in 2025. To go from $8 millions to over $50 millions in 4 years is just insane.

[UCFJayBird]

No one have mention the new TV contract.
To go from less than $10 millions per yr to over $50 millions in 2025 is insane.
UCF have really made it to the big dance. In 2025, chances are UCF will bring in more than Miami or FSU. That's just absurd. The ACC really really signed a bad TV contract.

BTW, I think losing to ECU the previous week was a blessing in disguise.
The FACT is that UCF had to beat Cinci for any chance to win the conference and a NY6 berth. UCF just have to win out and they will get a NY6 berth.
Had UCF beat ECU the previous week, this would have been an ESPN marque matchup and maybe Cincinnati would have been gunning for this game more.

hmmm, the quick google search the other day made it sounds like if Big 12 teams finalize the deal in the works teams would get around 31-32 million in tv money. $50 million was what I was seeing for the SEC. Either way, an extra ~20million is a huge boost for the program

Yeah $32 millions is just TV money. If you add in playoffs, bowl games and everything else, it will be over $50 millions. Not to mention that the TV money doesn't include tier 3 TV deals.
For example, in 2021, TV money for the big 12 was $220 millions but they ended up distributing over $42 millions to each school.
In 2021 UCF got $8 millions. Next year the new Big 12 schools will get $18 millions, $19 in 2024 and full shares in 2025. To go from $8 millions to over $50 millions in 4 years is just insane.

Huge deal. Monumental game changer for the program. Big 12 revenue was will be 3rd behind the Big Ten and SEC. I believe I also read the deal will grow with team expansion as well, so some PAC-12 teams decide to jump ship the deal will grow to correspond with it, which removes one of the typical sticking points in expansion talks (wanting to wait until a new tv deal is coming up).

That ACC deal is laughably bad.

[Optimus_Steel]

Not to be party pooper but is any of this new revenue going to be used to lower tuition for UCF students or scholarships for people not in athletics?

[golfreak]

Not to be party pooper but is any of this new revenue going to be used to lower tuition for UCF students or scholarships for people not in athletics?

Way to kill the excitement but I do agree that tuition is out of control.
I went to UCF way back in the days when it was cheap.
My wife graduated from UCF in 2019 and even then it wasn't bad although it helped that she spent 2 yrs at VCC before transferring.
A quick check state that students are charged $14.32 per hour. That's about $430 per yr(30 credit hrs).
This is still fairly cheap compare to other schools charging upward $2000+ per yr for athletics.
Maybe UCF will do what UF does. They only charge $1.90 per credit hr for athletics. FSU $7.90.
But to your concerns rising tuition costs for UCF aren't really due to athletic expenses. Even if they made athletic fees ZERO, it will only lower you tuition fees ~$430/yr for UCF.
I mean UCF charges $212 per credit. A 30 credit hr yr would go from $4360 to $3930.

[UCF]

Florida tuition rates are substantially less than anywhere else I’ve lived. Athletics owes money to the general university fund and they would likely get paid back first before removing any fees.

[golfreak]

Great road win by UCF today.
A few bottom top 25 teams lost this weekend so UCF should move up.
Just need to win out and they will get the NY6 spot.

[Knightro]

Great road win by UCF today.
A few bottom top 25 teams lost this weekend so UCF should move up.
Just need to win out and they will get the NY6 spot.

Bingo.

It’s all right in front of them.

If they win on Saturday they’re almost certainly hosting the AAC championship game.

[golfreak]

Great road win by UCF today.
A few bottom top 25 teams lost this weekend so UCF should move up.
Just need to win out and they will get the NY6 spot.

Bingo.

It’s all right in front of them.

If they win on Saturday they’re almost certainly hosting the AAC championship game.

YUP. They got Navy and USF left after Tulane and they won't lose either one of those 2 games.
If they can somehow beat Tulane, they will host either Tulane/Cin(who ever win that game) at HOME.

[Ducklett]

Tragic UF fan on the outside looking in. Does UCF have a shot at winning the conference or is Tulane too good?

[UCF]

Tulane might prove to be the hardest game of the season imo. If we win out, we play for the AAC championship and likely a NY6 bowl.

In other news, the directionally challenged school fired yet another coach. Was kind of hoping they’d keep him until we played.

[golfreak]

Tulane might prove to be the hardest game of the season imo. If we win out, we play for the AAC championship and likely a NY6 bowl.

In other news, the directionally challenged school fired yet another coach. Was kind of hoping they’d keep him until we played.

If UCF wins out, they are guaranteed a NY6 berth.
They are already ahead of Liberty in the all important playoff top 25 poll and if they bet Tulane and then Tulane/Cin, it's pretty much a conclusion. It's the top G5 in the playoff poll that makes the NY6.

[tiderulz]

Not to be party pooper but is any of this new revenue going to be used to lower tuition for UCF students or scholarships for people not in athletics?

nope. Bama makes huge $$$, and tuition prices never getting lowered. that also being said, it cost a lot of money to run an athletic program (facilities, staff and a lot of athletic scholarships). them getting that revenue means they dont have to go to the general college funds for money to run that department.

[UCFJayBird]

Tulane might prove to be the hardest game of the season imo. If we win out, we play for the AAC championship and likely a NY6 bowl.

In other news, the directionally challenged school fired yet another coach. Was kind of hoping they’d keep him until we played.

If UCF wins out, they are guaranteed a NY6 berth.
They are already ahead of Liberty in the all important playoff top 25 poll and if they bet Tulane and then Tulane/Cin, it's pretty much a conclusion. It's the top G5 in the playoff poll that makes the NY6.

I also don't think Liberty is eligible for the auto-bid since they're Independent. I believe the NY6 spot goes to the highest ranked G5 champion, which looks like it's going to be the AAC team barring some true chaos.

As for the game, unfortunately I was on the road to see a show in Tampa so I had to listen in on the radio for the first half and follow online the second. Honestly when Memphis tied it up in the 3rd, I did not feel great and thought we were going to blow it, lol. Maybe I would've felt different watching, but my confidence in the defense was pretty low. They're really struggling on the road. Hopefully they tune it up and come ready for Tulane, as it should be a tough matchup for sure.

Still kind of surprised (but not really) that Game Day chose a second visit to Austin instead of going to New Orleans for the first time ever. I wonder if there was some logistical issues or something.

[golfreak]

Tulane might prove to be the hardest game of the season imo. If we win out, we play for the AAC championship and likely a NY6 bowl.

In other news, the directionally challenged school fired yet another coach. Was kind of hoping they’d keep him until we played.

If UCF wins out, they are guaranteed a NY6 berth.
They are already ahead of Liberty in the all important playoff top 25 poll and if they bet Tulane and then Tulane/Cin, it's pretty much a conclusion. It's the top G5 in the playoff poll that makes the NY6.

I also don't think Liberty is eligible for the auto-bid since they're Independent. I believe the NY6 spot goes to the highest ranked G5 champion, which looks like it's going to be the AAC team barring some true chaos.

As for the game, unfortunately I was on the road to see a show in Tampa so I had to listen in on the radio for the first half and follow online the second. Honestly when Memphis tied it up in the 3rd, I did not feel great and thought we were going to blow it, lol. Maybe I would've felt different watching, but my confidence in the defense was pretty low. They're really struggling on the road. Hopefully they tune it up and come ready for Tulane, as it should be a tough matchup for sure.

Still kind of surprised (but not really) that Game Day chose a second visit to Austin instead of going to New Orleans for the first time ever. I wonder if there was some logistical issues or something.

You are correct. Didn't realize Liberty is an Independent.
Well, no need to worry about anything else. Win out and there is no one else in the way.

[golfreak]

Let me also add that even of UCF loses to Tulane, they still have a pretty good chance at the AAC Championship game.
Here's the scenario.
- If UCF loses to Tulane.
- Tulane need to also beat Cin. With 2 losses each UCF has the tie breaker.
- ECU can beat UCF in a tie breaker but they still have to play Cin and Houston.
- Houston can win out and only have 2 conference losses but UCF would have a better record and hence a better ranking which is the tie breaker if they don't face head to head.
There you go but if UCF loses to Tulane and then win the AAC Championship, it's 3 losses so don't know about NY6 berth.

[Trailbreaker]

Let me also add that even of UCF loses to Tulane, they still have a pretty good chance at the AAC Championship game.
Here's the scenario.
- If UCF loses to Tulane.
- Tulane need to also beat Cin. With 2 losses each UCF has the tie breaker.
- ECU can beat UCF in a tie breaker but they still have to play Cin and Houston.
- Houston can win out and only have 2 conference losses but UCF would have a better record and hence a better ranking which is the tie breaker if they don't face head to head.
There you go but if UCF loses to Tulane and then win the AAC Championship, it's 3 losses so don't know about NY6 berth.

Man, we really should've won that game against Louisville. Oh well.