Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!!

[Knightro]

I would trade Augustin right now to get Horton-Tucker.

No interest in just Cook and a 2nd.

Give me Cook and THT and you have a deal.

Cook, Cousins, THT for DJ

Done. Call it in to the league.

I’m a big THT fan.

[nzahir]

I have heard that GMs do look around online a bit, but I wish there was a legit way to reach them easier

[Knightro]

why THT?

I admit I’m probably higher on him than most people.

Right off the bat, he’s a full year young for his class. He began last season at just 17 years old, yet he was very assertive offensively. I liked his willingness to take deep 3's in college even though he's wasn’t really skilled enough yet to consistently make them at a high level. The part that intrigued me the most was his passing. He was so young that there were plenty of growing pains, but I saw some possible point forward potential.

Defensively he’s another long boi. 6'4" with a 7'1" wingspan. Thought his rebound/steal/block numbers were very solid for a wing, which is ultimately what I think he’s going to have to be in the pros. Way too much gambling defensively and frankly he was a little pudgy. If he can maximize his body over the next couple of years, I think he could get a quicker and possibly be a plus defender.

I don’t know, maybe I’m way off. I just see a young puppy with big paws and if he grows into those paws, you might really have something. Time is definitely on his side.

[fendilim]

AG is having a disappointing season because for some reason his focus is not primarily on the things he does really well. I'm all for working on and expanding your game, but your bread and butter should always be what you are naturally good at. I don't know whether to blame AG or the coaching.

Definitely on Aaron. There was an article last 2018 regarding Aaron's Free Agency which mentioned that Aaron likes to play more than his role which led to the management's disappointment.

The Pacers may force Orlando's hand with a $20 million-ish offer sheet for Gordon, according to Wojnarowski, betting that Orlando may decline to match after selecting Jonathan Isaacand Mo Bamba in back-to-back drafts. (Indiana can carve out about $20 million in room even with Thaddeus Young, Darren Collison, and Bojan Bogdanovic on the books. Young exercised his player option for next season, per Wojnarowski; Bogdanovic and Collison are on mostly nonguaranteed deals.)

There has been mild discontent for years within the Magic about Gordon's unwillingness to accept a smaller role on offense, and his ambitions of being a ball-dominant star. But Gordon could develop into a Swiss Army knife-style secondary star. This would be a worthwhile play for the Pacers. If their offer sheet lands at about $20 million, I'd bet on the Magic to match, but it's not a bet I'd feel super-confident about.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23938913/zach-lowe-nba-free-agency-preview-lebron-james-paul-george-kawhi-leonard

[Xatticus]

why THT?

I admit I’m probably higher on him than most people.

Right off the bat, he’s a full year young for his class. He began last season at just 17 years old, yet he was very assertive offensively. I liked his willingness to take deep 3's in college even though he's wasn’t really skilled enough yet to consistently make them at a high level. The part that intrigued me the most was his passing. He was so young that there were plenty of growing pains, but I saw some possible point forward potential.

Defensively he’s another long boi. 6'4" with a 7'1" wingspan. Thought his rebound/steal/block numbers were very solid for a wing, which is ultimately what I think he’s going to have to be in the pros. Way too much gambling defensively and frankly he was a little pudgy. If he can maximize his body over the next couple of years, I think he could get a quicker and possibly be a plus defender.

I don’t know, maybe I’m way off. I just see a young puppy with big paws and if he grows into those paws, you might really have something. Time is definitely on his side.

Calling him a little pudgy is being kind. What hurts him is that he graded out as a poor athlete at the combine and he can't shoot. He is pretty short for an NBA wing, but he has length and strength to switch and defend up a couple positions. There is some skill there, but it's pretty tough to think of anyone with his profile that had success at the NBA level.

[tiderulz]

AG is having a disappointing season because for some reason his focus is not primarily on the things he does really well. I'm all for working on and expanding your game, but your bread and butter should always be what you are naturally good at. I don't know whether to blame AG or the coaching.

Definitely on Aaron. There was an article last 2018 regarding Aaron's Free Agency which mentioned that Aaron likes to play more than his role which led to the management's disappointment.

The Pacers may force Orlando's hand with a $20 million-ish offer sheet for Gordon, according to Wojnarowski, betting that Orlando may decline to match after selecting Jonathan Isaacand Mo Bamba in back-to-back drafts. (Indiana can carve out about $20 million in room even with Thaddeus Young, Darren Collison, and Bojan Bogdanovic on the books. Young exercised his player option for next season, per Wojnarowski; Bogdanovic and Collison are on mostly nonguaranteed deals.)

There has been mild discontent for years within the Magic about Gordon's unwillingness to accept a smaller role on offense, and his ambitions of being a ball-dominant star. But Gordon could develop into a Swiss Army knife-style secondary star. This would be a worthwhile play for the Pacers. If their offer sheet lands at about $20 million, I'd bet on the Magic to match, but it's not a bet I'd feel super-confident about.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23938913/zach-lowe-nba-free-agency-preview-lebron-james-paul-george-kawhi-leonard

if that is even a thought, Orlando needs to trade him to get value back

[pepe1991]

on start of a season my prediction was that Gordon will ask for a trade this year.
From what we seen, it's just matter of moment, if it didn't already happen.

[cedric76]

on start of a season my prediction was that Gordon will ask for a trade this year.
From what we have seen, it's just a matter of moment, if it didn't already happen.

Might be the 1st time i agree with Pepe

Gordon wasnt drafted by Weham, JI, chuma and wes were

Gordon could be so good if he stick to what he is great at, reminds me of D12 when he was trying to play out of his role

Gordon will force his way out to California

Gordon+DJ for DLO and Chriss makes too much sense, DLO isnt a good defender but he has all the tools to become one, i m sure cliff could turn him into an above-average defender

A Fultz,DLO and Evan (MCW to a lesser extent) guard rotation would be great

[j-ragg]

Gordon will force his way out to California

You're consistent I'll give ya that.

[Knightro]

Calling him a little pudgy is being kind. What hurts him is that he graded out as a poor athlete at the combine and he can't shoot. He is pretty short for an NBA wing, but he has length and strength to switch and defend up a couple positions. There is some skill there, but it's pretty tough to think of anyone with his profile that had success at the NBA level.

Fair points.

I readily admit he needs to overhaul his body. I think that would help his athleticism and quickness quite a bit moving forward.

He’s 11-31 from three so far in the G-League in 5 games. Will be interesting to monitor how his jumper develops. He’s still just 18 years old for a couple of more days!

[PrimeThyme]

I just think it's funny how according to this board AG is this underperforming average player, yet somehow he is going to have the power to force his way out of Orlando.

[OrlandO]

Gordon will force his way out to California

You're consistent I'll give ya that.

He's not a star so he probably won't be forcing his way anywhere soon, but I think he'll bolt to the west when he's an unrestricted free agent regardless of how he develops. When he re-signed as a restricted free agent he implied he had no choice as if he's some hostage and we all know he loves the west coast/celeb life. I would not let AG see his contract year in Orlando.... not with him being unrestricted and after he admitted he put individual goals ahead of team goals last time.

[pepe1991]

I just think it's funny how according to this board AG is this underperforming average player, yet somehow he is going to have the power to force his way out of Orlando.

It's not that hard.
You demand a trade and team will look to move you just to remove negative attitude and potentially toxic behavior in locker room.

Eric Bledsoe got traded because of a tweet.
One of Morris twins pushed his way out of Suns.
Everybody can do it. Maybe not rookie scale contracts, but everybody else.

[Def Swami]

He'll bolt to a team with a real starting point guard and play on a roster with more than three 3 point shooters, and finally excel in his role.

[PrimeThyme]

It's not that hard.
You demand a trade and team will look to move you just to remove negative attitude and potentially toxic behavior in locker room.
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It's comical to think that he would. AG has no leverage and he is not a star player. He has been nothing but a model player for this organization and has never once expressed that he doesn't want to be here. You guys just need to get over it. This FO sees him as a longterm piece of this team even if posters here don't want him to be.

[pepe1991]

It's not that hard.
You demand a trade and team will look to move you just to remove negative attitude and potentially toxic behavior in locker room.
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It's comical to think that he would. AG has no leverage and he is not a star player. He has been nothing but a model player for this organization and has never once expressed that he doesn't want to be here. You guys just need to get over it. This FO sees him as a longterm piece of this team even if posters here don't want him to be.

One little this was enough for bledsoe to get moved.

His contract was built so he can be moved sooner or later. To me it's just matter of time when he will be moved. During this season, during offseason or in mid of next season. I just can't see scenario where he plays last year of his contract here.

btw i don't "push" anything here, that's just my opinion. He also plays worst than last year and his counting stats are on decline for two years.

[cedric76]

Gordon will force his way out to California

You're consistent I'll give ya that.

I was consistent with fultz too

[PrimeThyme]

One little this was enough for bledsoe to get moved.

Phoenix was a perennial tanking dumpster fire. You can't even compare the two situations.

[pepe1991]

One little this was enough for bledsoe to get moved.

Phoenix was a perennial tanking dumpster fire. You can't even compare the two situations.

Imo lot of players ask for trades, but they don't let it go in public. I mean, Davis requested trade and got fined for it. It's not really allowed.

[OrlandO]

He'll bolt to a team with a real starting point guard and play on a roster with more than three 3 point shooters, and finally excel in his role.

There is a role for him to excel in here... he just doesn't want it.