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Official Spec Thread: Regular Season

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1841 » by basketballRob » Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:45 am

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1842 » by SOUL » Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:46 am

So much whining when Mose has the bench in though...
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1843 » by eyriq » Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:48 am

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1844 » by eyriq » Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:50 am

SOUL wrote:So much whining when Mose has the bench in though...
In fairness, they are qualifying starting lineups as four starters, not necessarily lineups with Paolo and Franz in them. I think our annoyance comes when one of Paolo and Franz aren't in the game for extended periods of time.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1845 » by thelead » Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:54 am

I dunno about that tweet... Porzingis/Horford/Tatum/Brown/Pritchard is considered a 'bench' lineup according to that graph... And so many teams have tighter rotations, etc. Not to take away from our placement there, just pointing out that there's a wide variance of what a 'bench lineup' is depending on the team, how many players they actually play (Cleveland is playing an 8 man rotation this early into the season :lol: ), and how many minutes starters play on other teams (many teams play their starters longer than ours from what I've seen).
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1846 » by basketballRob » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:06 am

I don't feel good about the b2b after we practiced today.

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1847 » by RookieStar » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:22 am

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eyriq wrote:Wolves and Celtics are next level defenses. Wow.


Never thought HOU would be there after that 1st game with them. They must have clicked after that.


With Sengun at center too.

FVV and Brooks are both still very hard nosed defenders, despite what some people will tell you about Fred around here.


Well... maybe we really are good to be able to do that? Lol
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1850 » by drsd » Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:44 am

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Orlando and GSW with below average starting fives and near elite benches.

p.s. Boston with the best starting five AND the 6th best bench. Hmm.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1851 » by Skybox » Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:30 pm

Have to say that I’m enjoying PHI looking better off after surviving another Harden pout-fest.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1852 » by JBSouthpaw » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:43 pm

Skybox wrote:Have to say that I’m enjoying PHI looking better off after surviving another Harden pout-fest.


not sure why teams go for him?
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1853 » by basketballRob » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:33 pm

I was just thinking that when Wendell plays him and Banchero are close to the same type of players and fill the same spots on the court. That's another reason why a player like Goga works better.

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1854 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:53 pm

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Skybox wrote:Have to say that I’m enjoying PHI looking better off after surviving another Harden pout-fest.


not sure why teams go for him?
5 years ago yes, last couple of years teams should stay away from him. Such an unlikeable player on the court and off the court.

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1855 » by Bakomagic » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:41 pm

basketballRob wrote:I was just thinking that when Wendell plays him and Banchero are close to the same type of players and fill the same spots on the court. That's another reason why a player like Goga works better.

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I said this last year, they best operate in a similar fashion, facing up, taking bigger players off the dribble or backing down smaller players, with the ability to playmake in the mid post.

WCjr is a good player on a great contract, but we may be best off looking to move him for a better fit(Rich Mans Goga) and asset. It’s not like we will be able to pay him when Franz and Paolo are due anyway.

Something like Fultz, WCjr for Gafford, Kispert, Tyus Jones?
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1856 » by eyriq » Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:58 pm

Going on record that I expect most of Fultz, Harris, WCJ, and Isaac to be off the team no later than this off-season. I think availability is a more immediate need than shooting, but we can kill two birds with one stone by replacing these players. Suggs staying healthy is critical as he finishes out his rookie contract.

Edit: WCJ has such a great contract that I'd not blink at us keeping him, but had to include him in the injury prone group.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1857 » by ogmagicfan » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:17 pm

I think we need to get a look at WCJ in the lineup with no Fultz and see how he performs. I'd assume he'd be better offensively

My big thing with WCJ that I won't stop pushing for is the fact that he need to lose weight, to allow him to run the court more effectively, to give him more vertical explosiveness, and to lessen his injury risk. Atleast 10-15 pounds, if not more (I feel like his playing weight is more than the recorded 270 lbs)
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1858 » by bigdogdylan5 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:22 pm

https://youtu.be/PYPfoKQVpTQ?si=2pXhUL6RWJKFsgOg
End of this has some of the most intelligent magic talk I have heard from a national perspective in a while. Really feels like they watched some of our games and aren’t just shooting from the hip and box scores. They hit the nail on the head about our offense and how we start to faulter in second half’s. Kinda makes me think that the most important player on our roster outside of Paolo and Franz is Jett Howard. I think they are doing the correct thing bringing him on slowly and forcing him to earn minutes by getting better defensively. The status quo will take us to playin but the next level up. Fultz Suggs and Black are not it. Two of those are fine but we need that shooter or two to help close games and give Paolo and Franz more space in the 4th quarter.

Edit: Also I think JJ isn’t really joking when he said the first thing he said and is 100% right about espn
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1859 » by Skybox » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:00 pm

bigdogdylan5 wrote:https://youtu.be/PYPfoKQVpTQ?si=2pXhUL6RWJKFsgOg
End of this has some of the most intelligent magic talk I have heard from a national perspective in a while. Really feels like they watched some of our games and aren’t just shooting from the hip and box scores. They hit the nail on the head about our offense and how we start to faulter in second half’s. Kinda makes me think that the most important player on our roster outside of Paolo and Franz is Jett Howard. I think they are doing the correct thing bringing him on slowly and forcing him to earn minutes by getting better defensively. The status quo will take us to playin but the next level up. Fultz Suggs and Black are not it. Two of those are fine but we need that shooter or two to help close games and give Paolo and Franz more space in the 4th quarter.

Edit: Also I think JJ isn’t really joking when he said the first thing he said and is 100% right about espn


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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1860 » by eyriq » Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:52 pm

bigdogdylan5 wrote:https://youtu.be/PYPfoKQVpTQ?si=2pXhUL6RWJKFsgOg
End of this has some of the most intelligent magic talk I have heard from a national perspective in a while. Really feels like they watched some of our games and aren’t just shooting from the hip and box scores. They hit the nail on the head about our offense and how we start to faulter in second half’s. Kinda makes me think that the most important player on our roster outside of Paolo and Franz is Jett Howard. I think they are doing the correct thing bringing him on slowly and forcing him to earn minutes by getting better defensively. The status quo will take us to playin but the next level up. Fultz Suggs and Black are not it. Two of those are fine but we need that shooter or two to help close games and give Paolo and Franz more space in the 4th quarter.

Edit: Also I think JJ isn’t really joking when he said the first thing he said and is 100% right about espn


"Franz, I don't think you can single cover him". LOVE IT

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