Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XIX: Rise of the BIG

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Probably because he sucks... 0 points the last two games. Ntilikina and Grant are now tied in games with 0 points at 5 each.

Kinda hard to score when you’ve played a combined 20 minutes in the last 3 games. Maybe that has something to do with it.

More like kind of hard to score when you suck at scoring. He shot 29% in November. He's a below average scorer... this isn't news. And I don't know what you're looking at, but I'm talking about his 30 combined minutes over 2 games. 0 points. Same amount he scored in 22 minutes against us. Same amount he scored tonight in a DNP. Same amount as you and I scored in the NBA. Zero.

Who would you rather have long term? Simmons or Frank. If that’s the trade.

[OrlandO]

Kinda hard to score when you’ve played a combined 20 minutes in the last 3 games. Maybe that has something to do with it.

More like kind of hard to score when you suck at scoring. He shot 29% in November. He's a below average scorer... this isn't news. And I don't know what you're looking at, but I'm talking about his 30 combined minutes over 2 games. 0 points. Same amount he scored in 22 minutes against us. Same amount he scored tonight in a DNP. Same amount as you and I scored in the NBA. Zero.

Who would you rather have long term? Simmons or Frank. If that’s the trade.

Neither. We let Simmons go this summer. Like I said before Frank is a waste of time... he needs more years to develop than we would spend on him.... and the end result is likely an average player or out of the league. We'd be better off taking a look at him in 3 or 4 years after he's bounced around a couple more teams.

[drsd]

We let Simmons go this summer.

Simmons came on a cap-requiring 2 year 10-year deal.

But yes: he is gone.



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[drsd]

There are five players averaging 20points 10rebounds.

Vučević is an All-Star this year.


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[Magic_Johnny12]

There are five players averaging 20points 10rebounds.

Vučević is an All-Star this year.


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He deserves it and literally couldn't be better timing for him.

"Insert IT brinks truck quote here"

[Blue_and_Whte]

Honestly I hope we can keep Nik and Ross while Bamba works on his game.

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Honestly I hope we can keep Nik and Ross while Bamba works on his game.

Do you think Vuc would even want to take a 1-2 year team friendly deal with Orlando? The man is going to want to be paid if he isn’t on a contender at this point in his career.

[I Rasharted]

Honestly I hope we can keep Nik and Ross while Bamba works on his game.

Do you think Vuc would even want to take a 1-2 year team friendly deal with Orlando? The man is going to want to be paid if he isn’t on a contender at this point in his career.

[PrimeThyme]

Honestly I hope we can keep Nik and Ross while Bamba works on his game.

Spoiler:

[Orl_Magic]

Vooch was always solid on offense. I think the team has figured out Vooch can make it rain and he deserves all the extra touches. He is our all-star and with J-I on the court Vooch's defense seems to be good enough.

[Rayshard7]

I want the Magic to draft Ja Morant, Darius Garland or Kevin Porter Jr. than I want us to draft a PF or shooter with the Cleveland and Bkn 2nd. Also, if we can sign Dinwiddie and trade for Fultz that would be amazing offseason imo.

[BadMofoPimp]

There are five players averaging 20points 10rebounds.

Vučević is an All-Star this year.


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He deserves it and literally couldn't be better timing for him.

"Insert IT brinks truck quote here"

Vooch provin em all wrong!!!!

[shadrock]

There is a big difference between Vuc playing well on defense, and Vuc being a good defender. Basically, because of his defensive deficiencies, we are only asking him to do a very limited set of things. He is doing those limited tasks well. If we had a really good defender in his spot, the tasks would be far greater and would likely result in less pts for the opponents. Just felt this needed to be cleared up as there have been a lot of people saying Vuc is a really good defender this year, which is just not true. Hes just playing his limited role in this defense well. That limited role involves him prioritizing protecting the rim and sagging back very deep on PnR's. A better defender would be able to pressure up on the ball in the PnR and then recover fast enough to also defend the rim. There are plenty of other examples i could give but you get the point.

Credit to Clifford to finding a way to make him not a total disaster for us at that end.

[CPBalla2003 n da 863]

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Some Twitter Speculation involving AD, Lonzo and Vooch.

[bargnanimvp]

There is a big difference between Vuc playing well on defense, and Vuc being a good defender. Basically, because of his defensive deficiencies, we are only asking him to do a very limited set of things. He is doing those limited tasks well. If we had a really good defender in his spot, the tasks would be far greater and would likely result in less pts for the opponents. Just felt this needed to be cleared up as there have been a lot of people saying Vuc is a really good defender this year, which is just not true. Hes just playing his limited role in this defense well. That limited role involves him prioritizing protecting the rim and sagging back very deep on PnR's. A better defender would be able to pressure up on the ball in the PnR and then recover fast enough to also defend the rim. There are plenty of other examples i could give but you get the point.

Credit to Clifford to finding a way to make him not a total disaster for us at that end.

Not everyone will be a great defender though, the key is finding pieces that fit together and compliment each other.

[bargnanimvp]

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Some Twitter Speculation involving AD, Lonzo and Vooch.

I'd rather max DJ than trade for Lonzo

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Some Twitter Speculation involving AD, Lonzo and Vooch.

So we wind up with Lonzo for Vuc and AD goes to LA? What else is LA giving up? Because that’s not nearly enough for someone like AD. Lonzo solves zero issues for Orlando offensively.

[Magic_Johnny12]

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Some Twitter Speculation involving AD, Lonzo and Vooch.

So we wind up with Lonzo for Vuc and AD goes to LA? What else is LA giving up? Because that’s not nearly enough for someone like AD. Lonzo solves zero issues for Orlando offensively.

Proposed trade was something like

LA Outgoing

-Lonzo
-KCP
-Ingram
-Multiple picks

LA Incoming

-Payton
-Davis

Orlando Outgoing

-Vuc
-Filler (could be Augustine)

Orlando Incoming

-Lonzo
-KCP (expiring)
-SRP (possibly from NOP)

NOP Outgoing
-Davis
-EP

NOP Incoming
- Vucevic
- Ingram
- Multiple FRP via Lakers

Seems low for Davis if you ask me.

[woosah]

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Some Twitter Speculation involving AD, Lonzo and Vooch.

So we wind up with Lonzo for Vuc and AD goes to LA? What else is LA giving up? Because that’s not nearly enough for someone like AD. Lonzo solves zero issues for Orlando offensively.

Proposed trade was something like

LA Outgoing

-Lonzo
-KCP
-Ingram
-Multiple picks

LA Incoming

-Payton
-Davis

Orlando Outgoing

-Vuc
-Filler (could be Augustine)

Orlando Incoming

-Lonzo
-KCP (expiring)
-SRP (possibly from NOP)

NOP Outgoing
-Davis
-EP

NOP Incoming
- Vucevic
- Ingram
- Multiple FRP via Lakers

Seems low for Davis if you ask me.

lol. it's twitter. someone is dreaming and NOLA isn't dealing.

[Magic_Johnny12]

So we wind up with Lonzo for Vuc and AD goes to LA? What else is LA giving up? Because that’s not nearly enough for someone like AD. Lonzo solves zero issues for Orlando offensively.

Proposed trade was something like

LA Outgoing

-Lonzo
-KCP
-Ingram
-Multiple picks

LA Incoming

-Payton
-Davis

Orlando Outgoing

-Vuc
-Filler (could be Augustine)

Orlando Incoming

-Lonzo
-KCP (expiring)
-SRP (possibly from NOP)

NOP Outgoing
-Davis
-EP

NOP Incoming
- Vucevic
- Ingram
- Multiple FRP via Lakers

Seems low for Davis if you ask me.

lol. it's twitter. someone is dreaming and NOLA isn't dealing.

Apparently this dude has close ties to Lebron and was one of the first people to leak/break the LeBron to LA move. Interesting none the less.

With all things considered if that were to happen I would be mad for a few days because that means no playoffs and we’re back to tanking, but would understand the move. As much as I love winning we’re nowhere close to contending and if managment has no intentions in resigning Vucevic then I guess trading him to the highest bidder makes sense. Ball comes with his warts, but he could blossom with no pressure here in Orlando with our core and Clifford.