Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 I: Big decisions on the horizon

[j-ragg]

Weltman somehow got a couple votes for executive of the year. Do Weltman+Hammond both get to vote on it?

[Nyce_1]

I am trying to get an answer on this. I saw Robbins did an athletic article about our cap room but I don’t have subscription to athletic. To max out Brogdan do we have to release cap holds of Vuc Ross and stretch Mozgov?

Yes.

[j-ragg]

I am trying to get an answer on this. I saw Robbins did an athletic article about our cap room but I don’t have subscription to athletic. To max out Brogdan do we have to release cap holds of Vuc Ross and stretch Mozgov?

I’d be shocked if you needed to max Brogdon to get him.

[SD2042]

I am trying to get an answer on this. I saw Robbins did an athletic article about our cap room but I don’t have subscription to athletic. To max out Brogdan do we have to release cap holds of Vuc Ross and stretch Mozgov?

I’d be shocked if you needed to max Brogdon to get him.

No max is needed to acquired Brogdan. He's solid for what he's brought to the court and all. The guy isn't a superstar level talent. He's more of a borderline starter/bench player at best.

[SD2042]

It depends on a few factors. Russell’s original list was Utah, Minnesota, Indiana, and Orlando. Utah is out of play because of Conley, Minnesota has to clear cap space, and Indiana could possibly be in play even though they have Collison and Joseph in the back court. Orlando still gives him the most opportunity.

Russell has a 6'10 wingspan so he's a potential target...



But there are several suitors for him and I don't we're giving up on Fultz yet. I can see us targeting Brogdon though since he's not a full time PG.

I would say he ends up in NY or BRK... where ever Kyrie doesn't go. DLo loves NYC. Other candidates... PHX, LA, DAL, BOS...

I don’t believe Fultz is factoring into any of these conversations, nor should he.

Actually Indiana still qualifies as they have plenty of cap space left over including the addition of T.J. Warren from the draft trade on last week.

Key note: Darren Collison has a team option that's only guaranteed for two million. I'm expect the Pacers to exercise the option. CoJo will be a free agent as well.


http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=9079652105d121cddceb60182316564

[bigdogdylan5]

I am trying to get an answer on this. I saw Robbins did an athletic article about our cap room but I don’t have subscription to athletic. To max out Brogdan do we have to release cap holds of Vuc Ross and stretch Mozgov?

I’d be shocked if you needed to max Brogdon to get him.

No max is needed to acquired Brogdan. He's solid for what he's brought to the court and all. The guy isn't a superstar level talent. He's more of a borderline starter/bench player at best.

I would max him damn he is a 40-50-90 guy. How many of those are there in the league? Seems like a perfect fit for this team with his flexibility. I mean D-Lo is good I guess but his efficiency numbers are not great but the prevailing wisdom is he is getting a max?

[PrimeThyme]

Weltman somehow got a couple votes for executive of the year. Do Weltman+Hammond both get to vote on it?

In that case, did Rob get some votes too? Basically made it with his core of players.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Weltman somehow got a couple votes for executive of the year. Do Weltman+Hammond both get to vote on it?

I don’t see why they shouldn’t have. We had a pretty sizable improvement in the win column

Weltman somehow got a couple votes for executive of the year. Do Weltman+Hammond both get to vote on it?

In that case, did Rob get some votes too? Basically made it with his core of players.

They hired the right coach, and judging by this board fans generally like the picks they’ve made.

[j-ragg]

Weltman somehow got a couple votes for executive of the year. Do Weltman+Hammond both get to vote on it?

I don’t see why they shouldn’t have. We had a pretty sizable improvement in the swim column

Weltman somehow got a couple votes for executive of the year. Do Weltman+Hammond both get to vote on it?

In that case, did Rob get some votes too? Basically made it with his core of players.

They hired the right coach, and judging by this board fans generally like the picks they’ve made.

Yeah it’s just no one they’ve acquired has really been a difference maker besides Clifford.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Weltman somehow got a couple votes for executive of the year. Do Weltman+Hammond both get to vote on it?

I don’t see why they shouldn’t have. We had a pretty sizable improvement in the swim column

In that case, did Rob get some votes too? Basically made it with his core of players.

They hired the right coach, and judging by this board fans generally like the picks they’ve made.

Yeah it’s just no one they’ve acquired has really been a difference maker besides Clifford.

Yeah, they don’t deserve more than a couple votes. We’ll have to wait until mo and JI continue to come into their own. If Fultz pans out and we make another post season they definitely deserve some votes next season.

I don’t know if Cliff got some votes but he was pretty deserving of a couple.

[tiderulz]

I am trying to get an answer on this. I saw Robbins did an athletic article about our cap room but I don’t have subscription to athletic. To max out Brogdan do we have to release cap holds of Vuc Ross and stretch Mozgov?

I’d be shocked if you needed to max Brogdon to get him.

No max is needed to acquired Brogdan. He's solid for what he's brought to the court and all. The guy isn't a superstar level talent. He's more of a borderline starter/bench player at best.

huh? borderline starter at best? i may not see star, but he is definitely good enough to be a legit starter

[yoyojw17]

I don’t see why they shouldn’t have. We had a pretty sizable improvement in the swim column


They hired the right coach, and judging by this board fans generally like the picks they’ve made.

Yeah it’s just no one they’ve acquired has really been a difference maker besides Clifford.

Yeah, they don’t deserve more than a couple votes. We’ll have to wait until mo and JI continue to come into their own. If Fultz pans out and we make another post season they definitely deserve some votes next season.

I don’t know if Cliff got some votes but he was pretty deserving of a couple.

They made plays for setting up the future and the team has made strides underneath their guidance. so yeah... i can see how a few votes slip right on in. If they real contenders then i would go "hmmmmm?" Hope that will be this upcoming ear. haha

[yoyojw17]

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[SD2042]

I’d be shocked if you needed to max Brogdon to get him.

No max is needed to acquired Brogdan. He's solid for what he's brought to the court and all. The guy isn't a superstar level talent. He's more of a borderline starter/bench player at best.

I would max him damn he is a 40-50-90 guy. How many of those are there in the league? Seems like a perfect fit for this team with his flexibility. I mean D-Lo is good I guess but his efficiency numbers are not great but the prevailing wisdom is he is getting a max?

DLo will likely get a max deal due to his improve play this year plus making the All Star Reserves this year. That being said, his numbers do not scream dynamic consistency. The NBA is all about the Euro style of play where they value offense over defense. An argument I still despise.

Anyways, in comparison to Brogdan, Brogdan is the more consistent player according to his stats. Although he's been very efficient during his short career, I can't say he'll command the max in spite of his play. He will get his pay day. That's for sure. A max could be a reach right now.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

No max is needed to acquired Brogdan. He's solid for what he's brought to the court and all. The guy isn't a superstar level talent. He's more of a borderline starter/bench player at best.

I would max him damn he is a 40-50-90 guy. How many of those are there in the league? Seems like a perfect fit for this team with his flexibility. I mean D-Lo is good I guess but his efficiency numbers are not great but the prevailing wisdom is he is getting a max?

DLo will likely get a max deal due to his improve play this year plus making the All Star Reserves this year. That being said, his numbers do not scream dynamic consistency. The NBA is all about the Euro style of play where they value offense over defense. An argument I still despise.

Anyways, in comparison to Brogdan, Brogdan is the more consistent player according to his stats. Although he's been very efficient during his short career, I can't say he'll command the max in spite of his play. He will get his pay day. That's for sure. A max could be a reach right now.

Brogdon gets the benefit of playing with Giannis, that has to account for a little.

I’d take either of them but really would be interested to see if Brogdon is the player to make others better or just another co option.

[yoyojw17]

No max is needed to acquired Brogdan. He's solid for what he's brought to the court and all. The guy isn't a superstar level talent. He's more of a borderline starter/bench player at best.

I would max him damn he is a 40-50-90 guy. How many of those are there in the league? Seems like a perfect fit for this team with his flexibility. I mean D-Lo is good I guess but his efficiency numbers are not great but the prevailing wisdom is he is getting a max?

DLo will likely get a max deal due to his improve play this year plus making the All Star Reserves this year. That being said, his numbers do not scream dynamic consistency. The NBA is all about the Euro style of play where they value offense over defense. An argument I still despise.

Anyways, in comparison to Brogdan, Brogdan is the more consistent player according to his stats. Although he's been very efficient during his short career, I can't say he'll command the max in spite of his play. He will get his pay day. That's for sure. A max could be a reach right now.

Agreed. I do not see brogdon at this stage as being a centerpiece of a team based on his body of work. Might not be a center piece but certainly a very valuable player none the less. There might be a team out there willing to pay the premium.... but i believe he would land in the 17-20 mil range. I would loooooove him on our team though. actually much more than possibly DLo. I think he really fits what this team is going for. A bunch of hard working 2 way players .... where you can't stop the team by stopping 1 player alone. but we will see what happens. Not sure how they would open the cap for him though.

[magicman112]

I would max him damn he is a 40-50-90 guy. How many of those are there in the league? Seems like a perfect fit for this team with his flexibility. I mean D-Lo is good I guess but his efficiency numbers are not great but the prevailing wisdom is he is getting a max?

DLo will likely get a max deal due to his improve play this year plus making the All Star Reserves this year. That being said, his numbers do not scream dynamic consistency. The NBA is all about the Euro style of play where they value offense over defense. An argument I still despise.

Anyways, in comparison to Brogdan, Brogdan is the more consistent player according to his stats. Although he's been very efficient during his short career, I can't say he'll command the max in spite of his play. He will get his pay day. That's for sure. A max could be a reach right now.

Brogdon gets the benefit of playing with Giannis, that has to account for a little.

I’d take either of them but really would be interested to see if Brogdon is the player to make others better or just another co option.

Yes, there's a history of players in sports that have benefited from playing next to star players and when they left and went someplace else they didn't have as big of an impact. Alvin Harper from the 90s Cowboys is one example he benefited from the double teams Michael Irvin drew there and when he went to Tampa Bay he wasn't the same player. Not saying that will be the case with Brogdon, he fits a position of need and he might thrive here.

[PrimeThyme]

Weltman somehow got a couple votes for executive of the year. Do Weltman+Hammond both get to vote on it?

I don’t see why they shouldn’t have. We had a pretty sizable improvement in the win column

Weltman somehow got a couple votes for executive of the year. Do Weltman+Hammond both get to vote on it?

In that case, did Rob get some votes too? Basically made it with his core of players.

They hired the right coach, and judging by this board fans generally like the picks they’ve made.

Definitely feel like Clifford deserved some COTY votes. If Isaac/Bamba develop like we are hoping they will get some votes down the road but Bamba barely contributed at all last year and it was mostly Henny guys and the Clifford hire that led to the improvement.

I suppose they do deserve credit for not trading those guys and hiring Clifford in the first place, but not sure that its worthy of EOTY type credit.

[SD2042]

I’d be shocked if you needed to max Brogdon to get him.

No max is needed to acquired Brogdan. He's solid for what he's brought to the court and all. The guy isn't a superstar level talent. He's more of a borderline starter/bench player at best.

huh? borderline starter at best? i may not see star, but he is definitely good enough to be a legit starter

The guy has started before many times. I have no issue with that. It's hard to explain. He has this element with the way he plays. He's a methodical player on the floor. Always seems to think ahead of his opponents at times. He knows where he needs to be on offense to shoot the rock or cut to the basket. He's not the type that looks to make the bold statements on the floor. He believes in his philosophy of being an efficient player as reference to Dylan's earlier point about Brogdan's percentage numbers. That's why I agree with you on the fact that's he's not a star. That's not a bad thing at all.

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Malcolm is a talented player and he will get his pay day. One way or the other. As for my profiling ceiling on him. I stand behind that point that he's a borderline starter or a great 6th Man.

[BadMofoPimp]

I’d be shocked if you needed to max Brogdon to get him.

No max is needed to acquired Brogdan. He's solid for what he's brought to the court and all. The guy isn't a superstar level talent. He's more of a borderline starter/bench player at best.

huh? borderline starter at best? i may not see star, but he is definitely good enough to be a legit starter

Personally, I don't see any player who is not a Star deserving the max.