Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (PtXI, Mods close)

warren4prez · Post #21 » by **warren4prez** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:39 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:I think we'd need a 3rd team to get Monta. But if we were to do a straight up deal, I imagine it would have to look something like this:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=6w7v5wr
GSW Receives: JJ, Ryan, Turk
ORL Receives: Monta, Beindrins

Monta/Jameer/Duhon/Ish
J-Rich/Von/Liggins
Q/Clark
Big Baby/Clark/Harper
Dwight/Beindrins/Orton

We get a backup center and a playmaker. I'm pretty sure we'd have to involve Nelson with a 3rd team to sweeten the deal though.

Also, after March 1st, Big Baby and J-Rich can be traded and both can be serviceable to many teams. Perhaps GS wants J-Rich and Big Baby instead of Turk. Those could also be swung in a 3 team deal. For us, after March 1st, the market should open up a bit more, which is why I don't think acquiring Monta is out of the realm of possibility yet.

Think we give up too much. I rather trade JRich than JJ. JJ moves well off the ball and tries to put the ball on the floor, where JRich stands behind 3pt. No we don't trade Turk, it will allow Ellis to play off ball and allow him to score.

jezzer45 · Post #22 » by **jezzer45** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:40 pm

do you guys think that the reports that gsw wants to chance a d.howard trade would hinder them from giving up ellis.

warren4prez · Post #23 » by **warren4prez** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:53 pm

jezzer45 wrote:do you guys think that the reports that gsw wants to chance a d.howard trade would hinder them from giving up ellis.

No he has no desire to play in Oakland. They should know that unless they are fully aware he is a rental.

jezzer45 · Post #24 » by **jezzer45** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:59 pm

warren4prez wrote:
jezzer45 wrote:do you guys think that the reports that gsw wants to chance a d.howard trade would hinder them from giving up ellis.

No he has no desire to play in Oakland. They should know that unless they are fully aware he is a rental.

thats the problem. they are willing to do it. They feel they have a chance of convincing him of staying. They have a owner who wants to be like cuban, and is willing to throw the money on the table, and also jerry west as an advisor, They are in oakland which is in cali, and have a top 10 fanbase. I am not sure the reason behind their willingness to take a huge gamble but some reports out there have them seriously considering it.

Post #25 » by **Def Swami** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:04 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:Latest mocks have us taking PG Kendall Marshall, some at pick 16, 17, 18. Oh man ! If we could draft Marshall and D12 stays. We would finally have our CP3/Deron type PG.

That would be a steal for us. Whether Dwight stays or goes, I'd be ecstatic to have Marshall on the Magic.

The Real Dalic · Post #26 » by **The Real Dalic** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:06 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:Latest mocks have us taking PG Kendall Marshall, some at pick 16, 17, 18. Oh man ! If we could draft Marshall and D12 stays. We would finally have our CP3/Deron type PG.

That would be a steal for us. Whether Dwight stays or goes, I'd be ecstatic to have Marshall on the Magic.

Me too.

magicman123 · Post #27 » by **magicman123** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:07 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:Latest mocks have us taking PG Kendall Marshall, some at pick 16, 17, 18. Oh man ! If we could draft Marshall and D12 stays. We would finally have our CP3/Deron type PG.

dont worry, otis will trade a 1st rd pick to bring back brian cook :wink:

The Real Dalic · Post #28 » by **The Real Dalic** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:10 pm

magicman123 wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:Latest mocks have us taking PG Kendall Marshall, some at pick 16, 17, 18. Oh man ! If we could draft Marshall and D12 stays. We would finally have our CP3/Deron type PG.

dont worry, otis will trade a 1st rd pick to bring back brian cook

Man, that actually can happen you depressed me. :lol:

CPBalla2003 n da 863 · Post #29 » by **CPBalla2003 n da 863** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:15 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:Latest mocks have us taking PG Kendall Marshall, some at pick 16, 17, 18. Oh man ! If we could draft Marshall and D12 stays. We would finally have our CP3/Deron type PG.

Dude, he's a hell of a player! i would open that with wide arms!

magicman123 · Post #30 » by **magicman123** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:22 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
magicman123 wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:Latest mocks have us taking PG Kendall Marshall, some at pick 16, 17, 18. Oh man ! If we could draft Marshall and D12 stays. We would finally have our CP3/Deron type PG.

dont worry, otis will trade a 1st rd pick to bring back brian cook

Man, that actually can happen you depressed me.

we are magic fans, we need to keep the realistic options open :cry:

cedric76 · Post #31 » by **cedric76** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:31 pm

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1052 ... matum-date

The Orlando Magic have finally made a decision regarding Dwight Howard.

It is either to trade or not trade him, but at least they've finally drawn a line in the sand.

The Real Dalic · Post #32 » by **The Real Dalic** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:34 pm

cedric76 wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1052519-nba-rumors-magic-finally-give-dwight-howard-ultimatum-date

The Orlando Magic have finally made a decision regarding Dwight Howard.

It is either to trade or not trade him, but at least they've finally drawn a line in the sand.

I hope it's true. whether he stays or not I just want this to be over with.

magicman123 · Post #33 » by **magicman123** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:37 pm

cedric76 wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1052519-nba-rumors-magic-finally-give-dwight-howard-ultimatum-date

The Orlando Magic have finally made a decision regarding Dwight Howard.

It is either to trade or not trade him, but at least they've finally drawn a line in the sand.

wow that's crazy, i would of never thought the options were to trade him or not trade him

The Real Dalic · Post #34 » by **The Real Dalic** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:37 pm

magicman123 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1052519-nba-rumors-magic-finally-give-dwight-howard-ultimatum-date

The Orlando Magic have finally made a decision regarding Dwight Howard.

It is either to trade or not trade him, but at least they've finally drawn a line in the sand.

wow that's crazy, i would of never thought the options were to trade him or not trade him

InFlames · Post #35 » by **InFlames** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:40 pm

cedric76 wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1052519-nba-rumors-magic-finally-give-dwight-howard-ultimatum-date

The Orlando Magic have finally made a decision regarding Dwight Howard.

It is either to trade or not trade him, but at least they've finally drawn a line in the sand.

This is new and exciting. In other news, fire still hot.

arkknight1988 · Post #36 » by **arkknight1988** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:40 pm

cedric76 wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1052519-nba-rumors-magic-finally-give-dwight-howard-ultimatum-date

The Orlando Magic have finally made a decision regarding Dwight Howard.

It is either to trade or not trade him, but at least they've finally drawn a line in the sand.

bring in monta or trade him to the nets at the deadline. we MUST send turk with him

The Real Dalic · Post #37 » by **The Real Dalic** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:44 pm

InFlames wrote:
cedric76 wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1052519-nba-rumors-magic-finally-give-dwight-howard-ultimatum-date

The Orlando Magic have finally made a decision regarding Dwight Howard.

It is either to trade or not trade him, but at least they've finally drawn a line in the sand.

This is new and exciting. In other news, fire still hot.

And water is still wet.

magic_turk · Post #38 » by **magic_turk** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:50 pm

Nearly at a 1000! I want Monta on this team so bad lol...

Nemesis21 · Post #39 » by **Nemesis21** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:51 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:Latest mocks have us taking PG Kendall Marshall, some at pick 16, 17, 18. Oh man ! If we could draft Marshall and D12 stays. We would finally have our CP3/Deron type PG.

That would be a steal for us. Whether Dwight stays or goes, I'd be ecstatic to have Marshall on the Magic.

But the perfect scenario, is to pair Marshall with Dwight.

magicman123 · Post #40 » by **magicman123** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:52 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
InFlames wrote:
cedric76 wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1052519-nba-rumors-magic-finally-give-dwight-howard-ultimatum-date

The Orlando Magic have finally made a decision regarding Dwight Howard.

It is either to trade or not trade him, but at least they've finally drawn a line in the sand.

This is new and exciting. In other news, fire still hot.

And water is still wet.

is water wet when its frozen?