Game Thread: R1G5 - Magic(1-3) @ Indy(3-1) - Tuesday 7PMEST

ADRajX · Post #21 » by **ADRajX** » Mon May 7, 2012 6:30 pm

arkknight1988 wrote:i just want to say...Nelson is the worst clutch defender of all time!

Oh man, I was fuming when he sagged off of Hill three times late in the game... 1) Hill brought the ball up to the left wing (in transition), Nelson dropped way under for no reason and Hill hits an uncontested 3-pointer 2) Hill hits a left corner 3-pointer when Nelson dropped down to the weak-side low-block, thinking he was going to have to help on a big (lol c'mon man, you're not going to box-out a big or defend one) 3) Hill make an easy left corner baseline shot when he gets the ball, and Nelson sort of fell asleep on his rotation/close-out... lost sight of him.

The first one though reminded me of when Nelson sagged off of Fisher in the Finals, and Fisher hit a transition 3.

Word of advice to Nelson and our guys... PLAY the perimeter TIGHT... let our SF, PF, and C help and switch on the opposing bigs. If you're in the back-court, just stay at HOME with your Man. Please do that, and don't miss rotations & close-outs. Time to be timely. :lol:

@arsenal6106
You're welcome... like everyone else has said... ONE GAME AT A TIME. I think we're due for a 3-game winning streak :wink:

... let's get our players thinking the same. Tweet them!

magicman123 · Post #22 » by **magicman123** » Mon May 7, 2012 6:31 pm

now that the pressure if off i fully expect some of the scrubs to step up

eyriq · Post #23 » by **eyriq** » Mon May 7, 2012 6:32 pm

I am excited about this game! Stan has been doing a rush job trying to find the right chemistry for this Dwightless team but I think he is getting close, that 4th quarter run was epic. I think our offense breaks through this game.

ADRajX · Post #24 » by **ADRajX** » Mon May 7, 2012 6:50 pm

eyriq wrote:I am excited about this game! Stan has been doing a rush job trying to find the right chemistry for this Dwightless team but I think he is getting close, that 4th quarter run was epic. I think our offense breaks through this game.

Yep, all it took were a few things.

1) Redick/Davis pick & roll offense. (Indiana could not defend it AT ALL, so implement more plays into it.)

2) Baseline, back-door, weak-side, & center cuts. (Guys like J-Rich had an easy time doing that against Indiana.)

3) High-Low offense. (Davis as the passer or the finisher works brilliantly.)

4) Driving/Attacking the basket. (Indiana's D collapses, and it opens up our perimeter game.)

5) Played tight defense with timely help and rotations/close-outs. They also stopped Indiana's transition attempts. (When we contest Indiana's shots, they don't make a lot of them. Simple as that.)

6) Hustled on the rebounds (boxing-out constantly! *Chosen :wink:

*) after getting stops, got out on the break/transition, & pushed the ball up. (Indiana couldn't set up in their defense correctly, we had a lot of switches/mismatches going in our favor).

7) This is just an observation, but Davis & Hedo can kind of slow down West, & surprisingly Davis, Ryan, & Clark can kind of slow down Hibbert. Orton is okay on both as well, BUT Clark & Ryan absolutely CANNOT guard West. They just can't, they get abused or nailed to the floor constantly. So let's be smart about this and put defenders on Davis & Hibbert who can at least put up some resistance, okay.

8) Protecting the ball, moving the ball, and playing with Heart & Hustle. (Self-explanatory.)

Funny, all the things we have constantly criticized and asked for our team to do... THEY FINALLY UNDERSTOOD IT AND DID IT IN THE 4TH QUARTER & OVERTIME OF GAME 4... fml lol ... well it's better late than never I suppose, right? I hope they remember what they did correctly during that game, and I hope they remember what got them back into the game in the first place. DO NOT DEVIATE FROM IT!

Also for the love of GOD, please play with energy for the full 48min, and don't get behind in the 1st & 3rd Quarters.

If they can do that, they can definitely win Game 5. GO MAGIC! Maybe we should remind our players on what they did right in the 4th Q & over-time with a friendly tweet. :lol:

Post #25 » by **ChosenSavior** » Mon May 7, 2012 6:58 pm

Well said DJ although you left out one important thing, well actually two...

Our team has to BOX OUT at all times! Do not expect the ball to come to you on the rebound, guys have to go attack it and want it more than the other team. Hell if we just box out, that would increase our rebounding chances.

The other would be for Stan to not play Duhon at all.

One aspect can be controlled, the other I'm not so sure unfortunately...

magicman123 · Post #26 » by **magicman123** » Mon May 7, 2012 7:02 pm

duhon gonna prove y'all wrong

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmzQt0FE8wY[/youtube]

ADRajX · Post #27 » by **ADRajX** » Mon May 7, 2012 7:06 pm

ChosenSavior wrote:Well said DJ although you left out one important thing, well actually two...

Our team has to BOX OUT at all times! Do not expect the ball to come to you on the rebound, guys have to go attack it and want it more than the other team. Hell if we just box out, that would increase our rebounding chances.

The other would be for Stan to not play Duhon at all.

One aspect can be controlled, the other I'm not so sure unfortunately...

+1 Oh yeah definitely... the ball isn't going to magically fall into your hands... obviously boxing-out is a must when hustling for rebounds... we should do that constantly just like we should constantly rotate, close out, and contest ALL shots

... get stop, get rebounds!

And yes, DUHON NOT PLAYING would help greatly, but I don't think SVG will make that change. I gave up hope on that ever occurring.

ADRajX · Post #28 » by **ADRajX** » Mon May 7, 2012 7:13 pm

Updates/quotes from practice. LET'S GO!

John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555

#Magic watching film and practicing now before leaving for Indy. Will have quotes and info afterward.

John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555

My take on #Magic last shot: JJ Redick made every right decision in P-and-R in 4th (6 asts). Give him ball instead of Jameer clear-out play.

Josh Robbins ‏ @JoshuaBRobbins

#Magic players say they're over their heartbreaking Game 4 loss.

Josh Robbins ‏ @JoshuaBRobbins

The #Magic have no new injury concerns, SVG said.

John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555

#Magic Big Baby: "I couldn't get away from (Game 4). I thought about it all day (on Sun). And I didn't get any sleep. But it's done now."

John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555

#Magic Ryan Anderson: "We can still win (the series). We get one win there and we have the momentum on our side to bring back here."

John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555

#Magic RAnderson: "We're not down and out. And it's not like we're trying to go out with a bang. We're expecting to go play hard and win."

Josh Robbins ‏ @JoshuaBRobbins

More from the #Orlando #Magic about trying to recover from the Game 4 loss to the #Pacers: http://ht.ly/aKBHz

John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555

#Magic Big Baby:"(Sat) was tough, but we have to let it go. If we worry too much we won’t focus on task at hand and we won’t stay alive."

John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555

#Magic Big Baby:"The energy level we showed in the 2nd half (on Sat) stuck to us. That’s the energy that we have to play with (tomorrow)."

John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555

#Magic SVG: ``I think our guys think that we can win (the series). I may be wrong on that, but I don’t think so."

John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555

#Magic SVG: "I go by what I see and I saw guys practicing very hard today.We practiced like we’re still in a series.That’s all I can go on’’

John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555

#Magic Hedo Turkoglu on guarding David West: "In this situation, I don’t care. I’ll take whatever challenges there are to help the team."

John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555

#Magic more Turk:"(D.West) is stronger than me, but I’ll try to front him and push him away from the basket. Hopefully, I’ll get some help."

John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555

#Magic Jameer on last shot:"Ob. I wanna make the shot. But it’s not like I’m going into the next game thinking, `Aw, I missed my last one.’"

John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555

#Magic Jameer Nelson on last shot:"I’ll take the same shot and make the same move because that’s something that I work on all the time.’’

John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555

#Magic R.Anderson:"There’s no need to hang our heads.We’ve gone through a lot this year and we fought through it.We’re closer because of it"

Josh Robbins ‏ @JoshuaBRobbins

SVG said the #Orlando #Magic will employ the same starting lineup in Game 5 against the #Indiana #Pacers.

dsg2021 · Post #29 » by **dsg2021** » Mon May 7, 2012 7:18 pm

One game at a time guys. That Denton tweet about JJ says a lot.

magicman123 · Post #30 » by **magicman123** » Mon May 7, 2012 7:51 pm

control the glass

indiana: 47.8rpg, 14.0 offensive rpg
orlando: 39.5rpg, 10.0 offensive rpg

ryan: 4.8reb in 33.3min
Qrich: 4.8reb in 17.0min

BBD: with 4.8 offensive rebounds per game in the series

players averaging more defensive rebounds than anderson: clark 5.3reb, Q 4.8reb, davis 4.8reb, jameer 3.8reb, jrich 3.0reb, ryan 3.0reb

hedo 5th in scoring 8.8pts, ryan 6th in scoring 8.5pts
hedo 6th in fg% 40, ryan 9th in fg% 32

time for hedo and anderson to step up, we need them

OrlandO · Post #31 » by **OrlandO** » Mon May 7, 2012 8:15 pm

A win please, that is all... thanks in advance!

Reverse_Angle · Post #32 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Mon May 7, 2012 8:30 pm

i am loving this thread so far. it is perfect.

Post #33 » by **Def Swami** » Mon May 7, 2012 8:33 pm

Game 6 would be so much fun if we could pull this one out :pray:

Post #34 » by **ChosenSavior** » Mon May 7, 2012 8:36 pm

You want to know how important this game and the Magic are to me? I have requested to take a day off tomorrow just so I can watch this game and post with you guys and girls for this one. We all have to band together and hope for the best!

Don't let me down Orlando!!! 8-)

OrlandO · Post #35 » by **OrlandO** » Mon May 7, 2012 9:08 pm

ChosenSavior wrote:You want to know how important this game and the Magic are to me? I have requested to take a day off tomorrow just so I can watch this game and post with you guys and girls for this one. We all have to band together and hope for the best!

Don't let me down Orlando!!!

If we win, will you request Friday off too?

Post #36 » by **ChosenSavior** » Mon May 7, 2012 9:09 pm

OrlandO wrote:
ChosenSavior wrote:You want to know how important this game and the Magic are to me? I have requested to take a day off tomorrow just so I can watch this game and post with you guys and girls for this one. We all have to band together and hope for the best!

Don't let me down Orlando!!!

If we win, will you request Friday off too?

I just might have to, however I'm running out of vacation time... :lol:

One game at a time now... 8-)

toquito · Post #37 » by **toquito** » Mon May 7, 2012 9:27 pm

Reverse_Angle wrote:i am loving this thread so far. it is perfect.

Wonder why that is

ChildishGambino · Post #38 » by **ChildishGambino** » Mon May 7, 2012 9:42 pm

so no changes to the rotation or starting lineup? something has to change....yeah we showed fight and all that ra ra stuff but there are still flaws....doesn't erase them

Post #39 » by **SD2042** » Mon May 7, 2012 9:48 pm

So far, this has been the most positive thread in the series. I hope this can inspire Magic enough to get a win on Tuesday.

eyriq · Post #40 » by **eyriq** » Mon May 7, 2012 9:52 pm

magicman123 wrote:control the glass

indiana: 47.8rpg, 14.0 offensive rpg
orlando: 39.5rpg, 10.0 offensive rpg

ryan: 4.8reb in 33.3min
Qrich: 4.8reb in 17.0min

BBD: with 4.8 offensive rebounds per game in the series

players averaging more defensive rebounds than anderson: clark 5.3reb, Q 4.8reb, davis 4.8reb, jameer 3.8reb, jrich 3.0reb, ryan 3.0reb

hedo 5th in scoring 8.8pts, ryan 6th in scoring 8.5pts
hedo 6th in fg% 40, ryan 9th in fg% 32

time for hedo and anderson to step up, we need them

Yup. Just one average game for Ryan and we'd be tied 2-2 instead of down 1-3. You'd figure something has to give eventually.