Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch

[MasterGMer]

I still like Kabongo over any other PG right now. That and he is getting comparisons to CP3 gets me excited.


I'd like Orlando to go more of the Pass first prototypical PG


IMO John Wall type PGs don't pan out on winning teams except for westbrooks case

I don't like to compare CP3 to "pass first Point Gaurd". To me he is a offensive oriented, pick and roll style of Point Guard, just like Deron. They are not pass first or scoring first. If there is no where to score, he will pass. If no where to pass, score! Just do the best thing possible. That's the true "Combo Guard".

But Rondo is different so is Kendall Marshall. That's pass first point guards.

So what type of Point Guard is Kabongo?

[ChildishGambino]

oh damn....glad to see someone ran with my thread idea i like this thread already.....now we have to keep on it to get it stickied.....just like Mastergmer said i don't think we'll tank bad enough to get a top 3 pick unless it's a traded one......our own pick will probably be around 6-12 and we'll probably get from TPE a few mid first rounders.....who would be great around that area?

[RYgoBOOM]

I don't see us being better than many teams lol...

I think we have a chance between 1-3

[TDJacksonville]

I still like Kabongo over any other PG right now. That and he is getting comparisons to CP3 gets me excited.


I'd like Orlando to go more of the Pass first prototypical PG


IMO John Wall type PGs don't pan out on winning teams except for westbrooks case

I don't like to compare CP3 to "pass first Point Gaurd". To me he is a offensive oriented, pick and roll style of Point Guard, just like Deron. They are not pass first or scoring first. If there is no where to score, he will pass. If no where to pass, score! Just do the best thing possible. That's the true "Combo Guard".

But Rondo is different so is Kendall Marshall. That's pass first point guards.

So what type of Point Guard is Kabongo?

ive seen Kombango compared to rondo as they both are Pure Point Guards who had no jump shot

[TDJacksonville]

oh damn....glad to see someone ran with my thread idea i like this thread already.....now we have to keep on it to get it stickied.....just like Mastergmer said i don't think we'll tank bad enough to get a top 3 pick unless it's a traded one......our own pick will probably be around 6-12 and we'll probably get from TPE a few mid first rounders.....who would be great around that area?

i would love finding a Traditional center somewhere in the draft. i mean we have guys that can play center but they arent a traditional Big center or even close to the Knew Big man which is the zeller drafted last year.

a couple of guys of Interest: C Alec Brown from Wisonsin-Green Bay, C Joshua Moore from UCLA, as well as C Steven Adams from Pittsburgh.

anyone know anything about PG Nate Wolters from South Dakota State. all i know is that hes a 6 foot 4 190 pound white Point Guard who averaged 21.2 Points, 5.1 Boards, 5.9 assists, 0.1 Blocks, 1.7 Steals, 2.2 turnovers.

[MoMM]

oh damn....glad to see someone ran with my thread idea i like this thread already.....now we have to keep on it to get it stickied.....

Yeah, we will kill the Speculation Thread

[TDJacksonville]

oh damn....glad to see someone ran with my thread idea i like this thread already.....now we have to keep on it to get it stickied.....just like Mastergmer said i don't think we'll tank bad enough to get a top 3 pick unless it's a traded one......our own pick will probably be around 6-12 and we'll probably get from TPE a few mid first rounders.....who would be great around that area?

i would love finding a Traditional center somewhere in the draft. i mean we have guys that can play center but they arent a traditional Big center or even close to the Knew Big man which is the zeller drafted last year.

a couple of guys of Interest: C Alec Brown from Wisonsin-Green Bay, C Joshua Moore from UCLA, as well as C Steven Adams from Pittsburgh.

anyone know anything about PG Nate Wolters from South Dakota State. all i know is that hes a 6 foot 4 190 pound white Point Guard who averaged 21.2 Points, 5.1 Boards, 5.9 assists, 0.1 Blocks, 1.7 Steals, 2.2 turnovers.

well i found out he turns the ball over when hes attacking the paint. compares to lin offensively and defensively hes steve blake

[ChildishGambino]

Me personally i think we'll need a PG and or SG......because at center i like to see how Vucci mane pans out......imo if he was in this upcoming draft he would be a lottery pick.....so for me he has the tag of "Center of the future" Nicholson/O'Quinn has our "PF of the future" locked up.....pretty sure that Harkless is our "SF of the future" so that's three positions where we have promising prospects in already so to me all there's left is PG and or SG....

My top 3 realistic PG options
Ian Miller- 6"3 190 FSU ---------------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y29weTPWmiM
Ian made a late transition to PG which is probably why he chose to stay another year to help his PG skills but he is definitely in the mold of Westbrook/Wall/Rose the PG's that's taking over the NBA

Lorenzo Brown- 6"5 186 NC State -------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgzIDm3GRag
Big PG that can get to the basket almost at will and be able to see the pass you have to make and makes that pass with his great vision.....think Tony Wroten except with a reliable jumpshot

Ryan Harrow- 6"1 175 Kentucky --------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPKktC6ud0Y
Used to be NC State but i believe he transferred to the Wildcats to display his talents.....He is the create his own shot PG but he's also very quick and has all the bag of tricks....crossovers, step backs, etc...Good vision as well...Think Brandon Jennings good and bad....

i'll do the SG's later

[TDJacksonville]

Me personally i think we'll need a PG and or SG......because at center i like to see how Vucci mane pans out......imo if he was in this upcoming draft he would be a lottery pick.....so for me he has the tag of "Center of the future" Nicholson/O'Quinn has our "PF of the future" locked up.....pretty sure that Harkless is our "SF of the future" so that's three positions where we have promising prospects in already so to me all there's left is PG and or SG....

My top 3 realistic PG options
Ian Miller- 6"3 190 FSU ---------------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y29weTPWmiM
Ian made a late transition to PG which is probably why he chose to stay another year to help his PG skills but he is definitely in the mold of Westbrook/Wall/Rose the PG's that's taking over the NBA

Lorenzo Brown- 6"5 186 NC State -------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgzIDm3GRag
Big PG that can get to the basket almost at will and be able to see the pass you have to make and makes that pass with his great vision.....think Tony Wroten except with a reliable jumpshot

Ryan Harrow- 6"1 175 Kentucky --------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPKktC6ud0Y
Used to be NC State but i believe he transferred to the Wildcats to display his talents.....He is the create his own shot PG but he's also very quick and has all the bag of tricks....crossovers, step backs, etc...Good vision as well...Think Brandon Jennings good and bad....

i'll do the SG's later

harkless can play SG as well. as for Harrow i dont want him. the other 2 are fine but i dont think any of them is worth a lottery pick

[Noonskadoodle]

Hopefully our scouts are watching Rudy Gobert closely overseas. The guy is 7'2" & has a CRAZY wingspan of 7'9". He just turned 20 & if he adds more muscle to his build he could be a problem in the NBA.

From DraftExpress

Possessing impressive mobility for a player standing over 7 feet tall, Gobert's athleticism and impact on both ends of the floor is unmatched in this years field.

A 1992-born prospect who won't turn 20 until a few days before the upcoming draft, Gobert got his first significant taste of high-level competition this season, playing rotation minutes for Cholet in France. He shot almost 80% from the field in Pro A, while showing impressive potential as a rebounder and shot blocker. The progress he's made since last season is extremely promising, and he's maturing at a terrific rate.

The French big man still has a significant amount of work to do to fill out his 231-pound frame, will need to polish his offensive skills, and has to cut down on his foul-rate to keep himself on the floor, but the future is extremely bright for the young center. He's a player we'll be covering in significant detail this coming year, as he has all the talent to demand consideration for lottery status in the 2013 NBA draft.


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[MasterGMer]

Me personally i think we'll need a PG and or SG......because at center i like to see how Vucci mane pans out......imo if he was in this upcoming draft he would be a lottery pick.....so for me he has the tag of "Center of the future" Nicholson/O'Quinn has our "PF of the future" locked up.....pretty sure that Harkless is our "SF of the future" so that's three positions where we have promising prospects in already so to me all there's left is PG and or SG....

My top 3 realistic PG options
Ian Miller- 6"3 190 FSU ---------------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y29weTPWmiM
Ian made a late transition to PG which is probably why he chose to stay another year to help his PG skills but he is definitely in the mold of Westbrook/Wall/Rose the PG's that's taking over the NBA

Lorenzo Brown- 6"5 186 NC State -------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgzIDm3GRag
Big PG that can get to the basket almost at will and be able to see the pass you have to make and makes that pass with his great vision.....think Tony Wroten except with a reliable jumpshot

Ryan Harrow- 6"1 175 Kentucky --------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPKktC6ud0Y
Used to be NC State but i believe he transferred to the Wildcats to display his talents.....He is the create his own shot PG but he's also very quick and has all the bag of tricks....crossovers, step backs, etc...Good vision as well...Think Brandon Jennings good and bad....

i'll do the SG's later

harkless can play SG as well. as for Harrow i dont want him. the other 2 are fine but i dont think any of them is worth a lottery pick

What about McCollum? That's a lottory pick!

[ChildishGambino]

Me personally i think we'll need a PG and or SG......because at center i like to see how Vucci mane pans out......imo if he was in this upcoming draft he would be a lottery pick.....so for me he has the tag of "Center of the future" Nicholson/O'Quinn has our "PF of the future" locked up.....pretty sure that Harkless is our "SF of the future" so that's three positions where we have promising prospects in already so to me all there's left is PG and or SG....

My top 3 realistic PG options
Ian Miller- 6"3 190 FSU ---------------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y29weTPWmiM
Ian made a late transition to PG which is probably why he chose to stay another year to help his PG skills but he is definitely in the mold of Westbrook/Wall/Rose the PG's that's taking over the NBA

Lorenzo Brown- 6"5 186 NC State -------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgzIDm3GRag
Big PG that can get to the basket almost at will and be able to see the pass you have to make and makes that pass with his great vision.....think Tony Wroten except with a reliable jumpshot

Ryan Harrow- 6"1 175 Kentucky --------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPKktC6ud0Y
Used to be NC State but i believe he transferred to the Wildcats to display his talents.....He is the create his own shot PG but he's also very quick and has all the bag of tricks....crossovers, step backs, etc...Good vision as well...Think Brandon Jennings good and bad....

i'll do the SG's later

harkless can play SG as well. as for Harrow i dont want him. the other 2 are fine but i dont think any of them is worth a lottery pick

They could very well be lottery picks but that remains to be seen.....we'll see how they do throughout the season.....but i was thinking one of those 3 could be had mid first round.....what i would be content and happy with is if Henny turns that TPE into 2 lottery picks and a couple mid first rounders plus along with our own first round pick that could be anywhere from top 3 to mid first round.....don't know if it's possible but i would be happy with that scenario....2 lottery picks and 2 mid first round picks plus our pick which could possibly end up being another lottery pick.....might be a pipe dream but man i would love that if it came to pass

[TDJacksonville]

Me personally i think we'll need a PG and or SG......because at center i like to see how Vucci mane pans out......imo if he was in this upcoming draft he would be a lottery pick.....so for me he has the tag of "Center of the future" Nicholson/O'Quinn has our "PF of the future" locked up.....pretty sure that Harkless is our "SF of the future" so that's three positions where we have promising prospects in already so to me all there's left is PG and or SG....

My top 3 realistic PG options
Ian Miller- 6"3 190 FSU ---------------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y29weTPWmiM
Ian made a late transition to PG which is probably why he chose to stay another year to help his PG skills but he is definitely in the mold of Westbrook/Wall/Rose the PG's that's taking over the NBA

Lorenzo Brown- 6"5 186 NC State -------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgzIDm3GRag
Big PG that can get to the basket almost at will and be able to see the pass you have to make and makes that pass with his great vision.....think Tony Wroten except with a reliable jumpshot

Ryan Harrow- 6"1 175 Kentucky --------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPKktC6ud0Y
Used to be NC State but i believe he transferred to the Wildcats to display his talents.....He is the create his own shot PG but he's also very quick and has all the bag of tricks....crossovers, step backs, etc...Good vision as well...Think Brandon Jennings good and bad....

i'll do the SG's later

harkless can play SG as well. as for Harrow i dont want him. the other 2 are fine but i dont think any of them is worth a lottery pick

What about McCollum? That's a lottory pick!

truelly depends on who u ask about him. hes a Combo guard imo

[MasterGMer]

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harkless can play SG as well. as for Harrow i dont want him. the other 2 are fine but i dont think any of them is worth a lottery pick

What about McCollum? That's a lottory pick!

truelly depends on who u ask about him. hes a Combo guard imo

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Watch this video. He is truly a "Complete Guard". Further more, if you watch how he plays "isolation", he shoots over defender and he is good at creating space. This reminds me of "Tracy McGrady".It may look like a bad shot. But don't think he shoots bad shots. He is just good at it. He is quick off the dribble and he knows how to play pick and roll. If he is from a power conference, he could be a top 5 pick imo.

[TDJacksonville]

Me personally i think we'll need a PG and or SG......because at center i like to see how Vucci mane pans out......imo if he was in this upcoming draft he would be a lottery pick.....so for me he has the tag of "Center of the future" Nicholson/O'Quinn has our "PF of the future" locked up.....pretty sure that Harkless is our "SF of the future" so that's three positions where we have promising prospects in already so to me all there's left is PG and or SG....

My top 3 realistic PG options
Ian Miller- 6"3 190 FSU ---------------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y29weTPWmiM
Ian made a late transition to PG which is probably why he chose to stay another year to help his PG skills but he is definitely in the mold of Westbrook/Wall/Rose the PG's that's taking over the NBA

Lorenzo Brown- 6"5 186 NC State -------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgzIDm3GRag
Big PG that can get to the basket almost at will and be able to see the pass you have to make and makes that pass with his great vision.....think Tony Wroten except with a reliable jumpshot

Ryan Harrow- 6"1 175 Kentucky --------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPKktC6ud0Y
Used to be NC State but i believe he transferred to the Wildcats to display his talents.....He is the create his own shot PG but he's also very quick and has all the bag of tricks....crossovers, step backs, etc...Good vision as well...Think Brandon Jennings good and bad....

i'll do the SG's later

harkless can play SG as well. as for Harrow i dont want him. the other 2 are fine but i dont think any of them is worth a lottery pick

They could very well be lottery picks but that remains to be seen.....we'll see how they do throughout the season.....but i was thinking one of those 3 could be had mid first round.....what i would be content and happy with is if Henny turns that TPE into 2 lottery picks and a couple mid first rounders plus along with our own first round pick that could be anywhere from top 3 to mid first round.....don't know if it's possible but i would be happy with that scenario....2 lottery picks and 2 mid first round picks plus our pick which could possibly end up being another lottery pick.....might be a pipe dream but man i would love that if it came to pass

ya ur scenario sounds like something that would happen in NBA 2k12. if we could do the Bierdins and Villa then ya theres ur 2 lottery picks but theres no more TPE after that.

with 3 Lottery Picks i would Probably go with C Adams, SF Adonis Thomas(6 foot 5 and a 7 foot wingspan) but Golden States 1st round pick is top 6 protected till 2015 with it going to Utah unless its top 6.

[Noonskadoodle]

Me personally i think we'll need a PG and or SG......because at center i like to see how Vucci mane pans out......imo if he was in this upcoming draft he would be a lottery pick.....so for me he has the tag of "Center of the future" Nicholson/O'Quinn has our "PF of the future" locked up.....pretty sure that Harkless is our "SF of the future" so that's three positions where we have promising prospects in already so to me all there's left is PG and or SG....

My top 3 realistic PG options
Ian Miller- 6"3 190 FSU ---------------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y29weTPWmiM
Ian made a late transition to PG which is probably why he chose to stay another year to help his PG skills but he is definitely in the mold of Westbrook/Wall/Rose the PG's that's taking over the NBA

Lorenzo Brown- 6"5 186 NC State -------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgzIDm3GRag
Big PG that can get to the basket almost at will and be able to see the pass you have to make and makes that pass with his great vision.....think Tony Wroten except with a reliable jumpshot

Ryan Harrow- 6"1 175 Kentucky --------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPKktC6ud0Y
Used to be NC State but i believe he transferred to the Wildcats to display his talents.....He is the create his own shot PG but he's also very quick and has all the bag of tricks....crossovers, step backs, etc...Good vision as well...Think Brandon Jennings good and bad....

i'll do the SG's later

2013 is projected to be very weak at SG. Outside of Shabazz, Goodwin, & Caldwell-Pope there really isn't much there.

[ChildishGambino]

Me personally i think we'll need a PG and or SG......because at center i like to see how Vucci mane pans out......imo if he was in this upcoming draft he would be a lottery pick.....so for me he has the tag of "Center of the future" Nicholson/O'Quinn has our "PF of the future" locked up.....pretty sure that Harkless is our "SF of the future" so that's three positions where we have promising prospects in already so to me all there's left is PG and or SG....

My top 3 realistic PG options
Ian Miller- 6"3 190 FSU ---------------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y29weTPWmiM
Ian made a late transition to PG which is probably why he chose to stay another year to help his PG skills but he is definitely in the mold of Westbrook/Wall/Rose the PG's that's taking over the NBA

Lorenzo Brown- 6"5 186 NC State -------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgzIDm3GRag
Big PG that can get to the basket almost at will and be able to see the pass you have to make and makes that pass with his great vision.....think Tony Wroten except with a reliable jumpshot

Ryan Harrow- 6"1 175 Kentucky --------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPKktC6ud0Y
Used to be NC State but i believe he transferred to the Wildcats to display his talents.....He is the create his own shot PG but he's also very quick and has all the bag of tricks....crossovers, step backs, etc...Good vision as well...Think Brandon Jennings good and bad....

i'll do the SG's later

2013 is projected to be very weak at SG. Outside of Shabazz & Kentavious Caldwell-Pope there really isn't much there.

yeah that's what i got initially when i skimmed a few draft boards.....we could very well just trade for our shooting guard....we have "flexibility" so we can do different stuff to get our desired result.....but one thing i haven't put into the equation is the coaching staff.....Coach vaughn's play style and philosophy will be a part of draft decisions will it not? if we're going in an uptempo style of play then it wouldn't be conducive to get a back to the basket type player right? i can't really say just get the best player available because if Henny did that then we would have Perry jones on our roster right now..... so what do you think will coaching style be taken in consideration when making our picks?

[Def Swami]

What other Point Guards are there in 2013? Any more intriguing ones?

Only other one I have a good opinion on is Kabongo. I think it's a weak point guard class. But, we could find out differently when the season starts. I'd look to 2014 for point guards.

id look at wiggins 1st

In that draft, yes.

[Def Swami]

id look at wiggins 1st

Noel and Wiggins are probably going to end up being the top 3 pick. Are we really going to tank that far? I highly doubt it. More realistic prospects?

If we're not tanking that far, we're in trouble.

[TDJacksonville]

Me personally i think we'll need a PG and or SG......because at center i like to see how Vucci mane pans out......imo if he was in this upcoming draft he would be a lottery pick.....so for me he has the tag of "Center of the future" Nicholson/O'Quinn has our "PF of the future" locked up.....pretty sure that Harkless is our "SF of the future" so that's three positions where we have promising prospects in already so to me all there's left is PG and or SG....

My top 3 realistic PG options
Ian Miller- 6"3 190 FSU ---------------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y29weTPWmiM
Ian made a late transition to PG which is probably why he chose to stay another year to help his PG skills but he is definitely in the mold of Westbrook/Wall/Rose the PG's that's taking over the NBA

Lorenzo Brown- 6"5 186 NC State -------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgzIDm3GRag
Big PG that can get to the basket almost at will and be able to see the pass you have to make and makes that pass with his great vision.....think Tony Wroten except with a reliable jumpshot

Ryan Harrow- 6"1 175 Kentucky --------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPKktC6ud0Y
Used to be NC State but i believe he transferred to the Wildcats to display his talents.....He is the create his own shot PG but he's also very quick and has all the bag of tricks....crossovers, step backs, etc...Good vision as well...Think Brandon Jennings good and bad....

i'll do the SG's later

2013 is projected to be very weak at SG. Outside of Shabazz & Kentavious Caldwell-Pope there really isn't much there.

yeah that's what i got initially when i skimmed a few draft boards.....we could very well just trade for our shooting guard....we have "flexibility" so we can do different stuff to get our desired result.....but one thing i haven't put into the equation is the coaching staff.....Coach vaughn's play style and philosophy will be a part of draft decisions will it not? if we're going in an uptempo style of play then it wouldn't be conducive to get a back to the basket type player right? i can't really say just get the best player available because if Henny did that then we would have Perry jones on our roster right now..... so what do you think will coaching style be taken in consideration when making our picks?

sure we have Vucevic and Oquinn and the others but we dont have a True Top Notch Defender at center to against the Bynums, howard and such.