Noah Vonleh Thread [Merged]

[Smooth_E]

So, we're getting end of bench guy for next season. Lottery here we come again.

FYI. Exum will be an end of the bench guy his rookie year.

Some how, I knew this would be posted by you. Just as sure as the sun rises every morning in the east, BMP...

[Optimus_Steel]

I don't believe this. Mainly because we have bigger needs in the perimeter than at PF, and Exum and Smart look to be better prospects than Vonleh. The NBA is a perimeter, outside shooting, and penetration league now. It makes sense to draft one of the explosive and skilled guards (Exum/Smart) first then go big later, specially since this may be the last time we pick in the top 5 for a long time. Another thing is that this team will still be a work in progress next year, even with the 2 rookies were picking. People seem hell bent on getting that defensive PF they been clamoring for right now, and In my opinion we don't need to do it right now. We have trade chips, we have more draft picks owed to us. We have FA in 2015. We don't have to find that defensive/block shooting dynamite PF in this draft. We have options.

[BadMofoPimp]

So, we're getting end of bench guy for next season. Lottery here we come again.

FYI. Exum will be an end of the bench guy his rookie year.

No. He will prove you wrong.

I am considering taking $100 bets in that:

If both Moore and Exum are on the Magic roster for the 2014/15 season that Moore will get more mpg or ppg.

[p0peye]

FYI. Exum will be an end of the bench guy his rookie year.

No. He will prove you wrong.

I am considering taking $100 bets in that:

If both Moore and Exum are on the Magic roster for the 2014/15 season that Moore will get more mpg or ppg.

I'd take that bet.

[eyriq]

Noah Vonleh does not strike me as a potential all star

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[MagicFan41]

Noah Vonley does not strike me as a potential all star

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Is it just me or does somebody's opinion take a dip in credibility when they haven't seen enough of the guy to spell his name properly? (Yes I know you know the correct spelling, just messing around)

[Orlwillbeback]

This decision would easily set the franchise back 2-4 years.

[Blue_and_Whte]

This decision would easily set the franchise back 2-4 years.

some of you are so dramatic. Come on man....

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[Orlwillbeback]

This decision would easily set the franchise back 2-4 years.

some of you are so dramatic. Come on man....

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It most certainly would. Vonleh is not a future star and smart/exum potentially are. We cannot **** up this draft by taking a project without great upside at 4.

[purpleswordfish]

I don't hate this potential move as much as most others here. Vonleh certainly has the potential to be a very good player and fill a tremendous need for this team. I understand a lot of people are sold on KOQ as our starting PF, but I think that he's better suited off the bench. We really need a long-term point guard, but if this is who the Magic feel is the BPA I'm totally OK with this choice.

[thelead]

NO ONE that actually WATCHED Vonleh would want this to happen. Ya'll "wingspan and measureables" people have lost it.

[BadMofoPimp]

I don't hate this potential move as much as most others here. Vonleh certainly has the potential to be a very good player and fill a tremendous need for this team. I understand a lot of people are sold on KOQ as our starting PF, but I think that he's better suited off the bench. We really need a long-term point guard, but if this is who the Magic feel is the BPA I'm totally OK with this choice.

The KOQ's and BBD's of the NBA are just role players that get inserted into the starting lineup on one of the worst teams in the NBA then get inflated stats while losing to make them look much better than they are. There are tons of JJ Hicksons and Jordan Hills out there.

But, they make solid 5-15mpg bench players on good teams.

[Skin]

We would not be able to recover from a pick this atrocious.

[Edrock]

This decision would easily set the franchise back 2-4 years.

That'd put them in 2010, 59 wins, lost in the conference finals... I'm okay with this...

[eyriq]

I don't hate this potential move as much as most others here. Vonleh certainly has the potential to be a very good player and fill a tremendous need for this team. I understand a lot of people are sold on KOQ as our starting PF, but I think that he's better suited off the bench. We really need a long-term point guard, but if this is who the Magic feel is the BPA I'm totally OK with this choice.

The KOQ's and BBD's of the NBA are just role players that get inserted into the starting lineup on one of the worst teams in the NBA then get inflated stats while losing to make them look much better than they are. There are tons of JJ Hicksons and Jordan Hills out there.

But, they make solid 5-15mpg bench players on good teams.

BBD'S inflated stats did not make him look better......

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[BadMofoPimp]

I don't hate this potential move as much as most others here. Vonleh certainly has the potential to be a very good player and fill a tremendous need for this team. I understand a lot of people are sold on KOQ as our starting PF, but I think that he's better suited off the bench. We really need a long-term point guard, but if this is who the Magic feel is the BPA I'm totally OK with this choice.

The KOQ's and BBD's of the NBA are just role players that get inserted into the starting lineup on one of the worst teams in the NBA then get inflated stats while losing to make them look much better than they are. There are tons of JJ Hicksons and Jordan Hills out there.

But, they make solid 5-15mpg bench players on good teams.

BBD'S inflated stats did not make him look better......

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I am also sure KOQ's inflated stats didn't help him much either. I doubt any teams in the NBA are lining up to trade for him or offer a decent contract either with the intention of him developing into a starter someday. I was just sayin.

[MagicFan101]

Everyone knows Orlando's top two needs are PG and PF.

My dream scenario is for Orlando to draft Exum or Smart at #4 and work a deal with AA + #12 to move up and grab Vonleh or Randle.

However, it is difficult to build a mock draft which incorporates unannounced trades and those quickly become even more unrealistic than the original mock draft. So considering the PGs expected to be available at #12 are far more exciting than the PFs in that range, this suggestion from Ford makes perfect sense. It doesn't mean this is what will happen, but there is logic to it.

This is what I want for our team a year from now:

Exum / Smart, Nelson
Dipo, ____
2015 Free Agent, Harkless
Vonleh / Randle, Harris
Vuc, O'quinn

Some interesting names to target at SF in 2015 include:
Kawhi Leonard (no chance they let him go)
Kenneth Faried
Jeff Green
Draymond Green

[tiderulz]

Everyone knows Orlando's top two needs are PG and PF.

My dream scenario is for Orlando to draft Exum or Smart at #4 and work a deal with AA + #12 to move up and grab Vonleh or Randle.

However, it is difficult to build a mock draft which incorporates unannounced trades and those quickly become even more unrealistic than the original mock draft. So considering the PGs expected to be available at #12 are far more exciting than the PFs in that range, this suggestion from Ford makes perfect sense. It doesn't mean this is what will happen, but there is logic to it.

This is what I want for our team a year from now:

Exum / Smart, Nelson
Dipo, ____
2015 Free Agent, Harkless
Vonleh / Randle, Harris
Vuc, O'quinn

Some interesting names to target at SF in 2015 include:
Kawhi Leonard (no chance they let him go)
Kenneth Faried
Jeff Green
Draymond Green

Faried isnt a SF and would be horrible if forced to play there. And i am probably in the minority, that while i think Kawhi is a decent player, i dont think he is this star that some people think he is (not that you are saying that)

[MagicFan101]

Everyone knows Orlando's top two needs are PG and PF.

My dream scenario is for Orlando to draft Exum or Smart at #4 and work a deal with AA + #12 to move up and grab Vonleh or Randle.

However, it is difficult to build a mock draft which incorporates unannounced trades and those quickly become even more unrealistic than the original mock draft. So considering the PGs expected to be available at #12 are far more exciting than the PFs in that range, this suggestion from Ford makes perfect sense. It doesn't mean this is what will happen, but there is logic to it.

This is what I want for our team a year from now:

Exum / Smart, Nelson
Dipo, ____
2015 Free Agent, Harkless
Vonleh / Randle, Harris
Vuc, O'quinn

Some interesting names to target at SF in 2015 include:
Kawhi Leonard (no chance they let him go)
Kenneth Faried
Jeff Green
Draymond Green

Faried isnt a SF and would be horrible if forced to play there. And i am probably in the minority, that while i think Kawhi is a decent player, i dont think he is this star that some people think he is (not that you are saying that)

You're right. I hesitated to put Faried on that list but I'm not an expert on his game so I tossed the name out there.

I really like Leonard and I would love to add him to a young team. But I agree with you that he lacks the spark of a super star. Still, that doesn't mean I wouldn't make a run at him...

The Green boys appear to be the most likely targets. I am sure GS loves Draymond but how much can they pay him? They likely have to handle Klay Thompson that summer as well and they are already at $51 M in salaries that year. We might be able to jump in and out bid them.

[ezzzp]

Everyone knows Orlando's top two needs are PG and PF.

My dream scenario is for Orlando to draft Exum or Smart at #4 and work a deal with AA + #12 to move up and grab Vonleh or Randle.

However, it is difficult to build a mock draft which incorporates unannounced trades and those quickly become even more unrealistic than the original mock draft. So considering the PGs expected to be available at #12 are far more exciting than the PFs in that range, this suggestion from Ford makes perfect sense. It doesn't mean this is what will happen, but there is logic to it.

This is what I want for our team a year from now:

Exum / Smart, Nelson
Dipo, ____
2015 Free Agent, Harkless
Vonleh / Randle, Harris
Vuc, O'quinn

Some interesting names to target at SF in 2015 include:
Kawhi Leonard (no chance they let him go)
Kenneth Faried
Jeff Green
Draymond Green

Faried isnt a SF and would be horrible if forced to play there. And i am probably in the minority, that while i think Kawhi is a decent player, i dont think he is this star that some people think he is (not that you are saying that)

You're right. I hesitated to put Faried on that list but I'm not an expert on his game so I tossed the name out there.

I really like Leonard and I would love to add him to a young team. But I agree with you that he lacks the spark of a super star. Still, that doesn't mean I wouldn't make a run at him...

The Green boys appear to be the most likely targets. I am sure GS loves Draymond but how much can they pay him? They likely have to handle Klay Thompson that summer as well and they are already at $51 M in salaries that year. We might be able to jump in and out bid them.

we already have a pretty good 21 yr old SF putting up 15ppg/7rpg/16.5per....if a major upgrade opportunity came via the draft then ok but the Magic do not need a SF.