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Re: D'Lo Watch: All things D'Lo related 

Post#21 » by Audi » Fri Jun 7, 2019 12:56 pm

I'm afraid we missed the boat on Dlo being signed at a reasonable number - we should've had our eyes on him when he was either injured or riding the bench in BK - not after highlight playoff performances. We need to consider how likely it is over the next few years that we draft or sign a player like him. Don't want to give him the max, but we would likely need to if we really value his marked improvements, age, and timeline fit.
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Post#22 » by basketballRob » Fri Jun 7, 2019 12:59 pm

D'angelo Russell is going to get the max.

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Post#23 » by Audi » Fri Jun 7, 2019 1:05 pm

basketballRob wrote:D'angelo Russell is going to get the max.

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Highly likely. If Kyrie goes to BK I'm not sure it'll be them that does it though...
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Re: D'Lo Watch: All things D'Lo related 

Post#24 » by basketballRob » Fri Jun 7, 2019 1:06 pm

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basketballRob wrote:D'angelo Russell is going to get the max.

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Highly likely. If Kyrie goes to BK I'm not sure it'll be them that does it though...
Some team will give him the max.

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Post#25 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Fri Jun 7, 2019 1:10 pm

Skybox wrote:How much is a max deal for DLo per year?

Nets can offer him 5 year 156M starts at 27 goes up 2ish M each year.. I honestly think something like 4 year 100M could get it done IF kyrie signs and they go after another star.

I'm also under the impression that them keeping dinwiddie kyrie dlo LaVert while having a GAPING hole at the SF/PF spot won't happen. SO really I think we just need Kyrie to sign and then call Brooklyn's bluff
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Post#26 » by MagicFan101 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 1:13 pm

GMs say the darndest things this time of year. So don’t believe everything.

But the Nets are saying they fully believe DLo and Kyrie can play together.

If nothing else it is worth the experiment. I mean, will there be a lack of trade suites for DLo a year from now when he is locked into a secure deal?
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Post#27 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Fri Jun 7, 2019 1:30 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:GMs say the darndest things this time of year. So don’t believe everything.

But the Nets are saying they fully believe DLo and Kyrie can play together.

If nothing else it is worth the experiment. I mean, will there be a lack of trade suites for DLo a year from now when he is locked into a secure deal?


Don't see DLo enjoying playing with ball thumping Kyrie what so ever. Seems like wherever Kyrie goes trouble in the locker room seems to follow.
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Post#28 » by Max Power » Fri Jun 7, 2019 1:39 pm

Love the angelic talk about DeAngelo Russel, a guy jettisoned from the Lakers for exposing a teammates extra marital affair. Go for Kemba.
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Post#29 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:01 pm

Max Power wrote:Love the angelic talk about DeAngelo Russel, a guy jettisoned from the Lakers for exposing a teammates extra marital affair. Go for Kemba.



Who cares, he has reinvented himself and he would be the best guard on this team by a mile. That said, this sounds unrealistic for us.
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Post#30 » by OrlandoNed » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:11 pm

Max Power wrote:Love the angelic talk about DeAngelo Russel, a guy jettisoned from the Lakers for exposing a teammates extra marital affair. Go for Kemba.

A kid made a mistake, how unforgivable.

I don't give a flying fart about him making an ass out of himself exposing a douchebag moron like Nick Young doing Nick Young things. The Lakers stupidly gave up on a 2nd overall pick to dump the Mozgov contract they stupidly signed and the Young incident was just a convenient excuse to cover their asses.
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Post#31 » by ezzzp » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:29 pm

Max Power wrote:Love the angelic talk about DeAngelo Russell, a guy jettisoned from the Lakers for exposing a teammates extra marital affair. Go for Kemba.


It wasn't malicious, just bad judgement and immature. Its the type of bs that happens when a dysfunctional franchise lets a guy like Nick Young infect the lockeroom of a very young core. Same type of nonsense that Nick Young and the young Wizard core learned from another notorious poor locker room influencer, Gilbert Arenas.

There was a concern that Russell would continue to be byproduct of that dysfunctional LA locker room and bb culture. But it appears that Sean Marks and Kenny Atkinson has salvaged Russell from turning into that type of player.

Only time will tell, and what type of locker room he ends up in next contract is very important from that perspective.

Clifford and WelHam don't strike me as guys that puts up with that type of locker room. They seem like 24-7 professionalism and all-business types to me.
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Post#32 » by MagicFan101 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:40 pm

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MagicFan101 wrote:GMs say the darndest things this time of year. So don’t believe everything.

But the Nets are saying they fully believe DLo and Kyrie can play together.

If nothing else it is worth the experiment. I mean, will there be a lack of trade suites for DLo a year from now when he is locked into a secure deal?


Don't see DLo enjoying playing with ball thumping Kyrie what so ever. Seems like wherever Kyrie goes trouble in the locker room seems to follow.


Paul George had no interest in OKC.

Kawhi Leonard had no interest in Toronto.

My point isn’t that it did or didn’t work in those cases but that the GMs didn’t care ... they still have big egos and think they can make it work.
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Post#33 » by cedric76 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:04 pm

Not gonna happen, can we close this?
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Post#34 » by OrlandoDream » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:19 pm

Let Vuc walk, trade fournier and go all in on DLO! This would be a no brainer but I think another team offer him more money.
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Post#35 » by PrimeThyme » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:22 pm

Audi wrote:I'm afraid we missed the boat on Dlo being signed at a reasonable number - we should've had our eyes on him when he was either injured or riding the bench in BK - not after highlight playoff performances. We need to consider how likely it is over the next few years that we draft or sign a player like him. Don't want to give him the max, but we would likely need to if we really value his marked improvements, age, and timeline fit.

He won't be getting paid off of anything he did in the playoffs. Yes, he scored 19ppg but did it with a 35 fg% and 32 3pt fg% while posting a -5.1 BPM (-4.9 obpm, 89 ortg, 117 drtg) for that series. He largely got exposed and showed why there is no world where I would consider giving him a max contract. I would max Vuc before I maxed D-lo and I have no interest in doing that either.
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Post#36 » by OrlandoDream » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:29 pm

PrimeThyme wrote:
Audi wrote:I'm afraid we missed the boat on Dlo being signed at a reasonable number - we should've had our eyes on him when he was either injured or riding the bench in BK - not after highlight playoff performances. We need to consider how likely it is over the next few years that we draft or sign a player like him. Don't want to give him the max, but we would likely need to if we really value his marked improvements, age, and timeline fit.

He won't be getting paid off of anything he did in the playoffs. Yes, he scored 19ppg but did it with a 35 fg% and 32 3pt fg% while posting a -5.1 BPM (-4.9 obpm, 89 ortg, 117 drtg) for that series. He largely got exposed and showed why there is no world where I would consider giving him a max contract. I would max Vuc before I maxed D-lo and I have no interest in doing that either.

Should we pull up the numbers on Vuc and how Gasol completely exposed him?
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Post#37 » by j-ragg » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:30 pm

I like Russell. I’d be cool with it. I wish Levert was a free agent this summer though. He’d be a perfect wing for us. Russell would be fine but still doesn’t address our biggest need, an elite wing creator. But they don’t grow on trees, and if Russell wanted to come here I’d be happy we’d have a more modern team.
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Post#38 » by PrimeThyme » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:48 pm

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Audi wrote:I'm afraid we missed the boat on Dlo being signed at a reasonable number - we should've had our eyes on him when he was either injured or riding the bench in BK - not after highlight playoff performances. We need to consider how likely it is over the next few years that we draft or sign a player like him. Don't want to give him the max, but we would likely need to if we really value his marked improvements, age, and timeline fit.

He won't be getting paid off of anything he did in the playoffs. Yes, he scored 19ppg but did it with a 35 fg% and 32 3pt fg% while posting a -5.1 BPM (-4.9 obpm, 89 ortg, 117 drtg) for that series. He largely got exposed and showed why there is no world where I would consider giving him a max contract. I would max Vuc before I maxed D-lo and I have no interest in doing that either.

Should we pull up the numbers on Vuc and how Gasol completely exposed him?

Go for it. Vuc obviously won't be getting paid off his playoff performance either. He was arguably a top 10-20 player with the stats he put up this year though. Raptors are also arguably the best defense in the league and Gasol is one of if not the best post defender in the NBA.

Its easier for me to justify Vuc's poor playoff performance than it is for me to justify D-lo's as his was mostly a product of awful shot selection which is something that has plagued him most of his career.
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Post#39 » by VFX » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:48 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:GMs say the darndest things this time of year. So don’t believe everything.

But the Nets are saying they fully believe DLo and Kyrie can play together.

If nothing else it is worth the experiment. I mean, will there be a lack of trade suites for DLo a year from now when he is locked into a secure deal?


Don't see DLo enjoying playing with ball thumping Kyrie what so ever. Seems like wherever Kyrie goes trouble in the locker room seems to follow.


It’s not as much DLO and Kyrie. To me it has more to do with DLO, Kyrie, Lavert, Dinwiddie, Prince, and Harris. They will have to move one or some to balance out their roster now that they gave away their pick.
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Post#40 » by VFX » Fri Jun 7, 2019 5:14 pm

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OrlandoDream wrote:
PrimeThyme wrote:He won't be getting paid off of anything he did in the playoffs. Yes, he scored 19ppg but did it with a 35 fg% and 32 3pt fg% while posting a -5.1 BPM (-4.9 obpm, 89 ortg, 117 drtg) for that series. He largely got exposed and showed why there is no world where I would consider giving him a max contract. I would max Vuc before I maxed D-lo and I have no interest in doing that either.

Should we pull up the numbers on Vuc and how Gasol completely exposed him?

Go for it. Vuc obviously won't be getting paid off his playoff performance either. He was arguably a top 10-20 player with the stats he put up this year though. Raptors are also arguably the best defense in the league and Gasol is one of if not the best post defender in the NBA.

Its easier for me to justify Vuc's poor playoff performance than it is for me to justify D-lo's as his was mostly a product of awful shot selection which is something that has plagued him most of his career.


But which one of DLO or Vuc will benefit us more moving forward? If that’s what it came down to, I think the choice is obvious.

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