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Re: Official Speculation Thread: Growth Of Young Players 

Post#21 » by golfreak » Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:22 am

Okeke actually looked pretty good in the starting lineup last couple of games.
If only he can improve his 3-pt shooting, he can be a cheap 3&D player.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: Growth Of Young Players 

Post#22 » by fendilim » Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:05 pm

golfreak wrote:Okeke actually looked pretty good in the starting lineup last couple of games.
If only he can improve his 3-pt shooting, he can be a cheap 3&D player.

He projects to be a good 3&d player right out of college. Just havent gotten the opportunity, and he usually starts the season slow.

His STOCKS numbers are great and is a respectable shooter coming out of college. With more repetition, he’ll carve out a niche in the league

With the analytics favoring STOCKS, I would’t be surprised if he gets moved to a championship contender soon. Those stats are valuable and his shooting is respectable too.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: Growth Of Young Players 

Post#23 » by Nyce_1 » Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:44 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:I figured out who Franz reminds me of: Manu. He plays like a 6'10" Manu.

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Post#25 » by RookieStar » Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:52 pm

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Optimus_Steel wrote:I figured out who Franz reminds me of: Manu. He plays like a 6'10" Manu.

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Typical white guy for white guy comparison :D .

Franz reminds me of better Kyle Anderson


Actually... the way Franz drives, sidesteps and lays it in is ALL peak-Manu. So I can see where that comes from.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: Growth Of Young Players 

Post#26 » by SOUL » Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:56 pm

Yeah, I agree. Bigger Manu is a great comp. Just so happens they're both white lol
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: Growth Of Young Players 

Post#27 » by RookieStar » Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:06 pm

SOUL wrote:Yeah, I agree. Bigger Manu is a great comp. Just so happens they're both white lol


AND if you read internet conspiracy theories... they are both German ( wink wink )
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Post#28 » by fendilim » Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:34 am

RookieStar wrote:
SOUL wrote:Yeah, I agree. Bigger Manu is a great comp. Just so happens they're both white lol


AND if you read internet conspiracy theories... they are both German ( wink wink )

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Re: Official Speculation Thread: Growth Of Young Players 

Post#29 » by richi_v25 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:26 am

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golfreak wrote:Okeke actually looked pretty good in the starting lineup last couple of games.
If only he can improve his 3-pt shooting, he can be a cheap 3&D player.

He projects to be a good 3&d player right out of college. Just havent gotten the opportunity, and he usually starts the season slow.

His STOCKS numbers are great and is a respectable shooter coming out of college. With more repetition, he’ll carve out a niche in the league

With the analytics favoring STOCKS, I would’t be surprised if he gets moved to a championship contender soon. Those stats are valuable and his shooting is respectable too.


Never watched him in college did he ever drive to the basket or mostly camped out on the 3 pt line? I wish he would use his size and attack the rim more but maybe after seeing what happened to his teammates he's worried about another major injury?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: Growth Of Young Players 

Post#30 » by fendilim » Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:34 am

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fendilim wrote:
golfreak wrote:Okeke actually looked pretty good in the starting lineup last couple of games.
If only he can improve his 3-pt shooting, he can be a cheap 3&D player.

He projects to be a good 3&d player right out of college. Just havent gotten the opportunity, and he usually starts the season slow.

His STOCKS numbers are great and is a respectable shooter coming out of college. With more repetition, he’ll carve out a niche in the league

With the analytics favoring STOCKS, I would’t be surprised if he gets moved to a championship contender soon. Those stats are valuable and his shooting is respectable too.


Never watched him in college did he ever drive to the basket or mostly camped out on the 3 pt line? I wish he would use his size and attack the rim more but maybe after seeing what happened to his teammates he's worried about another major injury?

Can drive and post up too. Not really an iso guy tho
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Post#31 » by KillMonger » Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:47 am

SOUL wrote:Yeah, I agree. Bigger Manu is a great comp. Just so happens they're both white lol

i made that comparison and pepe roasted me....so it's nice to see someone else saw what i saw in franz
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Post#32 » by YosemiteSam » Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:11 am

I really like Chuma’s D, size and mobility in the starting lineup. When Paolo comes back I’d consider moving Bol to the bench and letting him score against 2nd stringers. Chuma isn’t one our our best five players but he may fit better with the starters just like Mikael Bridges or Dillon Brooks. So start Suggs/Franz/Chuma/Paolo/Carter and bench is Bol/Ross/Hampton/Bamba/Houstan. When guys come back move them into 2nd unit. Imagine a 2nd unit of Fultz/G Harris/Ross/Isaac/Bol. Anthony would be the best 11th man in the league.
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Post#33 » by zaymon » Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:41 am

YosemiteSam wrote:I really like Chuma’s D, size and mobility in the starting lineup. When Paolo comes back I’d consider moving Bol to the bench and letting him score against 2nd stringers. Chuma isn’t one our our best five players but he may fit better with the starters just like Mikael Bridges or Dillon Brooks. So start Suggs/Franz/Chuma/Paolo/Carter and bench is Bol/Ross/Hampton/Bamba/Houstan. When guys come back move them into 2nd unit. Imagine a 2nd unit of Fultz/G Harris/Ross/Isaac/Bol. Anthony would be the best 11th man in the league.


This is the way. I have mixed feeling about Bol becouse he provides rim protection next to Banchero and Franz but on the other hand he is easly exploitable 1 vs 1 and hunted by better scorers. I like him the most next to Banchero when Franz an Carter are resting.
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
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Post#34 » by pepe1991 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:40 pm

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SOUL wrote:Yeah, I agree. Bigger Manu is a great comp. Just so happens they're both white lol

i made that comparison and pepe roasted me....so it's nice to see someone else saw what i saw in franz


Lol what? When? I just searched in your and mine history, and i can't find anything.

Last time you mentioned Ginobili was "Poor man's GInobili" for Karim Mane :lol:

And last time i mentioned Ginobili it was in some context of shooting motion for players who shoot with left hand :lol:

Maybe i did, but i don't remember , nor my history does :lol:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: Growth Of Young Players 

Post#35 » by KillMonger » Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:45 pm

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KillMonger wrote:
SOUL wrote:Yeah, I agree. Bigger Manu is a great comp. Just so happens they're both white lol

i made that comparison and pepe roasted me....so it's nice to see someone else saw what i saw in franz


Lol what? When? I just searched in your and mine history, and i can't find anything.

Last time you mentioned Ginobili was "Poor man's GInobili" for Karim Mane :lol:

And last time i mentioned Ginobili it was in some context of shooting motion for players who shoot with left hand :lol:

Maybe i did, but i don't remember , nor my history does :lol:

it probably wasn't you then my apologies, it was when i had a different name/ different account
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Post#36 » by anothermagicfan » Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:17 pm

zaymon wrote:
YosemiteSam wrote:I really like Chuma’s D, size and mobility in the starting lineup. When Paolo comes back I’d consider moving Bol to the bench and letting him score against 2nd stringers. Chuma isn’t one our our best five players but he may fit better with the starters just like Mikael Bridges or Dillon Brooks. So start Suggs/Franz/Chuma/Paolo/Carter and bench is Bol/Ross/Hampton/Bamba/Houstan. When guys come back move them into 2nd unit. Imagine a 2nd unit of Fultz/G Harris/Ross/Isaac/Bol. Anthony would be the best 11th man in the league.


This is the way. I have mixed feeling about Bol becouse he provides rim protection next to Banchero and Franz but on the other hand he is easly exploitable 1 vs 1 and hunted by better scorers. I like him the most next to Banchero when Franz an Carter are resting.



This is becoming a very interesting group of players to watch. When fultz and Isaac come back the lineup could go a bunch of different directions. I've been advocating for chuma to be in the starting lineup all offseason and not seen much support here. He is the best defender on the team. Suggs and Isaac are really good too.

Imagine a lineup of
Suggs/fultz/cole
Franz/Ross/RJ
Chuma/Bol
PB/WCJ/mo w
Isaac/Bamba/mo w

I hate the idea of fultz not starting but he showed last year that he can play with anyone and that second group is a pretty impressive group. I could easily see rj replacing Ross. His shooting is pretty good and his defense is much better.

Now this starting group has 3 outstanding individual and help defenders and 2 guys that are very talented offensively without giving up anything on the defensive end.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: Growth Of Young Players 

Post#37 » by NavalAviator94 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:35 pm

RookieStar wrote:
SOUL wrote:Yeah, I agree. Bigger Manu is a great comp. Just so happens they're both white lol


AND if you read internet conspiracy theories... they are both German ( wink wink )


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Post#38 » by NavalAviator94 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:44 pm

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YosemiteSam wrote:I really like Chuma’s D, size and mobility in the starting lineup. When Paolo comes back I’d consider moving Bol to the bench and letting him score against 2nd stringers. Chuma isn’t one our our best five players but he may fit better with the starters just like Mikael Bridges or Dillon Brooks. So start Suggs/Franz/Chuma/Paolo/Carter and bench is Bol/Ross/Hampton/Bamba/Houstan. When guys come back move them into 2nd unit. Imagine a 2nd unit of Fultz/G Harris/Ross/Isaac/Bol. Anthony would be the best 11th man in the league.


This is the way. I have mixed feeling about Bol becouse he provides rim protection next to Banchero and Franz but on the other hand he is easly exploitable 1 vs 1 and hunted by better scorers. I like him the most next to Banchero when Franz an Carter are resting.



This is becoming a very interesting group of players to watch. When fultz and Isaac come back the lineup could go a bunch of different directions. I've been advocating for chuma to be in the starting lineup all offseason and not seen much support here. He is the best defender on the team. Suggs and Isaac are really good too.

Imagine a lineup of
Suggs/fultz/cole
Franz/Ross/RJ
Chuma/Bol
PB/WCJ/mo w
Isaac/Bamba/mo w

I hate the idea of fultz not starting but he showed last year that he can play with anyone and that second group is a pretty impressive group. I could easily see rj replacing Ross. His shooting is pretty good and his defense is much better.

Now this starting group has 3 outstanding individual and help defenders and 2 guys that are very talented offensively without giving up anything on the defensive end.


I think the answer to me is Bol needs to play with someone who can distribute, and the only real distributor is Franz. If Fultz ends up starting, Bol needs to be in that unit. If he remains on the bench then I could see Bol making that move.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: Growth Of Young Players 

Post#39 » by Skybox » Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:20 pm

anothermagicfan wrote:
zaymon wrote:
YosemiteSam wrote:I really like Chuma’s D, size and mobility in the starting lineup. When Paolo comes back I’d consider moving Bol to the bench and letting him score against 2nd stringers. Chuma isn’t one our our best five players but he may fit better with the starters just like Mikael Bridges or Dillon Brooks. So start Suggs/Franz/Chuma/Paolo/Carter and bench is Bol/Ross/Hampton/Bamba/Houstan. When guys come back move them into 2nd unit. Imagine a 2nd unit of Fultz/G Harris/Ross/Isaac/Bol. Anthony would be the best 11th man in the league.


This is the way. I have mixed feeling about Bol becouse he provides rim protection next to Banchero and Franz but on the other hand he is easly exploitable 1 vs 1 and hunted by better scorers. I like him the most next to Banchero when Franz an Carter are resting.



This is becoming a very interesting group of players to watch. When fultz and Isaac come back the lineup could go a bunch of different directions. I've been advocating for chuma to be in the starting lineup all offseason and not seen much support here. He is the best defender on the team. Suggs and Isaac are really good too.

Imagine a lineup of
Suggs/fultz/cole
Franz/Ross/RJ
Chuma/Bol
PB/WCJ/mo w
Isaac/Bamba/mo w

I hate the idea of fultz not starting but he showed last year that he can play with anyone and that second group is a pretty impressive group. I could easily see rj replacing Ross. His shooting is pretty good and his defense is much better.

Now this starting group has 3 outstanding individual and help defenders and 2 guys that are very talented offensively without giving up anything on the defensive end.


You left off the only reliable shooter on the team :lol: Gary Harris...I really do like the potential of our roster but, Cole's too good to be that deep on a roster, so we should move him for a shooter. I'm really a fan, I just don't see him ahead of Fultz or Suggs and I don't see him as a SG...it's a good problem to have and to do something with. Same with Bamba. Neither has a good slot in this roster (as it projects).
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: Growth Of Young Players 

Post#40 » by drsd » Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:26 pm

golfreak wrote:Okeke actually looked pretty good in the starting lineup last couple of games.
If only he can improve his 3-pt shooting, he can be a cheap 3&D player.


Okeke was Mr. Lockdown these last two games. And the Magic did what in both?


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