Og ANUNOBY

[pepe1991]

It's dumb investment to give 2 picks for player that has 1 year left on his deal before he has player's option for next year.

[JF5]

He's the guy I've wanted the last few months.

If the 6th pick remains the 6th pick and there is nobody in the draft we're targeting. Move that plus Bol/Harris/Future 1st for him.

[JF5]

It's dumb investment to give 2 picks for player that has 1 year left on his deal before he has player's option for next year.

You're smarter than that. These deals don't happen unless there is a new deal structured upon arrival. Anything less assets aren't being thrown around like crazy.

[jezzerinho]

It's dumb investment to give 2 picks for player that has 1 year left on his deal before he has player's option for next year.

You're smarter than that. These deals don't happen unless there is a new deal structured upon arrival. Anything less assets aren't being thrown around like crazy.

I've been wondering if Orlando might throw a boatload at a FVV/OG sign and trade combo. Depends a lot how well they get on, given the signs of tensions in the Raps camp. My guess is Scottie is the issue.

[JF5]

It's dumb investment to give 2 picks for player that has 1 year left on his deal before he has player's option for next year.

You're smarter than that. These deals don't happen unless there is a new deal structured upon arrival. Anything less assets aren't being thrown around like crazy.

I've been wondering if Orlando might throw a boatload at a FVV/OG sign and trade combo. Depends a lot how well they get on, given the signs of tensions in the Raps camp. My guess is Scottie is the issue.

I'm willing to take FVV if OG is in the deal. I'm very weary to take on FVV alone because it looks like he's already declining. OG would be the centerpiece in any deal.

[Bakomagic]

It's dumb investment to give 2 picks for player that has 1 year left on his deal before he has player's option for next year.

You're smarter than that. These deals don't happen unless there is a new deal structured upon arrival. Anything less assets aren't being thrown around like crazy.

Yea, this is too broad of a statement. There is nuance to this. Obviously considerations would need to be made regarding his contract and willingness to resign and what not.

It’s not like they will blindly make a trade without figuring that out or at least be very confident in the result.

[AaronB]

OG is a slightly above average defender, and slightly below average shooter and a really bad playmaker for others.

He is an average 3&D guy. Anyone giving up 3 1st's probably had really bad contracts associated with the offer.

He benefited greatly from a system of defense that is not sustainable in the NBA.

When they acquired a real Center, OG was exposed for being an average to slightly above average defender.

The Bulls abused him in the play-in game. That was ugly.

Nice player, but not worth anything special.

[Bergmaniac]

OG is a slightly above average defender, and slightly below average shooter and a really bad playmaker for others.

He is an average 3&D guy. Anyone giving up 3 1st's probably had really bad contracts associated with the offer.

He benefited greatly from a system of defense that is not sustainable in the NBA.

When they acquired a real Center, OG was exposed for being an average to slightly above average defender.

The Bulls abused him in the play-in game. That was ugly.

The Raptors defense was excellent this season when Poeltl and OG were playing together.

Even in the play-in, where the Bulls supposedly "abused" him, the Raptors had a fantastic defensive rating of 92.4 when they were both on the court.

[pepe1991]

It's dumb investment to give 2 picks for player that has 1 year left on his deal before he has player's option for next year.

You're smarter than that. These deals don't happen unless there is a new deal structured upon arrival. Anything less assets aren't being thrown around like crazy.

He will still leverage his UFA status to squeeze most money possible out of his next contract.

And let's be objective, what's money he will ask? Wiggins like resign? 4 years $109M? That's base .

He can also get 5 years without getting max on Raptors now.

[JF5]

OG is a slightly above average defender, and slightly below average shooter and a really bad playmaker for others.

He is an average 3&D guy. Anyone giving up 3 1st's probably had really bad contracts associated with the offer.

He benefited greatly from a system of defense that is not sustainable in the NBA.

When they acquired a real Center, OG was exposed for being an average to slightly above average defender.

The Bulls abused him in the play-in game. That was ugly.

Nice player, but not worth anything special.

He's getting DPOY considerations... He's an All World Defender and easily the best perimeter defender in the league. Also, averages 16.8 PPG off 47.6 percent from the floor and 38.7 percent from 3.

He's far from just "above average" 3&D guy.

[AaronB]

OG is a slightly above average defender, and slightly below average shooter and a really bad playmaker for others.

He is an average 3&D guy. Anyone giving up 3 1st's probably had really bad contracts associated with the offer.

He benefited greatly from a system of defense that is not sustainable in the NBA.

When they acquired a real Center, OG was exposed for being an average to slightly above average defender.

The Bulls abused him in the play-in game. That was ugly.

The Raptors defense was excellent this season when Poeltl and OG were playing together.

Even in the play-in, where the Bulls supposedly "abused" him, the Raptors had a fantastic defensive rating of 92.4 when they were both on the court.

Zach Lavigne scored 39 on him. That is called abuse.

Are you telling me OG was covering White?

[AaronB]

OG is a slightly above average defender, and slightly below average shooter and a really bad playmaker for others.

He is an average 3&D guy. Anyone giving up 3 1st's probably had really bad contracts associated with the offer.

He benefited greatly from a system of defense that is not sustainable in the NBA.

When they acquired a real Center, OG was exposed for being an average to slightly above average defender.

The Bulls abused him in the play-in game. That was ugly.

Nice player, but not worth anything special.

He's getting DPOY considerations... He's an All World Defender and easily the best perimeter defender in the league. Also, averages 16.8 PPG off 47.6 percent from the floor and 38.7 percent from 3.

He's far from just "above average" 3&D guy.

He is not getting DOPY consideration.

They released the 3 finalists and he is not there.

All world defender who gets torched for 39 does not pass the smell test.

Again, he is a nice player who is slightly above average defenseless (did I mention 39 points?0 .

[JF5]

It's dumb investment to give 2 picks for player that has 1 year left on his deal before he has player's option for next year.

You're smarter than that. These deals don't happen unless there is a new deal structured upon arrival. Anything less assets aren't being thrown around like crazy.

He will still leverage his UFA status to squeeze most money possible out of his next contract.

And let's be objective, what's money he will ask? Wiggins like resign? 4 years $109M? That's base .

He can also get 5 years without getting max on Raptors now.

My point is that rarely ever happens. There have only been 3 situations in the last 15 years where wasn't a deal in place with the incoming centerpiece didn't sign a new contract with their new team on the last year of their contract.

Dwight in 2012, Kawhii in 2018, Kyrie in 2023. And usually that team is very desperate and are in win now situation.

[JF5]

OG is a slightly above average defender, and slightly below average shooter and a really bad playmaker for others.

He is an average 3&D guy. Anyone giving up 3 1st's probably had really bad contracts associated with the offer.

He benefited greatly from a system of defense that is not sustainable in the NBA.

When they acquired a real Center, OG was exposed for being an average to slightly above average defender.

The Bulls abused him in the play-in game. That was ugly.

Nice player, but not worth anything special.

He's getting DPOY considerations... He's an All World Defender and easily the best perimeter defender in the league. Also, averages 16.8 PPG off 47.6 percent from the floor and 38.7 percent from 3.

He's far from just "above average" 3&D guy.

All world defender who gets torched for 39 does not pass the smell test.

Again, he is a nice player who is slightly above average defenseless (did I mention 39 points?0 .

So one game determines a player's impact? Especially those opposing players are All-Star Caliber players? Good to know...

That's like saying Kawhi Leonard was not one of the best defenders in the league because LeBron James dropped 34-35 point averages in both 2013 and 2014 finals.

Or Dennis Rodman was complete garbage defensively because he couldn't stop Michael Jordan from scoring 35-40 points when Detroit played Chicago in the 80s.

[AaronB]

He's getting DPOY considerations... He's an All World Defender and easily the best perimeter defender in the league. Also, averages 16.8 PPG off 47.6 percent from the floor and 38.7 percent from 3.

He's far from just "above average" 3&D guy.

All world defender who gets torched for 39 does not pass the smell test.

Again, he is a nice player who is slightly above average defenseless (did I mention 39 points?0 .

So one game determines a player's impact? Especially those opposing players are All-Star Caliber players? Good to know...

That's like saying Kawhi Leonard was not one of the best defenders in the league because LeBron James dropped 34-35 point averages in both 2013 and 2014 finals.

Or Dennis Rodman was complete garbage defensively because he couldn't stop Michael Jordan from scoring 35-40 points when Detroit played Chicago in the 80s.

Lol

LBJ … MJ …. Zach Lavine

1 name does not fit.

Your argument is ludicrous. The most important game of the year and Zach Lavine drops down 39 on your all world defender? That is a joke.

He is a nice player, slightly above average defender, nothing more.

[cedric76]

All world defender who gets torched for 39 does not pass the smell test.

Again, he is a nice player who is slightly above average defenseless (did I mention 39 points?0 .

So one game determines a player's impact? Especially those opposing players are All-Star Caliber players? Good to know...

That's like saying Kawhi Leonard was not one of the best defenders in the league because LeBron James dropped 34-35 point averages in both 2013 and 2014 finals.

Or Dennis Rodman was complete garbage defensively because he couldn't stop Michael Jordan from scoring 35-40 points when Detroit played Chicago in the 80s.

Lol

LBJ … MJ …. Zach Lavine

1 name does not fit.

Your argument is ludicrous. The most important game of the year and Zach Lavine drops down 39 on your all world defender? That is a joke.

He is a nice player, slightly above average defender, nothing more.

I guess you didn't watch the game if you think OG was guarding Zach all game

[AaronB]

One more thing, how does a guy go from being in the league 6 years, has not been a first team or second team all defense in any year (I could be wrong, but I don’t think so) to being an “all world” defender?

Then gets 39 points dropped on him by the GOAT Zach Lavine and is still considered all world defense?

[JF5]

So one game determines a player's impact? Especially those opposing players are All-Star Caliber players? Good to know...

That's like saying Kawhi Leonard was not one of the best defenders in the league because LeBron James dropped 34-35 point averages in both 2013 and 2014 finals.

Or Dennis Rodman was complete garbage defensively because he couldn't stop Michael Jordan from scoring 35-40 points when Detroit played Chicago in the 80s.

Lol

LBJ … MJ …. Zach Lavine

1 name does not fit.

Your argument is ludicrous. The most important game of the year and Zach Lavine drops down 39 on your all world defender? That is a joke.

He is a nice player, slightly above average defender, nothing more.

I guess you didn't watch the game if you think OG was guarding Zach all game

He didn't... Demar was being guarded by OG the whole game...

Ironically, the one who picked up LaVine most of the game was VanVleet.

Watch on YouTube

This game and Zach's performance and how easily he was able to get his offense essentially showed why the hell I wanted to stay away from VanVleet.

[Bergmaniac]

OG is a slightly above average defender, and slightly below average shooter and a really bad playmaker for others.

He is an average 3&D guy. Anyone giving up 3 1st's probably had really bad contracts associated with the offer.

He benefited greatly from a system of defense that is not sustainable in the NBA.

When they acquired a real Center, OG was exposed for being an average to slightly above average defender.

The Bulls abused him in the play-in game. That was ugly.

The Raptors defense was excellent this season when Poeltl and OG were playing together.

Even in the play-in, where the Bulls supposedly "abused" him, the Raptors had a fantastic defensive rating of 92.4 when they were both on the court.

Zach Lavigne scored 39 on him. That is called abuse.

Are you telling me OG was covering White?

Did you even watch the game? Fred VanVleet was on Lavine for most of the second half when he went off.

But even if OG had been on him the whole game, no defender can lock up the best NBA scorers on his own every game.

[AaronB]

So one game determines a player's impact? Especially those opposing players are All-Star Caliber players? Good to know...

That's like saying Kawhi Leonard was not one of the best defenders in the league because LeBron James dropped 34-35 point averages in both 2013 and 2014 finals.

Or Dennis Rodman was complete garbage defensively because he couldn't stop Michael Jordan from scoring 35-40 points when Detroit played Chicago in the 80s.

Lol

LBJ … MJ …. Zach Lavine

1 name does not fit.

Your argument is ludicrous. The most important game of the year and Zach Lavine drops down 39 on your all world defender? That is a joke.

He is a nice player, slightly above average defender, nothing more.

I guess you didn't watch the game if you think OG was guarding Zach all game

So you have 1 all world defender playing the SG in your starting lineup. The opposing lineup SG is abusing your team for 39 and your response is to not allow your all world defender wing cover the guy abusing your team? Not sure that actually says anything good about your all world defender.