What a run!

[JoshuaPotter]

Orlando's bench is averaging something like 50 ppg. That's all on Anthony and M-Wagner.

They both "got paid" and did what none of us predicted: got better. I would say most of the wins are on these two more than the growth of F-Wagner and Banchero, who are also clearly better (but not yet stars).

I love the depth of this team.

Excellent points as usual.

What's a typical playoff roster? 7-8 man deep?

Currently that would be....(in no order of skills)

Suggs / AB / Goga / Franz / Paulo / Mo / Cole / ? Isaac ? or WCJ ?

If the injury brigade doesn't have anything to say about it.

[eyriq]

Orlando's bench is averaging something like 50 ppg. That's all on Anthony and M-Wagner.

They both "got paid" and did what none of us predicted: got better. I would say most of the wins are on these two more than the growth of F-Wagner and Banchero, who are also clearly better (but not yet stars).

I love the depth of this team.

Excellent points as usual.

What's a typical playoff roster? 7-8 man deep?

Currently that would be....(in no order of skills)

Suggs / AB / Goga / Franz / Paulo / Mo / Cole / ? Isaac ? or WCJ ?

If the injury brigade doesn't have anything to say about it.

If I had to guess Mosley's eight man rotation for a playoff series, at full health, I'd wager it's Paolo/Franz/WCJ/Suggs/Fultz/Cole/Ingles/Isaac.

[JoshuaPotter]

Orlando's bench is averaging something like 50 ppg. That's all on Anthony and M-Wagner.

They both "got paid" and did what none of us predicted: got better. I would say most of the wins are on these two more than the growth of F-Wagner and Banchero, who are also clearly better (but not yet stars).

I love the depth of this team.

Excellent points as usual.

What's a typical playoff roster? 7-8 man deep?

Currently that would be....(in no order of skills)

Suggs / AB / Goga / Franz / Paulo / Mo / Cole / ? Isaac ? or WCJ ?

If the injury brigade doesn't have anything to say about it.

If I had to guess Mosley's eight man rotation for a playoff series, at full health, I'd wager it's Paolo/Franz/WCJ/Suggs/Fultz/Cole/Ingles/Isaac.

Omitting Mo must have been hard. Though I imagine you sub him in for the inevitably Isaac breakdown.

[drsd]

Orlando's bench is averaging something like 50 ppg. That's all on Anthony and M-Wagner.

They both "got paid" and did what none of us predicted: got better. I would say most of the wins are on these two more than the growth of F-Wagner and Banchero, who are also clearly better (but not yet stars).

I love the depth of this team.

Excellent points as usual.

What's a typical playoff roster? 7-8 man deep?

Currently that would be....(in no order of skills)

Suggs / AB / Goga / Franz / Paulo / Mo / Cole / ? Isaac ? or WCJ ?

If the injury brigade doesn't have anything to say about it.

And-1

Though: I cannot see the Magic changing the healthy depth chart of:

Fultz/Anthony
Suggs/G-Harris
F-Wagner/Ingles
Banchero/Isaac
Carter/M-Wagner

There is little doubt the Magic cannot shorten the roster. Add Black and Bitadze also adding playoff minutes.
Depth is how the Magic win games; that can't change come playoffs.


In conclusion: I LOVEeeeee we are discussing playoffs 20 games in to this season.


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[JoshuaPotter]

Orlando's bench is averaging something like 50 ppg. That's all on Anthony and M-Wagner.

They both "got paid" and did what none of us predicted: got better. I would say most of the wins are on these two more than the growth of F-Wagner and Banchero, who are also clearly better (but not yet stars).

I love the depth of this team.

Excellent points as usual.

What's a typical playoff roster? 7-8 man deep?

Currently that would be....(in no order of skills)

Suggs / AB / Goga / Franz / Paulo / Mo / Cole / ? Isaac ? or WCJ ?

If the injury brigade doesn't have anything to say about it.

And-1

Though: I cannot see the Magic changing the healthy depth chart of:

Fultz/Anthony
Suggs/G-Harris
F-Wagner/Ingles
Banchero/Isaac
Carter/M-Wagner

There is little doubt the Magic cannot shorten the roster. Add Black and Bitadze also adding playoff minutes.
Depth is how the Magic win games; that can't change come playoffs.


In conclusion: I LOVEeeeee we are discussing [u]playoffs 20 games in to this season.[/u]


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Indeed and it is part of our overall conundrum. How do we....in short, leverage our depth into an advantage in the playoff while still keeping cohesion and synergy.

Mose would likely call it "play by committee" which is fine. Reason why I didn't include Fultz + WCJ on my OG depth chart is they are injured and just like Isaac there is a chance that come playoff time that does not change.

But that is also the benefit of the depth chart so there is that. I just would be discouraged for Goga / AB to be such a big part of our current record. Only to be sat in favor of player who was injured. Sometimes I think that cost us a game or 2 in the NBA finals. Right choices, wrong reasons.

[OrlandoSaban]

I would rather watch this team win 30 games in a season than Buddy Ball win 50.

That was barely basketball IMO

That's gotta be the dumbest comment i have ever read on here

[AaronB]

I would rather watch this team win 30 games in a season than Buddy Ball win 50.

That was barely basketball IMO

That's gotta be the dumbest comment i have ever read on here

It might have been, right up until your comment.

I guarantee that on this board the vast majority would rather watch an ultra young aggressive team win 30 than buddy ball win 50.

Buddy ball was a loser come playoff time and as boring as the hot place.

[Skybox]

I would rather watch this team win 30 games in a season than Buddy Ball win 50.

That was barely basketball IMO

That's gotta be the dumbest comment i have ever read on here

That's always been the weakest, most tiresome take for a crappy team that had only two legit offensive threats that dragged them to the playoffs...Glad we don't have to hear it anymore. But wait

[JoshuaPotter]

I would rather watch this team win 30 games in a season than Buddy Ball win 50.

That was barely basketball IMO

That's gotta be the dumbest comment i have ever read on here

It might have been, right up until your comment.

I guarantee that on this board the vast majority would rather watch an ultra young aggressive team win 30 than buddy ball win 50.

Buddy ball was a loser come playoff time and as boring as the hot place.

Buddy ball? What did I miss?

[AaronB]

EF’s post buddy ball career does not scream “legit offensive threat”. It was still the most boring treadmill basketball ever invented.

[AaronB]

That's gotta be the dumbest comment i have ever read on here

It might have been, right up until your comment.

I guarantee that on this board the vast majority would rather watch an ultra young aggressive team win 30 than buddy ball win 50.

Buddy ball was a loser come playoff time and as boring as the hot place.

Buddy ball? What did I miss?

Buddy ball was the 2 man game employed by the Magic prior to the recent dismantling. It normally consisted of a 2 man game between Vic and EF and was great for their stats padding but it excluded (mostly) the contribution of all other players.

It was good enough to win about 38 to 39 games but not good enough to do anything in the playoffs nor did it help in any of the development of players outside of the buddies.

Most of the other players stood around and watched the buddies play. People tried to call it spacing, but without cutting, spacing is just watching. Most boring basketball ever invented.

[AaronB]

The only good thing about buddy ball is that it padded Vuc’s stats enough for the Magic to get Wagner.

[OrlandoSaban]

It might have been, right up until your comment.

I guarantee that on this board the vast majority would rather watch an ultra young aggressive team win 30 than buddy ball win 50.

Buddy ball was a loser come playoff time and as boring as the hot place.

Buddy ball? What did I miss?

Buddy ball was the 2 man game employed by the Magic prior to the recent dismantling. It normally consisted of a 2 man game between Vic and EF and was great for their stats padding but it excluded (mostly) the contribution of all other players.

It was good enough to win about 38 to 39 games but not good enough to do anything in the playoffs nor did it help in any of the development of players outside of the buddies.

Most of the other players stood around and watched the buddies play. People tried to call it spacing, but without cutting, spacing is just watching. Most boring basketball ever invented.

Yea let’s lose 20 extra games because you don’t like buddy ball. Makes sense

Hell, while at it let’s tank again for the next decade because you don’t like buddy ball.

I don’t care what kind of ball they play as long as they are winning games but you would rather lose 20 more games a season because you don’t like buddy ball. That’s lane as a sports fan.


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[ORLMagicGirl15]

Orlando's bench is averaging something like 50 ppg. That's all on Anthony and M-Wagner.

They both "got paid" and did what none of us predicted: got better. I would say most of the wins are on these two more than the growth of F-Wagner and Banchero, who are also clearly better (but not yet stars).

I love the depth of this team.

Excellent points as usual.

What's a typical playoff roster? 7-8 man deep?

Currently that would be....(in no order of skills)

Suggs / AB / Goga / Franz / Paulo / Mo / Cole / ? Isaac ? or WCJ ?

If the injury brigade doesn't have anything to say about it.

If I had to guess Mosley's eight man rotation for a playoff series, at full health, I'd wager it's Paolo/Franz/WCJ/Suggs/Fultz/Cole/Ingles/Isaac.

No way we don't give Moe, Gary, Goga, and AB a spot in the playoffs. This eight man rotation is about to turn into 12. We have been a very unconventional team in the regular season. I don't see many teams subbing out their entire starters to put in their bench. We have that advantage, therefore we shouldn't try and change it later during the playoffs. All these guys need a chance. And I wager that we need to get Caleb some time in the RS, because I think he'll be able to help during the playoffs.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

I would rather watch this team win 30 games in a season than Buddy Ball win 50.

That was barely basketball IMO

That's gotta be the dumbest comment i have ever read on here

By "Buddy Ball" he means Vuc and Fournier, not Paolo and Franz, which they don't play buddy ball anyways.

[AaronB]

Buddy ball? What did I miss?

Buddy ball was the 2 man game employed by the Magic prior to the recent dismantling. It normally consisted of a 2 man game between Vic and EF and was great for their stats padding but it excluded (mostly) the contribution of all other players.

It was good enough to win about 38 to 39 games but not good enough to do anything in the playoffs nor did it help in any of the development of players outside of the buddies.

Most of the other players stood around and watched the buddies play. People tried to call it spacing, but without cutting, spacing is just watching. Most boring basketball ever invented.

Yea let’s lose 20 extra games because you don’t like buddy ball. Makes sense

Hell, while at it let’s tank again for the next decade because you don’t like buddy ball.

I don’t care what kind of ball they play as long as they are winning games but you would rather lose 20 more games a season because you don’t like buddy ball. That’s lane as a sports fan.


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What is lame is playing a team with no hope of anything but a first round exit as opposed to a young vibrant team with hope of being better. The perfect example is last years team which lost more games than the buddy ball team but had much better prospect of being a good team.

If you call that lame then so be it. What I call lame is being a perpetual lower end treadmill team running an offense that will never provide anything better than playin basketball or 1st round loss.

I said the exact same thing last year when the Magic were a 30+ win team. I would rather watch a struggling team with the hope and possible talent of being a champion than a lower treadmill team.

[AaronB]

I would rather watch this team win 30 games in a season than Buddy Ball win 50.

That was barely basketball IMO

That's gotta be the dumbest comment i have ever read on here

By "Buddy Ball" he means Vuc and Fournier, not Paolo and Franz, which they don't play buddy ball anyways.

Paolo and Franz are the exact opposite of buddy ball. How do we know that? Players in space are cutting often to the basket looking for the pass. Buddy ball had those guys watching, not playing.

[drsd]

We have been a very unconventional team in the regular season.

And-1

Look: Zag when others zig. THis is not brain science. Orlando is winning because teams don't know how to defend Orlando over the 48 minutes.

[JoshuaPotter]

We have been a very unconventional team in the regular season.

And-1

Look: Zag when others zig. THis is not brain science. Orlando is winning because teams don't know how to defend Orlando over the 48 minutes.

Depth wise, it's hard to know when the torment will end....haha

[Audi]

We have been a very unconventional team in the regular season.

And-1

Look: Zag when others zig. THis is not brain science. Orlando is winning because teams don't know how to defend Orlando over the 48 minutes.

Honestly, when we do the unconventional thing it's historically the times we've been most successful.