Healthy Rotation Discussion

[jezzerinho]

Assuming full fitness, it'll be a 9 or10 man rotation and would be negligent for it to be anything else.

Until there's a consolidation, depth is our superpower. Wearing teams down is our modus operandi.
You do that with numbers. If you have 10 bodies that won't be hunted and/or embarrassed in the playoffs, you play 10 bodies. Assuming your surname isn't Thibodeau.

[Magicman125]

Cole gets Gary's old slot at the backup SG slot if we go 9/10 deep imo. He's been trying on defense and has had some games where we've really needed him as that spark plug and he's pulled through in clutch moments for us. I know his season stats are still bad, but I think his meaningful contributions to big wins is going to help him get past this prolonged slump he's been in.

[The-Stallion70]

Team is going to look different after the deadline imo, losing Mo was big and im not sure the team really likes having Wendell off the bench.

Goga's value has gone way up.

[mattdelray1220]

Team is going to look different after the deadline imo, losing Mo was big and im not sure the team really likes having Wendell off the bench.

Goga's value has gone way up.

You think they are going to move Goga? No chance.

[Last Guardian]

Agree with the majority. It will be hard though. Queen, Cole, TDS have done some solid things for this team and stepped up when needed.

But we probably don't have to worry as I doubt we will be fully healthy

[Bakomagic]

Thinking about some fun lineups Mose can roll out to give teams different looks.

What y’all think about a long boys lineup:

AB
TDS
Franz
P5
JI

5 guys that can handle, playmaker and ultimate switch-ability on defense.

Shooting could be an issue but all 5 are capable of knocking down open looks.

Could be a lineup we run out for small stretches and bully teams.

[BadMofoPimp]

Thinking about some fun lineups Mose can roll out to give teams different looks.

What y’all think about a long boys lineup:

AB
TDS
Franz
P5
JI

5 guys that can handle, playmaker and ultimate switch-ability on defense.

Shooting could be an issue but all 5 are capable of knocking down open looks.

Could be a lineup we run out for small stretches and bully teams.

If the opposing team doesn't have a dominate center with a small lineup, I can see this happen a few times.

[eyriq]

Eight man rotation
Guards: Suggs, KCP, AB
Forwards: Paolo, Franz, JI
Bigs: Goga, WCJ

Depending on the matchup, I think you can even swap out WCJ for someone like a Cole Anthony with mojo.

In the playoffs that rotation would likely struggle with playmaking just like last season, but there's time to correct that.

Good point. JI is transitioning to more of a 'big' role which further increases this kind of flexibility.

[RookieStar]

Eight man rotation
Guards: Suggs, KCP, AB
Forwards: Paolo, Franz, JI
Bigs: Goga, WCJ

Depending on the matchup, I think you can even swap out WCJ for someone like a Cole Anthony with mojo.

In the playoffs that rotation would likely struggle with playmaking just like last season, but there's time to correct that.

Good point. JI is transitioning to more of a 'big' role which further increases this kind of flexibility.

JI being the close end game Center works for me

[Dome]

I’m missing Mo Wagner in the discussion for the center spot, since the assumption is that everyone is healthy. Besides Goga just absolutely beasting over the past few months, one of the arguments for putting Wendell in the 2nd unit was that Mo was out and the second unit could use his offensive punch as a backup to Goga. When Mo returns (which will clearly take a long time, but still), that argument becomes less valid I think. Do you think Goga still starts in that scenario, or does Wendell move back into the starting spot?

(I’m hoping Goga keeps the nod myself. Btw did anyone else notice how it seems as if he tore his jersey off in frustration when walking to the locker room with his hip contusion in the last game? I suspect he’ll come back with a bit of a chip on his shoulder when he’s healthy again)

[Skybox]

I’m missing Mo Wagner in the discussion for the center spot, since the assumption is that everyone is healthy. Besides Goga just absolutely beasting over the past few months, one of the arguments for putting Wendell in the 2nd unit was that Mo was out and the second unit could use his offensive punch as a backup to Goga. When Mo returns (which will clearly take a long time, but still), that argument becomes less valid I think. Do you think Goga still starts in that scenario, or does Wendell move back into the starting spot?

(I’m hoping Goga keeps the nod myself. Btw did anyone else notice how it seems as if he tore his jersey off in frustration when walking to the locker room with his hip contusion in the last game? I suspect he’ll come back with a bit of a chip on his shoulder when he’s healthy again)

It would be criminal to move WCJ back into that spot (if both healthy)...I'm really supportive of the "idea" of WCJ. He's really versatile and heady, rips down BIG rebounds when we need them, and (theoretically) can spread the floor....But, he's less reliable than Isaac lately and his effort seems inconsistent...when you factor in his upcoming extension - he's no longer the great bargain he was. I'm good with moving him this summer if there's a reasonable return. If he gets his energy and aggressiveness up, I love the idea that he backs up 4 and 5 and kills second units every night with double doubles off the bench. He's versatile enough to pair with any of our bigs - which is really valuable.

[RichCollab]

Given bigs for a lot of teams miss games I’m not opposed to keeping all of ours.

Paolo/JI
Goga/ Moe

Rotate WCJ when someone is out. I don’t expect Paolo to miss many more games.

Goga, JI, Moe, and WCJ give us a lot of looks and variations. If we need cap room for a starter, sure move one.

[p0peye]

TDS is legit, and it's tough to shorten the rotation to 8 players as usually used in playoffs by contenders.

Have no worries, Magic fans. This dilemma is only here until Paolo, Franz and Suggs extensions kick in.

[Catledge]

Last year Mose didn't stagger Franz and Paolo so as to keep one on the floor at all times. I hope he changes his mind about this after Franz comes back so that we always have a legit alpha on the court.

[SHAQ32]

Until AB proves he even belongs in the NBA, he needs to be out of the rotation.

[KillMonger]

Until AB proves he even belongs in the NBA, he needs to be out of the rotation.

Must be a different AB you're talking about

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[drsd]

Queen is like Carter-Williams, but better. I'd love him to get a two-year deal to be the 13th man. He must be an awesome practice squad guy. His competitive level is sky-high.

[drsd]

Assuming full fitness, it'll be a 9 or10 man rotation and would be negligent for it to be anything else.

Until there's a consolidation, depth is our superpower. Wearing teams down is our modus operandi.
You do that with numbers. If you have 10 bodies that won't be hunted and/or embarrassed in the playoffs, you play 10 bodies. Assuming your surname isn't Thibodeau.

In the playoffs, these are the players that get minutes "no matter what":

Suggs
Caldwell-Pope
F-Wagner
Banchero/Isaac
Bitadze/Carter

From there minutes will be based on game-play, positional needs/match-ups, and fouls for: Anthony, da Silva, and Black.

That is the default ten-man rotation. Then Queen, Harris and Howard get minutes only if there are foul- troubles to the above ten.

That is, there will be 13 players that "get minutes" in a 10-man rotation.

What I take from this is that the Magic still have a desperate need for a 3rd string C to ensure playoff depth.

[Skybox]

Goga/Olynyk/WCJ
Paolo/Isaac/WCJ
Franz/TdS/Isaac
KCP/Sexton/Queen
Suggs/AB/Sexton

[mattdelray1220]

Goga/Olynyk/WCJ
Paolo/Isaac/WCJ
Franz/TdS/Isaac
KCP/Sexton/Queen
Suggs/AB/Sexton

So you think cole + Jett for Sexton and Olynyk?

I just feel like Cole is not going anywhere. He is hitting a stride and is a big part of this Magic family. I am not saying this is right or wrong but I just do not see us making a move this year. Maybe next..