Official 2025 Offseason Thread

[KillMonger]

In my eyes Paolo and Franz are the untouchables..... Suggs and Moe are staples.... 50/50 on AB in the sense that I would rather keep him but he wouldn't stop me from including him in a great deal..... Cole has to go, as fast as possible.... Dell can go as well, if he's not really stretching the floor or rebounding then what good is he? KCP should go but I can see him being a bit hard to move so he might still be here.... Gary should be gone, as well as JI.. Everyone else, fire sale even though I think TDS is OK but he could be had as well

As far as what we need? We need one more legitimate bucket getter(Simons, Poole?) and I think we need a real stretch big with size no more 6'9 wendells of the world, tired of giving up 2nd chance points it should be 1 shot 1 rebound fast break in that order.......

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[CLosP]

If you can’t play Isaac big minutes against a team with Jaylen Brown, Tatum, & Porzingis, he is literally useless. His salary cost us this season two quality bench players. People on this board will insist he’s a good contract though. It is insane. I don’t have any confidence in this front office to make a big splash as you’ve all seen what they’ve done with the cap space the past couple of seasons.

They need ideally not one but two new guards that at least one is an actual PG & another a shooter off the bench. Get rid of one of these big men contracts. If we’re going to have a third big man, use one of these second round picks or the late first on one.

Weltman must be watching Fast & Furious marathons with his family mantra nonsense but he needs to trade all these great contracts I keep reading about & flip them for actual skilled offensive players. I rather us drop defensively from a top 2 team to top 10 if that means getting to the middle of the pack offensively & showing progress that way.

[drsd]

I am fully resigned to more "internal growth".

Drop Harris. Pick up two rookies. Off-season over.

WePark Dream of Suggs and Caldwell-Pope improving to 38% on 8 three-balls a game, Banchero and F-Wagner to 34% on their attempts. And more health.

A roll-it-back roster can get to 50 wins. I am confident of that. It cannot contend for the Easter Championship. I am also confident of that.

[cedric76]

I am fully resigned to more "internal growth".

Drop Harris. Pick up two rookies. Off-season over.

WePark Dream of Suggs and Caldwell-Pope improving to 38% on 8 three-balls a game, Banchero and F-Wagner to 34% on their attempts. And more health.

A roll-it-back roster can get to 50 wins. I am confident of that. It cannot contend for the Easter Championship. I am also confident of that.

nah, we ll make a move but P5,Franz,Suggs,KCP,WCJ and AB are not going anywhere

We want to build our team like Boston

2 way players able to switch on everyone, so Suggs+KCP and AB are not going anywhere

Trade chips are Cole + FRPs + Harris (exp)

Have faith in Wepark, they ll do the job

[basketballRob]

What's the deal with JI's contract? basketballRob keeps on mentioning the ability to cut him this summer... I don't recall his deal having team options for every year... and that would be very odd and not the norm.

Next summer on 7/7/26. I think only $8m is guaranteed in 2026. So that could be a good trade chip.

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[drsd]

What's the deal with JI's contract? basketballRob keeps on mentioning the ability to cut him this summer... I don't recall his deal having team options for every year... and that would be very odd and not the norm.

Next summer on 7/7/26. I think only $8m is guaranteed in 2026. So that could be a good trade chip.

2025–26: $15 million (fully guaranteed)

2026–27: $14.5 million, with $8 million guaranteed; becomes fully guaranteed if Isaac plays at least 52 games in the 2025–26 season or one day after the 2026 moratorium.

2027–28: $14.5 million (non-guaranteed); becomes fully guaranteed if Isaac plays at least 52 games in the 2026–27 season or one day after the 2027 moratorium.

2028–29: $15 million (non-guaranteed); becomes fully guaranteed if Isaac plays at least 52 games in the 2027–28 season or one day after the 2028 moratorium.​


Waive Savings and Injury Protections
The contract's structure provides the Magic with financial flexibility in case of future injuries. If Isaac is waived before the non-guaranteed years become fully guaranteed, the team would only be responsible for the guaranteed portions of his salary. For instance, in the 2026–27 season, only $8 million is guaranteed unless he meets the games-played threshold. This approach allows the Magic to mitigate financial risk while rewarding Isaac for maintaining health and availability.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Players that should either be cut or traded : Cole, Isaac, Jett, Gary, KCP, Goga.

Weltman better be working those phones making calls not just sitting on his thumb. We need 3-4 capable NBA players on this roster next year and I’m not talking draft picks.

[CarraT]

Keep Suggs, Franz, Paolo. Use everything else to get best PG with plus shooting available and best rim running C available. Figure out depth later.

[eyriq]

Bottom line: The team is too expensive to run it back. Continuity ends for financial reasons alone.

We don't even need to mention design imbalances, which provide further momentum to re-tool.

[CLosP]

A little surprised by the poll so far. I feel this should be very one sided lol.

[eyriq]

A little surprised by the poll so far. I feel this should be very one sided lol.

It is probably a no, but I voted yes. So much smoke around Simons that some wishful thinking kicks in.

[CLosP]

A little surprised by the poll so far. I feel this should be very one sided lol.

It is probably a no, but I voted yes. So much smoke around Simons that some wishful thinking kicks in.

I agree it is wishful thinking. Everyone is just hoping the FO doesn’t sit on their hands & run it back with more rookies on the team.

[Optimus_Steel]

Another thing I forgot to add, we should keep an eye on availability of the Max Strus/Duncan Robinson types.

[VFX]

Paolo, Franz, and Suggs stay obviously.

You can make an argument for everyone else to be moved. I’m serious.

You cannot have the same starting lineup and bench unit next season.

You cannot be paying Cole Anthony his contract as a deep third option in a playoff situation.

Isaac and Carter are dead weight. I’m not listening to arguments otherwise. The money can be used elsewhere for better production.

KCP went 6-24 in a 5 game playoff series as a guy labeled a “shooter”. Move him. You don’t pay a defensive specialist that contract at the expense of an actual point guard next to Suggs.

AB was largely inconsequential for most of the playoffs. With what little asset value this roster has on decent money I’d have no problem moving him to address actual needs. Yeah, I see the potential. No, I don’t see how his skillset helps the starting lineup directly.

Unfortunately, Weltman has failed to make smaller individual decisions for the last 3 seasons, so to rehaul everything in one offseason to his liking is nearly impossible.

With that in mind, the chance he makes significant improvements to this roster now are slim. TOO BAD.

[eyriq]

Paolo, Franz, and Suggs stay obviously.

You can make an argument for everyone else to be moved. I’m serious.

You cannot have the same starting lineup and bench unit next season.

You cannot be paying Cole Anthony his contract as a deep third option in a playoff situation.

Isaac and Carter are dead weight. I’m not listening to arguments otherwise. The money can be used elsewhere for better production.

KCP went 6-24 in a 5 game playoff series as a guy labeled a “shooter”. Move him. You don’t pay a defensive specialist that contract at the expense of an actual point guard next to Suggs.

Unfortunately, Weltman has failed to make smaller individual decisions for the last 3 seasons, so to rehaul everything in one offseason to his liking is nearly impossible.

With that in mind, the chance he makes significant improvements to this roster now are slim. TOO BAD.

National media thinks we are a third seed when healthy.

[VFX]

Paolo, Franz, and Suggs stay obviously.

You can make an argument for everyone else to be moved. I’m serious.

You cannot have the same starting lineup and bench unit next season.

You cannot be paying Cole Anthony his contract as a deep third option in a playoff situation.

Isaac and Carter are dead weight. I’m not listening to arguments otherwise. The money can be used elsewhere for better production.

KCP went 6-24 in a 5 game playoff series as a guy labeled a “shooter”. Move him. You don’t pay a defensive specialist that contract at the expense of an actual point guard next to Suggs.

Unfortunately, Weltman has failed to make smaller individual decisions for the last 3 seasons, so to rehaul everything in one offseason to his liking is nearly impossible.

With that in mind, the chance he makes significant improvements to this roster now are slim. TOO BAD.

National media thinks we are a third seed when healthy.

Wow they must be really high on Suggs and Moe then.

Interesting we don’t hear them say anything about those players throughout the year and only when Magic are in the playoffs.

[eyriq]

Wow they must be really high on Suggs and Moe then.

Interesting we don’t hear them say anything about those players throughout the year and only when Magic are in the playoffs.

Yeah. I think we (me) undervalue Suggs and don't give enough weight to the other injuries (not me).

Regardless, the roster is clearly imbalanced and the front office is almost forced to pivot from their plan (Cole and Jett sucking, decade bad shooting, center logjam, KCP disappointment).

[basketballRob]

Cole had 12 PFs in 50 minutes. Goga had 6 PFs on 11 minutes.

So Cole fouled every 4 minutes, and Goga every 2 minutes.








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[basketballRob]

Wow they must be really high on Suggs and Moe then.

Interesting we don’t hear them say anything about those players throughout the year and only when Magic are in the playoffs.

Yeah. I think we (me) undervalue Suggs and don't give enough weight to the other injuries (not me).

Regardless, the roster is clearly imbalanced and the front office is almost forced to pivot from their plan (Cole and Jett sucking, decade bad shooting, center logjam, KCP disappointment).

I hope Weltman can admit they were wrong about Jett. I can't imagine 7 years of Jett trying to show he belongs in the NBA.

I feel like a big fault of Weltman is that he does too many favors. A new GM would immediately turn down the option on Moe and get rid of Jett and Cole.

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[VFX]

Wow they must be really high on Suggs and Moe then.

Interesting we don’t hear them say anything about those players throughout the year and only when Magic are in the playoffs.

Yeah. I think we (me) undervalue Suggs and don't give enough weight to the other injuries (not me).

Regardless, the roster is clearly imbalanced and the front office is almost forced to pivot from their plan (Cole and Jett sucking, decade bad shooting, center logjam, KCP disappointment).

I hope Weltman can admit they were wrong about Jett. I can't imagine 7 years of Jett trying to show he belongs in the NBA.

I feel like a big fault of Weltman is that he does too many favors. A new GM would immediately turn down the option on Moe and get rid of Jett and Cole.

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What does him admitting to anything prove? Jett is a throw-in for any potential trade now after rotting on the bench proving nothing. It was the same with Bamba.

Jeff Weltman’s problem is that he doesn’t act fast enough for the rest of the league. He can’t analyze a player or situation and react accordingly. He has to wait 3+ seasons before he makes a decision.

-Wendell Carter should have been gone last season when Goga outplayed him during injury to avoid re-signing.
-Cole Anthony should have been moved anytime in the last 1.5 seasons.
-Jonathan Isaac shouldn’t have been re-signed.
- Fultz should have been moved at any point before or after signing his extension.
-Gary Harris made no sense on this roster after signing KCP and having two prospects needing to boost value. He could have been in the Stuff costume and I wouldn’t have noticed.