AB vs Suggs development comparison

[pepe1991]

AB vs Justise Winslow or Stanley Johnson is a better comparison

Only if you stop watching after the draft. AB’s already a better passer than either ever were, defends guards not just wings, and actually processes the game like a real guard. Winslow and Stanley were tweeners with no position, AB’s a jumbo guard with a plan. Not the same sport.

Winslow had one period where Heat really tried to convert him to PG, he averaged 4,3 apg -2,2 TO, at age of 22 on 39-43 team.

He simply did not had scoring nor shooting touch required for PG in nba.

[eyriq]

AB vs Justise Winslow or Stanley Johnson is a better comparison

Only if you stop watching after the draft. AB’s already a better passer than either ever were, defends guards not just wings, and actually processes the game like a real guard. Winslow and Stanley were tweeners with no position, AB’s a jumbo guard with a plan. Not the same sport.

Winslow had one period where Heat really tried to convert him to PG, he averaged 4,3 apg -2,2 TO, at age of 22 on 39-43 team.

He simply did not had scoring nor shooting touch required for PG in nba.

And AB is already flashing better court vision, defensive versatility, and feel for tempo than Winslow ever did in that Heat experiment. Winslow had to be converted into a point because there was no real position for him. AB was drafted as a lead guard. There’s a world of difference between patching a role and developing a plan, and AB’s path looks nothing like Winslow’s.

[BadMofoPimp]

Only if you stop watching after the draft. AB’s already a better passer than either ever were, defends guards not just wings, and actually processes the game like a real guard. Winslow and Stanley were tweeners with no position, AB’s a jumbo guard with a plan. Not the same sport.

Winslow had one period where Heat really tried to convert him to PG, he averaged 4,3 apg -2,2 TO, at age of 22 on 39-43 team.

He simply did not had scoring nor shooting touch required for PG in nba.

And AB is already flashing better court vision, defensive versatility, and feel for tempo than Winslow ever did in that Heat experiment. Winslow had to be converted into a point because there was no real position for him. AB was drafted as a lead guard. There’s a world of difference between patching a role and developing a plan, and AB’s path looks nothing like Winslow’s.

I doubt AB will be any better than Winslow before injuries derailed his career. Winslow had solid court vision. AB is not a playmaker to any degree and not that great a ball handler. Solid defense though. More like KCP light which is always needed. This next year is a make or break year for AB. I hope he proves me wrong!

[Case2012]

What about a trade of Sharpe and Simons for Suggs, 16 and 25? Is that close? Maybe we could include Ayton and Isaac and the 11?

Simons/Anthony/Black
Sharpe/KCP
Wagner/Howard/Bryant? (11)
Paolo/WCJ
Ayton/Goga

Scoot/WCJ(25)/ Cp3 VM mentor?
Suggs/Coward(16), Rupert
Toumani/ Thybulle
Deni/ Grant/ Isaac
Clingan/ RW

I like it for both teams. Orlando adds shooting with Simons and maybe a future star with Sharpe and take their pick of Suggs defensive replacement at 11 with CMB or Bryant? Plus they get additional scoring and rebounding with Ayton who can be an 18 and 12 guy pretty easily. Both Simons and Ayton are close to home so they should be happy and are expiring if you want to move on.

PDX becomes one of the best defenses in the league while adding shooting to the bench with the 2 rookies. A forward/SG rotation of Grant, Deni, Thybulle, Toumani, Suggs, Isaac has to be one of the best defenses in the league but doesn't lose that much scoring or shooting. Deni becomes the first option and hopefully an all star while Grant chucks away as 6th man to get his stats. We lose some shot creation with Sharpe but hopefully Coward can be groomed into that alpha role.

[basketballRob]

Winslow had one period where Heat really tried to convert him to PG, he averaged 4,3 apg -2,2 TO, at age of 22 on 39-43 team.

He simply did not had scoring nor shooting touch required for PG in nba.

And AB is already flashing better court vision, defensive versatility, and feel for tempo than Winslow ever did in that Heat experiment. Winslow had to be converted into a point because there was no real position for him. AB was drafted as a lead guard. There’s a world of difference between patching a role and developing a plan, and AB’s path looks nothing like Winslow’s.

I doubt AB will be any better than Winslow before injuries derailed his career. Winslow had solid court vision. AB is not a playmaker to any degree and not that great a ball handler. Solid defense though. More like KCP light which is always needed. This next year is a make or break year for AB. I hope he proves me wrong!

I don't think Winslow liked playing basketball.

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[BadMofoPimp]

And AB is already flashing better court vision, defensive versatility, and feel for tempo than Winslow ever did in that Heat experiment. Winslow had to be converted into a point because there was no real position for him. AB was drafted as a lead guard. There’s a world of difference between patching a role and developing a plan, and AB’s path looks nothing like Winslow’s.

I doubt AB will be any better than Winslow before injuries derailed his career. Winslow had solid court vision. AB is not a playmaker to any degree and not that great a ball handler. Solid defense though. More like KCP light which is always needed. This next year is a make or break year for AB. I hope he proves me wrong!

I don't think Winslow liked playing basketball.

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I think after he got injured, he just collected paychecks.

[basketballRob]

Black is getting better today.

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[basketballRob]

AB vs Justise Winslow or Stanley Johnson is a better comparison

Maybe we should draft this kid in a couple of seasons?

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