Lakers fan here.. Question about Turkoglu

paperboymafia · Post #21 » by **paperboymafia** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 4:21 am

SPuL wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Arroyo isn't important.. He could be replaced with any other expiring so that's not an issue.

Wow @ the responses so far though lol. You guys are right Hedo is playing lights out for you this season so I don't blame you for being offended.. But I think most unbiased parties would agree Lamar is the more talented/valuable player.

pass that doobie over here.

Bay_Areas_Finest · Post #22 » by **Bay_Areas_Finest** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 4:45 am

SPuL wrote:But I think most unbiased parties would agree Lamar is the more talented/valuable player.

Haha, no they wouldn't. Well, atleast not the knowledgable sports fans.

Lamar is an oft-injured tease, while Turkoglu has finally grown into the complete player (We hope it lasts) that everyone envisioned.

Last year, I might have considered such a deal, but not anymore.

EasternMagic · Post #23 » by **EasternMagic** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 5:50 am

HELL NO!!!! seriously man go be happy you have an all star team now you dont need one of our best players and no way in hell for lamar odom?!?!?!?!?!? and cobi carl?!?!?!?!?!?!? are you joking? please tell me you are. omg

EasternMagic · Post #24 » by **EasternMagic** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:06 am

SPuL wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Arroyo isn't important.. He could be replaced with any other expiring so that's not an issue.

Wow @ the responses so far though lol. You guys are right Hedo is playing lights out for you this season so I don't blame you for being offended.. But I think most unbiased parties would agree Lamar is the more talented/valuable player.

are you on drugs? there is no way that lamar even comes close to hedo this season. like im baffled by this trade offer. three people for odom and nobody carl? granted its pat and carlos but HEDO?? man you are truly crazy to even produce a thought of hope that we would concider that

SPuL · Post #25 » by **SPuL** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 8:50 am

Key phrase in all of these replies.. THIS SEASON.

Hedo has never had a season like this, he is overachieving at a huge level.. Maybe it's just the system is a perfect fit for him, so aslong as that is in place he will continue to excel.. But don't forget how good Lamar was playing the 4 in Miami..

Hedo is a career 11.3/4/2.3 guy..

Lamar is a career 15.6/8.7/4.5

Lamar is a better all around player, Hedo is having a great season.. But at the end of the day that's all it is, 1 season.

Anyway I can see this isn't going anywhere.. Maybe you need to hire Jerry West as an advisor :lol:

Then we can swap Lamar out with Vlade lol

richboy · Post #26 » by **richboy** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 8:51 am

Hedo is worth more to Orlando than his trade value on open market. In reality Hedo would not put up these numbers playing in the triangle and not as the number 1 perimeter option. Funny thing is if that trade did happen then Odom numbers would improve and Hedo would start looking like Hedo past years since he be deferring as a 3rd to 4th option.

SPuL · Post #27 » by **SPuL** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 8:58 am

^ Truth. Lamar was a beast playing against eastern conference PF's. & also true on the point about Hedo's numbers dropping in LA.. But that would be fine for us, we just need decent play from a shooter @ the 3, without paying Lamar type money.

SPuL · Post #28 » by **SPuL** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 9:13 am

Ok.. What about possibly using your expirings to facilitate another deal? It sounds like you guys aren't really happy with Arroyo, but are too thin @ PG to let him go.. Would Mike James be a improvement in your eyes? You can never have too many deep threats around a stud like Dwight.

Here's what I had in mind:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &te=&cash=

Houston fans expressed interest in Odom for Battier already, but they don't really have the expirings we would need. I think James is def. an upgrade over Arroyo, then you get a young 2 with good upside in Head, for a guy that can't even crack your rotation.

I know noone wants to help the Lakers at this point, but what do you think about this?

drsd · Post #29 » by **drsd** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:09 am

Wow the homers can come out in force. The reality is that Turkoglu is having a great season, but the proposed trade helps the Magic.

Lamar Odom would allow Lewis to slide to the 3. Odom is a much better rebounder than Hedo, and a better passer.

The Magic are a more balanced team with a front court of Lewis-Odom-Howard over Turkoglu-Lewis-Howard.

That said, GM Smith is very mindful of current team unity. The Magic more than anything else need to win a playoff series this year. The current roster looks to do that, and thus, GM Smith will unlikely agree to any trade AT ALL.

Still, Odom would look good in Magic blue next to Lewis and Howard.

teksaz · Post #30 » by **teksaz** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 12:37 pm

richboy wrote:Hedo is worth more to Orlando than his trade value on open market. In reality Hedo would not put up these numbers playing in the triangle and not as the number 1 perimeter option. Funny thing is if that trade did happen then Odom numbers would improve and Hedo would start looking like Hedo past years since he be deferring as a 3rd to 4th option.

+3576
words by words

teksaz · Post #31 » by **teksaz** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 12:39 pm

drsd wrote:
Still, Odom would look good in Magic blue next to Lewis and Howard.

... if you would have a decent PG (why not D.Dickau).

Typhoon20 · Post #32 » by **Typhoon20** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 1:02 pm

EasternMagic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

are you on drugs? there is no way that lamar even comes close to hedo this season. like im baffled by this trade offer. three people for odom and nobody carl? granted its pat and carlos but HEDO?? man you are truly crazy to even produce a thought of hope that we would concider that

Crazy ? Nah, more like spoiled by Stern.
After Pau they think they can do any trade.
As I said, even if they could give us one of the best players in this league I still wouldn't do it. Just so the Lakers can't have their own way. They simply want to extend Bynum. I don't want to be a part of that.

Check the top 10 most lopsided trades in history and you'll see that the Lakers are in the top 4 3 times. With Gasol they make the top 5, 4 times. Makes ya wonder.

goflyakite · Post #33 » by **goflyakite** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 1:53 pm

I'd take a look at Lewis for Odom (fillers to balance), rather than Turk.

goflyakite · Post #34 » by **goflyakite** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 2:02 pm

And all this stuff about Turk maybe having a flash in the pan year needs to be examined. You have still a young guy only APPROACHING his prime. Has played on excellent teams, excellent players, had high level experience (in terms of playoffs/championship caliber situations). He also, in spite of that, has not played TOO many minutes to be showing wear and tear. Not saying that this is DEFINITELY his launch pad year, but indications point to it...given all that and the dynamics of the team/coach. Yes, Odom was successful with SVG, and has superior rebounding skills....but man, I don't give up Turk for anything but an established all-star right now.

magicfan04 · Post #35 » by **magicfan04** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 5:51 pm

goflyakite wrote:I'd take a look at Lewis for Odom (fillers to balance), rather than Turk.

this is wat i was thinking....makes alot more sense for the magic

Potterman · Post #36 » by **Potterman** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:19 pm

Currently I find myself asking why trade an so called all-star snub for someone who never was an all star? Guys am I true in saying that?

Fact is you gotta stick with what is winning. Hedo has won us at least 7 games by his 4th quarter heroics. I do not see Odom even if it was for Turk or Lewis as the kind of player that catapults us to the upper top of the NBA.

Kobe couldn't do it with Odom......why would we think Dwight can?

parso15 · Post #37 » by **parso15** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:22 pm

magicfan04 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

this is wat i was thinking....makes alot more sense for the magic

But does this make sense for the Lakers?

I guess not since they would not want his big contrat on their books... on the other hand nobody would want Lewis & his max contract. Don't get me wrong he is a good player but not a 118 million one. This is probably the reason for all the trade Hedo threads...

Btw I have to say these threads did decrease a bit after last weeks heroics & saying no to Odom takes a lot... personality aside he is a fine basketball player.

karizma87 · Post #38 » by **karizma87** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:44 pm

goflyakite wrote:I'd take a look at Lewis for Odom (fillers to balance), rather than Turk.

odom hedo and dwight = sick

Optimus_Steel · Post #39 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:50 pm

Why would the Magic trade a guy that is directly responsible for the Magic having a 31-18 record?

parso15 · Post #40 » by **parso15** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:51 pm

karizma87 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

odom hedo and dwight = sick

The more I think about this frontcourt the more it makes sense... with the passing skills of Hedo & Odom Dwights score will go up quite a bit. A PG who is a good defender & solid ballhandler would be enough too I guess.
Too bad this can never come true :banghead:

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