Will Hedo have to be traded this summer?

[richboy]

I would trade Hedo only for a player that I thought would make the team even better. Otis probably never do it because it would mean Jameer to the bench but Hedo for TJ Ford would give the Magic a PG right outside of the best. Ford per 36 this year is nearly 20 and 10.

[spinedoc]

I would have thought that if he was ever going to be dealt away, it would have been at the same time we got Lewis. Since he wasn't, I think he stays long term now. The question was how to use him because he seems redundant to Lewis, but Stan's found his niche. Let him be the teams utility player, and play a pg type role from point guard to power forward in a small lineup if need be, and depending on the matchups. Jameer then gets to play off the ball more and bring the ball up the floor. Then move Shard to the pf spot only when it favors us. As a team, we could use more versatility. Not having Battie is stifling that.

[Versubio]

I would have thought that if he was ever going to be dealt away, it would have been at the same time we got Lewis. Since he wasn't, I think he stays long term now. The question was how to use him because he seems redundant to Lewis, but Stan's found his niche. Let him be the teams utility player, and play a pg type role from point guard to power forward in a small lineup if need be, and depending on the matchups. Jameer then gets to play off the ball more and bring the ball up the floor. Then move Shard to the pf spot only when it favors us. As a team, we could use more versatility. Not having Battie is stifling that.

Maybe we can start him at SG next season.

[Bay_Areas_Finest]

We'd better be getting some Grade-A talent back if we trade Hedo.

If Orlando received an offer such as Hedo/Bogans for (S+T)Paul Milsap/Harpring do you turn it down?

Or Hedo/Bogans for Andre Miller?

LOL.

Since when did Hedo Turkoglu become Keyon Dooling? He's worth a whole hell of a lot more than those scrubs. (Miller is decent, but not worth Hedo).

[richboy]

Remember how the Grant Hill at sg worked. Hedo probably the most natural sf on this roster. I'm not sure a move like that won't have Hedo ready to pack his things when his contract is up like Grant did.

We need to rebound more and pass/defend better. I don't think its crazy to ask Rashard to grab a few more rebounds per game. Just get some size and versatility in the backcourt. We get killed on the perimeter on defense. They can't pass and don't help much on the glass. If we can find players that can fit that mold then there no reason to trade Hedo.

[spinedoc]

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Maybe we can start him at SG next season.

I'm starting to think that he can handle that on most nights, but I'm afraid to pigeon hole him there like we did this year with Lewis at pf. Hedo's never had a problem coming off the bench before. So, let him come in on the first change and then rotate around giving a breather to everyone else. Admittedly that would be tough to do once he signs a new contract and gets a healthy raise. That might be too much money coming off the bench, but I think he can still get more than enough minutes. I'd like to use our mle on a more suitable starting sg, and it would be hard to get one that wouldn't want to start for us. Making Hedo the sixth man again seems the best way to go, for now anyway, lol.

[MagicStarwipe]

I don't see why we would trade our second best player.

[Bigmagicfan82]

Remember how the Grant Hill at sg worked. Hedo probably the most natural sf on this roster. I'm not sure a move like that won't have Hedo ready to pack his things when his contract is up like Grant did.

We need to rebound more and pass/defend better. I don't think its crazy to ask Rashard to grab a few more rebounds per game. Just get some size and versatility in the backcourt. We get killed on the perimeter on defense. They can't pass and don't help much on the glass. If we can find players that can fit that mold then there no reason to trade Hedo.

I don't think it is fair to compare Hedo to post ankle surgery Hill.

1) Hedo is a better shooter then Hill.

2) Hedo is a better passer then Hill

3) Hedo has better handles then Hill

4)Hedo is faster then post surgery Hill

[richboy]

Those things may be true but the fact is during a contract year your moving your second best player to a unnatural position. Grant Hill bolted after he was forced to make the change. Hedo could very well do the same. The 2 and 3 are not the same position. If Hedo moves to SG doesn't play as well then he may look at it as the team chose Rashard at sf over him.

[Bigmagicfan82]

Those things may be true but the fact is during a contract year your moving your second best player to a unnatural position. Grant Hill bolted after he was forced to make the change. Hedo could very well do the same. The 2 and 3 are not the same position. If Hedo moves to SG doesn't play as well then he may look at it as the team chose Rashard at sf over him.

Oh please, Grant Hill did not bolt because he was played at SG. He bolted because he want a last chance to win a ring. So he went to the team that he felt had the best chance to do it.

[richboy]

Well thats your opinion but he has said that he told Otis before the Rashard signing that he could not play another year at Sg.

[NEM]

no!!!!!!

[Bigmagicfan82]

Well thats your opinion but he has said that he told Otis before the Rashard signing that he could not play another year at Sg.

Please show me the quote where he said that.

[MJallday59]

I understand that the trades i put up weren't that great...but I meant to use it as an example...


If we could get a SF and a Big for Hedo..should you do it?

Like Pietrus and Harrington for Turk

or a solid Point Guard...

That's what I meant....Didn't mean to get people so upset...

[TheGlyde]

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Please show me the quote where he said that.

Hill played shooting guard last season for the Magic, chasing and going against quicker, smaller players. He said one factor in his decision to leave was that he wanted to return to his natural position -- small forward.

The club struck a deal in principle last week with Rashard Lewis, a coveted 6-10 small forward seven years Hill's junior. 'Rashard's coming, and that's a great move, but I didn't feel like I could play the '2,' ' Hill said.

http://www.topix.net/content/trb/2007/0 ... the-desert

[MagicStarwipe]

I see no good reason to change our starting frontcourt. We are 40-23. It's succesfull. We create a lot of mismatches. Bringing in another quality big man doesn't have to mean changing our starting frontcourt.

[The Letter J]

Otis won't trade Hedo unless a team with a really high pick decides to move a really good player to provide playing time for said rookie.

Basically it would have to be very, very good value for us, because Otis loves Hedo.

[richboy]

Hedo at sg will be a big change. Offensively he has the ball skills to handle. Does he have the defensive ability to handle being the tallest sg in the league. He will go from guarding Tashaun Prince to Rip Hamilton. Instead of defending Shawn Marion he has Dwade. He goes from defending Luol Deng and Nocioni to Ben Gordon. I'm not convinced Hedo can do that unless we play primary zone defenses behind him.

[lovehoops01]

Didn't someone start this same poll last week? Why?

I don't see Hedo going anywhere this summer. I think Otis only would trade him at the deadline next year if he figures there is no way on Earth that he can re-sign him after next season. But I think he will make every effort to keep him long term. I agree....He loves that guy. And Van Gundy seems to also.

Hedo is under contract for sure with the Magic through next season. He has an option year in his contract for the year after that, which I would assume he would exercise.

You might be able to bring in a bruiser power forward, keep the same starting lineup and rotate the minutes differently. Van Gundy appears to be very good with this most nights, depending upon whether you need a scorer or a defender more on that particular night.

Are some of you guys going to take a minute just to enjoy the season as it is going on right now? It should be a little less stressful than the past several seasons, no? And if you think this is as good as it's going to get because the team is so dreadfully capped out (as most teams are), then at least try to enjoy as much of this season as possible if it's only going to get worse. Heaven forbid if it's as good a season as they're going to have for many years and you miss the opportunity to enjoy it because you're worrying about the future.

[drsd]

The sad truth is that the MLE will not lead to an upgrade at the PF slot. The only path for the Magic is to trade for a new PF. That means Turkoglu.

I vote yes.