Is Mo Evans a Staring Caliber SG?

[AdamTheGreek]

I think for this team and definitely this season, Mo is a great starting SG because he doesn't need the ball in his hands to make an impact.

Now if we get a Maggette, when need to re-sign Mo as our first guard off the bench.

[kookie_819]

For the Magic, yes, for at least this season... Like someone already said, we need a Bruce Bowen guy to complement all the scorers in this team...

But I think the ideal type of SG would be someone to control the ball, and allow Jameer and Hedo to score more and move without the ball... IMO Mo neither has the passing nor the ball handling skills...

Someone like Thabo on the Bulls, or Kyle Weaver would be nice... of course we just could've drafted Ronnie Brewer...

[Devin 1L]

No.

Maurice's PER is 13.66. That is by definition below league average. Below average players are not starters.

I won't even say that I disagree with your end result, but please don't tell me that you really think that is a reasonable rationale.

[NEM]

he would be a perfect backup to maggz

[mhectorgato]

It all depends on the situation. For us, I think as the team is currently configured, he fit's a role.

On other teams he wouldn't do so, and wouldn't be a starter for them.

But it's not like it would be impossible to get an upgrade though.

[Max Power]

I think we all need to realize that getting a star 2 guard just isn't going to happen right now, the meat of our team is that frontcourt with Hedo, Shard and Dwight. Every position on the floor can't be an allstar calibre player. In a honesty, the 2 guys we have in the backcourt have been solid enough.

Evans came in and he's earned that starting spot and played well. He does the things we need, and thats defend, rebound, get open and make the shots when he gets the ball. I am happy with Bogans too, he's done the same thing, and off the bench he's been better. Evans is a cheap, effective starter, and I for one hope the Magic bring him back next season.

I won't complain if we bring in Maggette somehow, but I hope the Magic keep Evans here behind him. Goofy voice. Good Player.

[orl1724]

IMO the ideal thing for the Magic to is is to get a guy like Maggette and keep Evans (who would be a great backup for the SG and SF) then trade Hedo for a guy like Haslem or maybe if we are lucky a guy like Lamarcus Aldrige.

Dwight/Foyle
Haslem/Cook
Lewis/Evans
Maggette/Evans
Jameer/PICK/Dooling or FA

[DiplomaticMagic]

Now if you look at the free agents this year. There are a few attractive SG's out there. But I would try to upgrade other positions before the 2 guard. I would like JJ to finally become the back-up off the bench. This guy was starting for us in pre-season I believe. And he was doing pretty good.

[TNMagicFan]

Mo does exactly what we need him to do . Plays good defense , and knocks down the open 3's. I think we need an upgrade at PG more than any other position .

[Cammo101]

IMO the ideal thing for the Magic to is is to get a guy like Maggette and keep Evans (who would be a great backup for the SG and SF) then trade Hedo for a guy like Haslem or maybe if we are lucky a guy like Lamarcus Aldrige.

Dwight/Foyle
Haslem/Cook
Lewis/Evans
Maggette/Evans
Jameer/PICK/Dooling or FA

Hedo for Haslem is awful. Hedo for Aldridge would be amazing. I think the more middle ground would be something like Hedo, Arroyo (S&T) and Redick for Bargnani and Ford.

[Happyfoosball]

No not even close but he best fits the mold for what SVG is looking for which is an athletic 2 guard that can run around and jump high and stuff. They will find someone like that who has more talent in the next couple of years. He's good enough to stick around and be a backup.

[Happyfoosball]

Mo does exactly what we need him to do . Plays good defense , and knocks down the open 3's. I think we need an upgrade at PG more than any other position .

See I don't think his defense is that good. He's better then Redick but I don't know if he's any better then Bogans on the defensive end.

[macdalejax]

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Hedo for Haslem is awful. Hedo for Aldridge would be amazing. I think the more middle ground would be something like Hedo, Arroyo (S&T) and Redick for Bargnani and Ford.

Agreed, Hedo for Haslem is awful but so is that one.

[ivDT]

a better question would be: is jameer nelson a starting caliber PG?

neither of our starting guards are good enough to log major minutes for a team with the long-term goal of winning a title.

mo's played well enough, but i think we'd be a much better team with him on the bench and JJ in europe.

i agree that we should probably focus on improving our PG or PF spots first, though.

[magicman123]

evans, bogans, and dooling are solid defenders, i dont think any of them are real good defenders, because our back court gives up so many pts..but the combo is working right now, dont know if a back court of nelson and evans can win us a championship but we can compete with players like dwight, lewis, and hedo

[magik9113]

on our team he's all we need. someone to make hustle plays and hit shots and play good defense.

[BassMaster]

Now if you look at the free agents this year. There are a few attractive SG's out there. But I would try to upgrade other positions before the 2 guard. I would like JJ to finally become the back-up off the bench. This guy was starting for us in pre-season I believe. And he was doing pretty good.

pg ???? Nelson ????
sg Evans Redick
sf Hedo Lewis
pf ????? Battie Augustine
center Howard ?????

Now the Magic just have to fill in the question marks
backup to Nelson I would go after Duhon he is a pg and very dependable and a free agent and not costly.
Starting at pg is another problem that needs to be fixed Nelson is not a starting pg anywhere.
pf do you start Battie with Cook and then Augustine or put Battie as the backup to Howard. Battie plays good defense, but he is lacking on floor speed and offense. He is a proven banger.
The weakest part about our sf players is that they simply seem to lack any real defense. Once in a while they play defense, but most of the time they just suck at it.
Give me somone like Battier who is great at defense and can score when called upon. The last time the Rockets played the Lakers Battier was the man on Kobe throughout the game and Kobe scored the fewest points this year.
Remember the most important thing the Magic are not willing to go over the Lux tax cap so that limits what kind of players they can sign I don't see Corey taking a pay cut to come here that wouldn't make sense for him.
The only way we get him is if the market out there for free agents is very soft.

[drsd]

pg ???? Nelson ????
sg Evans Redick
sf Hedo Lewis
pf ????? Battie Augustine
center Howard ?????

PG
So, you predict that Arroyo and Dooling move on. That is not likely. You predict that the Magic can upgrade starting PG and still retain Nelson, Turkoglu, Lewis, and Howard. There's no team in the league that would trade their stating PG without a major piece in return, and stating PGs n Championship caliber teams are not gotten for the MLE.

SG
You are unhappy with PG and PF but seem fine with SG. For me this is quite curious as I see the SG slot as the weakest. You also have Bogans moving on.

SF
It is flat improbable that Lewis will backup Turkoglu at SF.

PF
As with PG, the Magic would have to trade one of their big four to upgrade this starting slot, an the MLE is not enough. You also have Cook, Gortat, and Garrity moving on. You keep Augustine over Cook? ... and over Gortat?

C
Where's Foyle??? He's not being shipped as a package to improve the PG slot.


I cannot see next year's roster looking anything like you suggest. I see two possibilities:

1)
PG) Nelson, Dooling, Rookie/LLE
SG) MLE, Evans, Redick
SF) Turkogu, Bogans, LLE
PF) Lewis, Cook, Gortat
C) Howard, Battie, Foyle

This is the easiest roster to make as all that is required is to let some of the expirings move on, sign a couple of scrubs, and tab the best available SG on the free agent market. The above team is a touch above this year's club given the depth, but it still is not a 60 win team, nor a Champion contender.


2)
PG) Nelson, Dooling, Rookie/LLE
SG) MLE, Evans, Redick
SF) Lewis, Bogans, LLE
PF) Trade, Cook, Gortat
C) Howard, Battie, Foyle

Trading Turkoglu for a traditional PF and sliding Lewis to the SF is logical, but risky. The MLE can still get a quality SG. Here-now, two new starters could take some games to break in. But the SG and PF slots are not particularly TO prone, and that should be OK. This is the "All In" scenario for GM Smith if he believes that Magic can win it all next year. Right now, I see this as more likely than above.

[lovehoops01]

is deshawn? no...does he start/ yes....kind of like how bogans was..

Funny you mention that because whenever Evans blows a dunk or one of his layups roll off the side of the rim, I wonder when someone is going to say, "First DeShawn, now Mo...what's with it with our shooting guards?" I'm not sure why Mo does, but it seems like he rushes his shots a lot of times. He's right there....He just doesn't get it down. Hedo has been doing this a lot the past week or so, too (not the dunks, but the layups rolling off the other side).

You know, DeShawn almost never does this now, and he's gotten to be a pretty darned good 3-point shooter, too. We can't take back what has happened already, but I see a lot of similaries, and I still think DeShawn was a better defender on the Magic.

I'm OK with either Evans or Bogans on the team the Magic have now because not everyone can be scoring all the time, though Keith doesn't always have the speed he needs, and that definitely can hurt at the 2-guard and explains why some guys go off on the Magic all the time. I think the Magic need to upgrade the power forward first. If you get something better, you could replace one of the guys. Eventually, one of them probably will leave in free agency.

[BassMaster]

[quote="drsd"][/quote]

You didn't read everything that I said. Plus remember the Magic are in tight spot because of money tied up with just a few players.
I didn't say that Cook would be gone.
Carlos I don't see the Magic resigning, the Heat are interested in Dooling and Dooling is interested in playing near his home. He mentioned this in an interview.
I didn't predict that they could find a good starting pg I left that with ???'s remember. I did say that Nelson is not a starting pg. I said add Duhon for not too much money and he is a good enough pg to backup a real good pg. Plus he is a free agent after this season.

I am fine with Evans and Redick with either Hedo or Lewis bouncing back and forth in that slot.
BTW as of late Hedo has been starting the sf slot, but some teams actually play two sf's just like the Magic do when they want more offense it depends on who they are playing.

I never said that Cook was moving on you just skipped that part of my post.
Garrity I don't see the Magic resigning Gortat is a work in progress not helping the team at present. The Magic have Cook for a couple more years after this season, but the Magic need a big man who is good he doesn't have to be great and I also read that the free agent market could be soft since there so few teams under the cap.
The Magic will have Battie back next year, but they need someone who can move on the court with some speed and more offense he is a good banger when it comes to the boards.
Now I posted all of that in my last post, but you got to who I mentioned about starting and the quesiton marks and you stopped reading.
Next time read the entire post before you get your panties all tied up into a knot.
The Magic are not going to waste the MLE on the SG sport that is not where the team needs help.
THE MAGIC NEEDS A BIG MAN!!!
Lewis is not a pf, he is playing out of his normal slot when he plays pf.