Wow... 24 minutes

[BassMaster]

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A FG% 48.9 isn't particularly well?
How about the 39.6% beyond the arc?

I guess we all have different standards of what shooting well is ...

Gato loves to use all those games where Redick played like a minute here and there where no player can really get going including Dwight. The same applies to mattyBoi who thinks that Redick is a bust


Now here are the real kind of stats to go by:

This season he's averaging 12.7 points per game, (52% from the field, and 50% from three-point land) in games where he plays over 15 minutes.
Real minutes showing what Redick can actually do instead of the Gato stats that are

[Devin 1L]

OMG JJ one of our top 5 players?

JJ a starter?

WTH is going on here...Are we watching the same player?

Yes he can shoot...But he cannot do anything else on an NBA level

Our coaches are not idiots...They do know what they are doing

Maybe one day, far far away he will become a role player...But i dont see him ever being an important piece on a winning team

Rule #64 on RealGM:

You should look back no further than the previous game when judging a player.

[Cigamodnalro]

Seeing as this article was written on hoopsworld, and seeing as hoopsworld is run by "a girl named steve", this comes as no surprise

[BassMaster]

Seeing as this article was written on hoopsworld, and seeing as hoopsworld is run by "a girl named steve", this comes as no surprise

Sounds like your Political Asylum was denied for posts

[Bensational]

Truth be told I live on the West Coast and am a huge Laker fan. Can't wait for the playoffs to start this weekend too. It should be interesting to see how things develop for both teams.

Don't look now dude, but i think the next bandwagon is leaving town. Better make sure you don't miss it!!!

*no offense

[mattyBoi]

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Rule #64 on RealGM:

You should look back no further than the previous game when judging a player.

Damnit i always forget that one

[3-Pt_Shooter]

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Don't look now dude, but i think the next bandwagon is leaving town. Better make sure you don't miss it!!!

*no offense

I sure hope that you're not calling me a bandwagon Laker fan! I've been a Laker fan for 28-years...

[maginno]

Bleh. thought this thread would die with all the JJ threads already active. No need to take anything away from Mo. He's had a great run and of course JJ can do more than shoot. He has very good Bball IQ. I've always been impressed at how he sees the floor and his been known to deliver some nice passes. His weaknesses are on the other side of the floor and I've seen some improvement but given the reputation he's given himself he has a long way to go .

[mhectorgato]

Gato loves to use all those games where Redick played like a minute here and there where no player can really get going including Dwight. The same applies to mattyBoi who thinks that Redick is a bust

What the heck are you talking about?

The post I replied to said that Evans was bad shooter. In my replied I used his season stats with the Magic - others have posted that several players including Evans had considerably better averages in December.

[macdalejax]

I really do enjoy watching JJ play and I will certainly give him props for his play during the game the other night. I agree, if he played solid minutes he would certainly turn some heads in this league...at least on the offensive end. I hope we can keep him and work him into the rotation but SVG has more than earned my respect and I trust his decision as far as JJ's playing time right now.

[Catledge]

I really do enjoy watching JJ play and I will certainly give him props for his play during the game the other night. I agree, if he played solid minutes he would certainly turn some heads in this league...at least on the offensive end. I hope we can keep him and work him into the rotation but SVG has more than earned my respect and I trust his decision as far as JJ's playing time right now.

Well put. I agree completely.

[mttingly2391]

JJ should get more playing time, that's the bottom line. I don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but when he gets minutes he is very effective. People that say all he can do is shoot don't really know the game. He is one of the smartest players, if not thee smartest player on the team. He has very high bball IQ. He is an excellent passer and he sees the floor well. 4 reb, 3 ast in last game are pretty good compliments to his 18pts.

Mo Evans has been a nice addition. I will admit that he has played beyond my expectations for him when the Magic acquired him. However, he is not a good shooter. He may have nice percentages, but watch him shoot the mid range...it is terrible. He also has trouble creating his own shot. He is not a proto typical 2 guard at all. His athleticism and corner three make him effective.

[mhectorgato]

JJ should get more playing time, that's the bottom line. I don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but when he gets minutes he is very effective. People that say all he can do is shoot don't really know the game. He is one of the smartest players, if not thee smartest player on the team. He has very high bball IQ. He is an excellent passer and he sees the floor well. 4 reb, 3 ast in last game are pretty good compliments to his 18pts.

Mo Evans has been a nice addition. I will admit that he has played beyond my expectations for him when the Magic acquired him. However, he is not a good shooter. He may have nice percentages, but watch him shoot the mid range...it is terrible. He also has trouble creating his own shot. He is not a proto typical 2 guard at all. His athleticism and corner three make him effective.

Isn't that the point?

[mttingly2391]

What do you mean isn't that the point? I was just saying that he is not really a good shooter. Are you asking if that is the point of a shooting guard?

[mhectorgato]

What do you mean isn't that the point? I was just saying that he is not really a good shooter. Are you asking if that is the point of a shooting guard?

You said he's effective. My response was to say - if he's effective within the system, is it important that he's a prototypical SG?

Shard has been effective ... is he the prototypical PF?

And the burden of proof is upon you to show that he's not a good shooter. The numbers which are a gauge of his shooting show that he is.

His eFG for jump shots is 52.2%.
His FG% for close shots is 46.3%.

http://www.82games.com/0708/07ORL6A.HTM

I await proofs rather than just you saying that he's not.

[eyriq]

I did not mean to knock Evans, I love what the guy is doing for us and if he keeps up this level of play the Magic are going to sweep Toronto and probably beat Detroit. What I was trying to do is make an argument for JJ being our 5th best player, which I think can be made. Evans and Dooling are equally flawed, and then from there it gets worse. What JJ does he can do as well as anyone in the league. That to me is something to consider when we throw around his actual value to this team.

[mttingly2391]

Not exactly sure where you found this site, but I'm not sure I trust it. You're right, I don't have proof except to say that if you watch him play and you know the game, mo evans is not a starting 2 guard. He does not have the ability to consistently shoot the mid range jumper or create his own shots on a consistent basis. I don't have proof, just watch the game. I'm not saying that I don't like Mo, I think he doesn fit in well with the team. I was just stating what I notice about his game.

Shard is very effective and no he is not the prototypical 4. Don't you think by moving him over to the 3 and getting a real 4 this team would be better over the long haul?

[BassMaster]

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As usual you took the part of the post that fit your spin and ignored the rest and you keep on ignoring what that person posted.
I would tell the other person that it's not worth the time to response to your post because you will just keep on ignoring what they have posted because it does not fit your spin.

Evans is not that great of a shooter was the point, but of course you ignored that because you don't agree. So instead of ............why don't you just say that instead of acting ...................... wouldn't that be so much better.

[mhectorgato]

As usual you took the part of the post that fit your spin and ignored the rest and you keep on ignoring what that person posted.
I would tell the other person that it's not worth the time to response to your post because you will just keep on ignoring what they have posted because it does not fit your spin.

Evans is not that great of a shooter was the point, but of course you ignored that because you don't agree. So instead of ............why don't you just say that instead of acting ...................... wouldn't that be so much better.

I replied to the part of a post that said that Evans is a bad shot. The numbers show that this wasn't true.

I didn't post any numbers about JJ, which is what you said that I did.

Who's spinning what now homes?

[mhectorgato]

Not exactly sure where you found this site, but I'm not sure I trust it.

It's a site that's commonly accepted. Sorry.

You're right, I don't have proof except to say that if you watch him play and you know the game, mo evans is not a starting 2 guard. He does not have the ability to consistently shoot the mid range jumper or create his own shots on a consistent basis. I don't have proof, just watch the game. I'm not saying that I don't like Mo, I think he doesn fit in well with the team. I was just stating what I notice about his game.

Shard is very effective and no he is not the prototypical 4. Don't you think by moving him over to the 3 and getting a real 4 this team would be better over the long haul?

Case closed.

You have an opinion that's not anchored in reality. That's fine.