Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIX Offseason Edition)

dsg2021 · Post #201 » by **dsg2021** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:00 pm

Zmill wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/TyLawson3/status/353253210003226625[/tweet]

That's a disappointment on the Nuggets' management more than their players, because Iguodala has almost always been unhappy in every single season of his whole career so far. Trading for him was never a smart move, and the proof is that Iguodala turned down less guaranteed money and years just to get away from them.

laVal03 · Post #202 » by **laVal03** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:00 pm

Well Iggy leaving Denver doesn't help Denver. Heres hoping that Denver sucks this year. lol

BelgianMagic · Post #203 » by **BelgianMagic** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:01 pm

Skin wrote:
BelgianMagic wrote:In Before "Those could've been ours, damn you Hennigan!"
[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/353248679928414210[/tweet]

No way is that late draft pick or draft picks worth adding $24M + Tax Penalty to our salary.

No "damn you Hennigan" needed here.

I know it's not needed, but I expect some Magic fans saying so, hence the "in before .."

.. We need picks, but these picks are low and this price is too high IMO

dsg2021 · Post #204 » by **dsg2021** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:01 pm

laVal03 wrote:Well Iggy leaving Denver doesn't help Denver. Heres hoping that Denver sucks this year. lol

#Den&NykTankForORL

doct3r dr3 · Post #205 » by **doct3r dr3** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:03 pm

Not to belabor the point but,

**MOE HARKLESS PUT ON 15 POUNDS OF MUSCLE**

You can see it just by looking at his neck/traps in the interview posted on orlandomagic.com today.

(Click to Enlarge)

MagicFan41 · Post #206 » by **MagicFan41** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:04 pm

One interesting thing to think about is Cali's high taxes vs Texas. Especially if Dwight needs to take a paycut to go to GSW. That might tip the scale in favor of Houston. Oh wait, I forgot, Dwight only cares about winning....

rcklsscognition · Post #207 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:04 pm

Bensational wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Does Houston miss out on Howard because they didn't get Josh Smith? Will be interesting if Dwight does go with GSW, they took action, made things happen.

How did Houston miss out on Smith?? Who has he signed with?

No, but what I'm saying is, Dwight is in Aspen with his guys talking about this and they see GS pull this off and ready to S&T more guys to get Dwight. Howard asked Houston to bring in a 3rd superstar. They haven't pulled it off yet. Not saying JS is a superstar, but we know Dwight is his friend and that is a great trio.

As I closed with, will be interesting if Dwight does go to GSW because they took action. Assumes Houston doesn't sign Josh Smith or someone else before Howard makes a decision.

MagicHolland · Post #208 » by **MagicHolland** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:05 pm

I'm really curious to see what GS does next. They can't be done right? If so the Warriors just traded 20 million in expiring contracts and multiple draft picks just to add Iggy? Besides that adding Iggy means less opportunity for Barnes and Clay..

Reverse_Angle · Post #209 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:07 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:You guys realize that if Dwight leaves, every big chip in the trade has bolted their new team, except for the guys Orlando got. lol. Well, J-Rich stayed.

It is because he could not move. Laterally. Literally.

rcklsscognition · Post #210 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:08 pm

Def Swami wrote:We can still use our TPE to trade for Bogut and Thompson to give the Warriors room to sign D12 outright, right? I haven't checked the numbers.

It'd be something like Thompson for one of our rookies/2nd year guys and then Bogut for a TPE in a separate deal. no?

BelgianMagic · Post #211 » by **BelgianMagic** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:08 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/353258991918395393[/tweet]

rcklsscognition · Post #212 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:09 pm

Tick tock! Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 48s

Dallas Mavericks have been officially notified they are out of Dwight Howard Sweepstakes, sources tell ESPN

Down to GSW and Houston IMO. No way he goes back to LA after that talk with kobe. :lol:

PeePee la Fritz · Post #213 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:09 pm

MagicHolland wrote:I'm really curious to see what GS does next. They can't be done right? If so the Warriors just traded 20 million in expiring contracts and multiple draft picks just to add Iggy? Besides that adding Iggy means less opportunity for Barnes and Clay..

I don't see why signing Iggy means they HAVE to trade Barnes. Iggy can start at the 3 and he can also slide to the 2 to give Klay rest. There are enough minutes to go around for all 3 of those guys to get 30+

BelgianMagic · Post #214 » by **BelgianMagic** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:10 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/353259223938904064[/tweet]

tiderulz · Post #215 » by **tiderulz** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:11 pm

doct3r dr3 wrote:I didn't realize Jefferson and Biedrins were both going into the final years of their deals. Those are gonna make sweet expiring contracts in a few months ($11M and $9M respectively). And Warriors paid the Jazz to take them. Not too shabby at all.

just going to burn out. Who traded for an expiring last year?

Reverse_Angle · Post #216 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:11 pm

doct3r dr3 wrote:Not to belabor the point but,

**MOE HARKLESS PUT ON 15 POUNDS OF MUSCLE**

You can see it just by looking at his neck/traps in the interview posted on orlandomagic.com today.

(Click to Enlarge)

I hope he timed his steroid use right, so he would not get caught unlike hedo.

silent1900 · Post #217 » by **silent1900** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:11 pm

So is GSW genius for the picks they sent to Utah? Or stupid? Sent 14 and 17...can't send consecutive years...so if LAL demands picks in addition, they just throw up their hands and say 'oops, can't...unless you want '19'

MagicFan41 · Post #218 » by **MagicFan41** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:15 pm

silent1900 wrote:So is GSW genius for the picks they sent to Utah? Or stupid? Sent 14 and 17...can't send consecutive years...so if LAL demands picks in addition, they just throw up their hands and say 'oops, can't...unless you want '19'

It's a smart move. Their 2014 pick won't be great and they already will have tons of salary committed for years to come. They aren't building through the draft so it doesn't matter much to them now or in the near future. I'm sure they explored other options but if all they basically had to trade was a couple late 1st for iguodala of course you do that. Especially if that tips the scale to help you get Dwight to come too.

RickB-Orlando · Post #219 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:19 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:You guys realize that if Dwight leaves, every big chip in the trade has bolted their new team, except for the guys Orlando got. lol. Well, J-Rich stayed.

Well, I'm not sure I would say Duhon bolted exactly, but it is an interesting outcome. 'Course Bynum could resign in Philly still, couldn't he?

MagicHolland · Post #220 » by **MagicHolland** » Fri Jul 5, 2013 9:20 pm

PeePee la Fritz wrote:
MagicHolland wrote:I'm really curious to see what GS does next. They can't be done right? If so the Warriors just traded 20 million in expiring contracts and multiple draft picks just to add Iggy? Besides that adding Iggy means less opportunity for Barnes and Clay..

I don't see why signing Iggy means they HAVE to trade Barnes. Iggy can start at the 3 and he can also slide to the 2 to give Klay rest. There are enough minutes to go around for all 3 of those guys to get 30+

I did not say that though.. I just don't think wasting all those draft picks, just to add Iggy on 12 million a year while you have Barnes and Clay around, makes a whole lot of sense..