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Skybox wrote:Great game. Just got home. Well done Magic! We just signed Simmons-he's part of our future (at worst as a trade chip)...unless you're all on the Alex Martins 2030 plan. DJ is playing like a beast tonight...who do you think you're replacing him with- Fred Van Vleet? Very exciting...Tank every year, be Sacramento...NO THANKS!
Bite me...Good win!
Def Swami wrote:There's really not much else the Magic could have done there. They got crazy hot from 3 and the Bucks were a trainwreck on defense. The Magic couldn't sit anymore significant players. Hard to hate the team for this L but still sucks nonetheless.
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MagicMatic wrote:Skybox wrote:Great game. Just got home. Well done Magic! We just signed Simmons-he's part of our future (at worst as a trade chip)...unless you're all on the Alex Martins 2030 plan. DJ is playing like a beast tonight...who do you think you're replacing him with- Fred Van Vleet? Very exciting...Tank every year, be Sacramento...NO THANKS!
Bite me...Good win!
Find whatever way you can of justifying the season tickets. Whatever helps you sleep at night during the fifth rebuild.
GameOver25 wrote:Def Swami wrote:There's really not much else the Magic could have done there. They got crazy hot from 3 and the Bucks were a trainwreck on defense. The Magic couldn't sit anymore significant players. Hard to hate the team for this L but still sucks nonetheless.
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Def since you're the Magic forum sports doctor, could you heal a broken spirit here on the board?
Skybox wrote:MagicMatic wrote:Skybox wrote:Great game. Just got home. Well done Magic! We just signed Simmons-he's part of our future (at worst as a trade chip)...unless you're all on the Alex Martins 2030 plan. DJ is playing like a beast tonight...who do you think you're replacing him with- Fred Van Vleet? Very exciting...Tank every year, be Sacramento...NO THANKS!
Bite me...Good win!
Find whatever way you can of justifying the season tickets. Whatever helps you sleep at night during the fifth rebuild.
The fact that I buy tickets and support the team probably makes me a little more valued by the organization than hand-wringing on a forum 10x daily and angrily boycotting the TV broadcast. Like it or not it's a business.
I really don't care what anybody else does. People can enjoy their favorite things by supporting or hating everything about it- whatever makes you happy. It doesn't change a thing. I choose to be a fan by rooting for and celebrating improvement. Everybody do whatever you like.I hope they get one lottery ball and win the whole thing, or better yet pick the next ROY with the 10th pick.
I like how Isaac was moving with the ball. Perhaps he's got more potential offensively than I gave him credit. Then he sat...if he kept playing and twisted his ankle again...we'd really hear some moaning here. Your tanking heroes, the Sixers, redshirt all of their rookies...make up your minds. Tanking is a legit strategy but FAR from a sure thing. Blown out by a depleted Spurs team - fire everybody, this team's a mess. Quality win against a solid, healthy playoff team who wants to win-fire everybody, this team's a mess.
BTW, no Gordon, no Fournier, no Ross, Speights didn't play, Afflalo didn't play...always something to whine about. This team IS tanking, they sit guys down quickly and often, they lose almost every game. Forgive them if the guys we complain about show signs of being good players once every couple of weeks. Dammit DJ- miss more! Come on Simms, you didn't come here to distinguish yourself as an important player when the leaders are out.
GameOver25 wrote:Jonathan Isaac 4 pts 1/5 and he's talking about building habits for next year.
How about giving your top draft pick more than 5 shots?
JF5 wrote:Was at the game and actually pleased to see them win this game (though I want them to tank).
My observations from the Magic side were heavily focused on Issac (as he's obviously the main piece to the future).
1. He was being abused by Giannis. Though we would assume that he could guard him the best and give him the most problems that wasn't the case at all with how Giannis toyed with him. To be fair he is a rookie so it does make sense for him to get dominated by him.
2. He was gassed so easily... Having a hard time getting up and down the court from start to finish while watching this game (Birch subbed for him multiple times as he was laboring). That was pretty frightening to see and a little concerning seeing how he'd barely be on the court for 3-4 minutes and already have his hands on his knees. Shows that he's out of shape he is (due to not playing for several months) and his current body not being able to take the physical aspect and durability of the NBA. It might take him 2-3 years on that front to actually see him be able to body up guys in the paint.
3. He has no confidence offensively, barely any offensive game, nor does it seem like he has an alpha dog mentality. Right now he's a catch and shoot guy. From what I saw from him and how he carried himself on the court. Good player but I don't think he'll ever be a go-to-guy offensively. Unless his game makes major strides with his confidence and abilities his ceiling to me turned into guy who will most likely be in the Serge Ibaka/Rasheed Wallace/Rashard Lewis bracket which I talked about when he initially drafted him. Though this is a premature observation this to me seems like the most likely trajectory.
This guy is a MAJOR project and unfortunately that is something that fans don't want to hear right now. He's a guy where you'll most likely see a expansive change in his game in 3-4 years. Luckily that gives this team all the more reason to tank and get better players. Luckily for him I feel like he's a guy whose a keeper long term as he provides versatility/intangibles with his defense/size.
The one thing I might add is that we might be regret drafting Issac over Dennis Smith Jr. in a few years (IMO). But we'll see...
PrimeShaq wrote:SOUL wrote:DJ/Simmons our future
How sad is it that our actual future (Isaac/Mario) are the two starters benched during crunch time for Vets. How **** clueless is Vogel. The whole organization is a clown show.
Ducklett wrote:With the 11th pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Orlando Magic select 5 more years of obscurity.
j-ragg wrote:Meanwhile over on ESPN Tatum is carrying the Celtics with no Kyrie, Smart, Horford.
FFBlitzace wrote:Yeah I mean, we all understand that we'll have our good shooting nights and get the occasional win against bad/mediocre teams. What's annoying is a game like this where Vogel tryhards his ass off with veterans. Play the players that matter, and if they win, they win (Birch, for example, is one of those players, and he was a contributor in this win). But what we're doing here is pure, self destructive nonsense.
GameOver25 wrote:Serious who in the world cares that Augustin and Simmons rack up 30 pts games at the end of the year?