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2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II

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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#201 » by pepe1991 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:52 pm

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eyriq wrote:
I think you can have the view that Paolo and Franz are #1/#2 guys and still try and fill out the rest of the roster lottery talent you develop. We have known quantities that after solid starters and role players in WCJ, Isaac, Fultz, Harris, and Moe already.


Let's play a game.
I'll give you guaranteed contracts for 2023-24 and your job is simple.
Find minutes for upcomming two rookies.

PG: Fultz ( 30 ) / Cole ( 20) / Suggs ( 8)
SG: Garry Harris (28) / Suggs / 15 mpg / Cole 5
SF: Franz (30) / Okeke( 12) / Isaac ( 6)
PF: Banchero ( 30) / Isaac ( 5) / Bol ( 10)
C: Wendell ( 30) / , Bamba ( 15) / Bol 3)

Keep in mind this minutes distribution has Isaac playing 11 min, Bol 13 min, Okeke 12 min , and i assumed team will add NOBODY in fa


It's simply impossible, with current pile of players add two rookies, play them and not flat out suck life out of that team and once again be perennial top 5 worst team.

I also removed : Ross, Mortiz Wagner, Admiral Schofield and RJ Hampton from this , i also delited Houstan from existence

well for 1 you wait till draft then see
if after draft and see how ji holds up and suggs and anthony fultz improve or not..
bamba ,harris,bol are not even guarenteed okeke if no improvement going into next season can be rj this yr...
so i see a lot of min ...like all kinds
today is not the only day to make trade and might not be best time to do it


Well ,there is also 90% of salary cap to hit salary minimum (nothing happends if they don't , but still it's pointless to waste space, since you are charged for it anyway)

It's not *just* finding PT, you probably won't develop player if he spends 15 min a game standing in corner without any purpose.
Warriors and their complete waste of Wiseman, Moody and Kuminga are apsolute proof that you can't will your players into development, if you give them nothing to do on court and just expect miracle to happen in their developmental curve. Mistakes need to happen in order to grow.
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#202 » by jonbob17 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:53 pm

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Ideal. Our draft picks will be more valuable in the offseason.
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#203 » by eyriq » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:54 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
eyriq wrote:
magicfan217 wrote:If you think you have your #1 and #2 options moving forward (Paolo/Franz) then giving a big chunk of draft capital makes sense. If you still don't think you have the #1/#2 guys then you probably are better of holding the FRP's and continue to take swings at it.


I think you can have the view that Paolo and Franz are #1/#2 guys and still try and fill out the rest of the roster lottery talent you develop. We have known quantities that after solid starters and role players in WCJ, Isaac, Fultz, Harris, and Moe already.


Let's play a game.
I'll give you guaranteed contracts for 2023-24 and your job is simple.
Find minutes for upcomming two rookies.

PG: Fultz ( 30 ) / Cole ( 20) / Suggs ( 8)
SG: Garry Harris (28) / Suggs / 15 mpg / Cole 5
SF: Franz (30) / Okeke( 12) / Isaac ( 6)
PF: Banchero ( 30) / Isaac ( 5) / Bol ( 10)
C: Wendell ( 30) / , Bamba ( 15) / Bol 3)

Keep in mind this minutes distribution has Isaac playing 11 min, Bol 13 min, Okeke 12 min , and i assumed team will add NOBODY in fa


It's simply impossible, with current pile of players add two rookies, play them and not flat out suck life out of that team and once again be perennial top 5 worst team.

I also removed : Ross, Mortiz Wagner, Admiral Schofield and RJ Hampton from this , i also delited Houstan from existence
Love this thought experiment, I'll give it a go when I'm back at my PC
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#204 » by jonbob17 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:55 pm

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this was kind of a surprise to me...that him not earning more minutes after Sabonis left...
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#205 » by jonbob17 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:55 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:
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fendilim wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
Is that an actual statement from the FO or is that just groupthink that we on the forum tend to regurgitate?

Lol its been widely reported we’ve wanted a 1st rounder for him, and teams would only want to offer 2nds


That's fair. I also think a 2nd rounder is likely fair for Ross at this point. I think we have had moments where we played Hostan (SP?) over Ross.


I think a third rounder is fair for Ross at this point.
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#206 » by pepe1991 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:56 pm

eyriq wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
eyriq wrote:
I think you can have the view that Paolo and Franz are #1/#2 guys and still try and fill out the rest of the roster lottery talent you develop. We have known quantities that after solid starters and role players in WCJ, Isaac, Fultz, Harris, and Moe already.


Let's play a game.
I'll give you guaranteed contracts for 2023-24 and your job is simple.
Find minutes for upcomming two rookies.

PG: Fultz ( 30 ) / Cole ( 20) / Suggs ( 8)
SG: Garry Harris (28) / Suggs / 15 mpg / Cole 5
SF: Franz (30) / Okeke( 12) / Isaac ( 6)
PF: Banchero ( 30) / Isaac ( 5) / Bol ( 10)
C: Wendell ( 30) / , Bamba ( 15) / Bol 3)

Keep in mind this minutes distribution has Isaac playing 11 min, Bol 13 min, Okeke 12 min , and i assumed team will add NOBODY in fa


It's simply impossible, with current pile of players add two rookies, play them and not flat out suck life out of that team and once again be perennial top 5 worst team.

I also removed : Ross, Mortiz Wagner, Admiral Schofield and RJ Hampton from this , i also delited Houstan from existence
Love this thought experiment, I'll give it a go when I'm back at my PC


We need to move some bodies in order to create space, regardless of what direction we will pick. Simply too many players who expect PT and need PT to develop. Especially at PG spot
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#207 » by pepe1991 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:56 pm

jonbob17 wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
Spoiler:
fendilim wrote:Lol its been widely reported we’ve wanted a 1st rounder for him, and teams would only want to offer 2nds


That's fair. I also think a 2nd rounder is likely fair for Ross at this point. I think we have had moments where we played Hostan (SP?) over Ross.


I think a third rounder is fair for Ross at this point.


Maybe trade for salary cap relief on G league roster? Cash considirations for owner?
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#208 » by JoshuaPotter » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:57 pm

jonbob17 wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
Spoiler:
fendilim wrote:Lol its been widely reported we’ve wanted a 1st rounder for him, and teams would only want to offer 2nds


That's fair. I also think a 2nd rounder is likely fair for Ross at this point. I think we have had moments where we played Hostan (SP?) over Ross.


I think a third rounder is fair for Ross at this point.


2 4th rounders and a family size Sour Cream n Cheedar bag of chips.

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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#209 » by OnlyFranz22 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:59 pm

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Just heard from a source that Bulls and Knicks are revisiting talks on a LaVine trade. Talks began yesterday but broke off. Now back on.
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#210 » by OnlyFranz22 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:04 pm

Jae Crowder netted 5 second round picks lol
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#211 » by Furinkazan » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:04 pm

I think teams will wait us out on Ross trade and either it will be one 2nd rounder or teams will wait for us to waive him
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#212 » by jonbob17 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:09 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
eyriq wrote:
magicfan217 wrote:If you think you have your #1 and #2 options moving forward (Paolo/Franz) then giving a big chunk of draft capital makes sense. If you still don't think you have the #1/#2 guys then you probably are better of holding the FRP's and continue to take swings at it.


I think you can have the view that Paolo and Franz are #1/#2 guys and still try and fill out the rest of the roster lottery talent you develop. We have known quantities that after solid starters and role players in WCJ, Isaac, Fultz, Harris, and Moe already.


Let's play a game.
I'll give you guaranteed contracts for 2023-24 and your job is simple.
Find minutes for upcomming two rookies.

PG: Fultz ( 30 ) / Cole ( 20) / Suggs ( 8)
SG: Garry Harris (28) / Suggs / 15 mpg / Cole 5
SF: Franz (30) / Okeke( 12) / Isaac ( 6)
PF: Banchero ( 30) / Isaac ( 5) / Bol ( 10)
C: Wendell ( 30) / , Bamba ( 15) / Bol 3)

Keep in mind this minutes distribution has Isaac playing 11 min, Bol 13 min, Okeke 12 min , and i assumed team will add NOBODY in fa


It's simply impossible, with current pile of players add two rookies, play them and not flat out suck life out of that team and once again be perennial top 5 worst team.

I also removed : Ross, Mortiz Wagner, Admiral Schofield and RJ Hampton from this , i also delited Houstan from existence



Next year
Guards (96): Suggs 24 - Fultz 24 - drafted 24- Cole 16 - Houstan 8
SF Franz 30 - drafted 12 - Houstan 6
PF Paolo 30 - Isaac 10 - Okeke 8
C Wendell 30 Bamba 12 Isaac 6

That's 12 players AND then injuries. your not going to go through the season healthy you need some depth

Obviously that doesn't include Harris, really should go at this deadline and maximize value. If the plan is to add FA guard in in offseason, may as well move one of Fultz or Cole now too. It's possible we draft two guards or draft one and trade a pick for a guard. If we are making two picks, probably should try for one guard and the other a wing...unless there is just too good of value to pass up.

Bol is not in there anywhere either...probably should try and move him if we can get something back, but I am ok with him being depth too.
I'd be ok moving Okeke and Bamba too, but I don't think we will get value back.
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#213 » by JoshuaPotter » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:15 pm

5 2nd round picks.....for Jae Crowder

What IS this NBA?
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Post#214 » by Rick Rolled » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:20 pm

League-wide crickets for the past 30 minutes or so.
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Post#215 » by DiplomaticMagic » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:21 pm

I just want a juicy rumor lol
Play Jase or Trade for Alvarado
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Post#216 » by KillMonger » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:22 pm

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Post#217 » by Knightro » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:24 pm

DiplomaticMagic wrote:I just want a juicy rumor lol


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Post#219 » by OhioRock3 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:30 pm

*literally no Magic rumors*

Me: oh yeah it's all coming together
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#220 » by jezzerinho » Thu Feb 9, 2023 6:39 pm

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