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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2001 » by Bakomagic » Mon Mar 6, 2023 4:12 pm

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eyriq wrote:From the draft board, clyde seems like a legit draft opinion to track.

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That's actually a good mock except I wanna know why Black is raated so high? He is maybe in the 7th-10th range for me



Agree, Black is talented but disappears into the background too much imo. He will need develop more confidence and become an alpha to live up to that high of a selection.
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Post#2002 » by Knightro » Mon Mar 6, 2023 9:13 pm

Ducklett wrote:I truly dont understand how you guys are so infatuated with nick Smith jr, a guy shoots 34% from 3 as a "shooter", and in the same breath say that ausar Thompson, a guy who shoots 33% from 3, cant shoot.


Not sure where you're getting your numbers, but Ausar Thompson only shot 29.8% from 3PT and 66.2% from the FT line in 16 regular season OTE games.

https://overtimeelite.com/players/cbb0c3ec-f9f2-43e6-bb6e-6e4ef5702d92/seasons/e130bb01-9005-4690-83e6-320eec091f1f

His brother Amen was even worse, shooting 25.0% from 3PT and 65.6 from the FT line.

I know every game counts, but if you eliminate the four games Nick Smith left this year early because he got hurt, he's shooting 36.4% from 3PT and 78.9% from the FT line.

Smith only played 41 minutes total from December 17th to February 18th, missing 15 full games and parts of 3 others.

Over the last five games since he's returned from injury, he's at 37.9% from 3PT.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2003 » by RookieStar » Mon Mar 6, 2023 9:31 pm

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eyriq wrote:From the draft board, clyde seems like a legit draft opinion to track.



That's actually a good mock except I wanna know why Black is raated so high? He is maybe in the 7th-10th range for me



Agree, Black is talented but disappears into the background too much imo. He will need develop more confidence and become an alpha to live up to that high of a selection.


When Nick Smith was injured, he actually took on more scoring load. However when he came back, Black reverted to the Point Guard duties..
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Post#2004 » by RookieStar » Mon Mar 6, 2023 9:37 pm

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Ducklett wrote:I truly dont understand how you guys are so infatuated with nick Smith jr, a guy shoots 34% from 3 as a "shooter", and in the same breath say that ausar Thompson, a guy who shoots 33% from 3, cant shoot.

Of the top 25 shooters by percentage in the league, 15 of them play less than 30 minutes a game. If you just want guys that Jack up 3s, we can grab some of them kn the cheap.


This is exactly why I cannot see some infatuation with Keyonte George. Yeh George is an interesting prospect. But he is not a JJ Redick type shooter.


Because JJ, despite being an awesome 3pt shooter, needed to be setup to be able to shoot the 3. JJ needed the LandLord to attract the double teams from the opposing team in order to be open enough to shoot. Keyonte OTH can take his man off the dribble and either take it in or make himself open to shoot even logo 3s
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Post#2005 » by MasterGMer » Mon Mar 6, 2023 9:43 pm

We don't need the Thompson twins, they can not shoot. And shooting should be our biggest priority.

However, I see us trading both of our picks
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Post#2006 » by yoyojw17 » Mon Mar 6, 2023 9:53 pm

MasterGMer wrote:We don't need the Thompson twins, they can not shoot. And shooting should be our biggest priority.

However, I see us trading both of our picks

Depending on what they do. If they go swinging for the fences with both picks with perimeter talent... i would be down for a dick/miller and thompson combination. If they wanted a big for one of the picks i would be a little less pushing for that. BUT.... if it is believed that their talents will transfer.... they would still be a hard pass. A miller/dick and GG jackson draft would be fun to see too!
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Post#2007 » by VFX » Mon Mar 6, 2023 10:33 pm

MasterGMer wrote:We don't need the Thompson twins, they can not shoot. And shooting should be our biggest priority.

However, I see us trading both of our picks


Who is Orlando trading both picks for?

If you say some kind of all-star, then make sure the outgoing salary matches and the team is definitely blowing it up.
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Post#2008 » by Ducklett » Mon Mar 6, 2023 10:39 pm

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Ducklett wrote:I truly dont understand how you guys are so infatuated with nick Smith jr, a guy shoots 34% from 3 as a "shooter", and in the same breath say that ausar Thompson, a guy who shoots 33% from 3, cant shoot.


Not sure where you're getting your numbers, but Ausar Thompson only shot 29.8% from 3PT and 66.2% from the FT line in 16 regular season OTE games.

https://overtimeelite.com/players/cbb0c3ec-f9f2-43e6-bb6e-6e4ef5702d92/seasons/e130bb01-9005-4690-83e6-320eec091f1f

His brother Amen was even worse, shooting 25.0% from 3PT and 65.6 from the FT line.

I know every game counts, but if you eliminate the four games Nick Smith left this year early because he got hurt, he's shooting 36.4% from 3PT and 78.9% from the FT line.

Smith only played 41 minutes total from December 17th to February 18th, missing 15 full games and parts of 3 others.

Over the last five games since he's returned from injury, he's at 37.9% from 3PT.


Based on the SI article about Ausar being bigger with some of the team's scouts than his brother, it said he was shooting 33% in the regular season and playoffs, perhaps the 29.8% number counts the preseason, which they appear to have? It also could have been I didn't check the date and it was from weeks ago and he shot bad the last month, which is possible.

For the record, the only post top 5 guy I am sold on is Gradey Dick because he does one thing (3 point shooting) at an NBA level. All the other guys are filled with warts and question marks. The only reason I would be willing to lotto ticket one of the Thompsons is because all the scouts are high on them and one of them might fall to us when we pick at 7 or 8.
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Post#2009 » by drsd » Mon Mar 6, 2023 10:41 pm

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MasterGMer wrote:We don't need the Thompson twins, they can not shoot. And shooting should be our biggest priority.

However, I see us trading both of our picks


Who is Orlando trading both picks for?

If you say some kind of all-star, then make sure the outgoing salary matches and the team is definitely blowing it up.


Maybe for a Dejounte Murray-type.


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Post#2010 » by Bensational » Mon Mar 6, 2023 10:44 pm

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eyriq wrote:From the draft board, clyde seems like a legit draft opinion to track.

clyde21 wrote:pre march madness update



That's actually a good mock except I wanna know why Black is raated so high? He is maybe in the 7th-10th range for me


I really like Black, but not for our team. I don’t think he’ll develop the scorer’s knack, so he’s more of a Simmons/Dyson/Barnes type with great defense and passing but a potential liability when he’s not doing those things. He could very well become an essential glue guy for a team, like Marcus Smart/Draymond, but we’ve already got Suggs to play that role.

I can’t figure out why that mock has Miller drafted so low. No prospect has done enough to put them on his tier, IMO.
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Post#2011 » by RookieStar » Tue Mar 7, 2023 1:13 am

Bensational wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
eyriq wrote:From the draft board, clyde seems like a legit draft opinion to track.



That's actually a good mock except I wanna know why Black is raated so high? He is maybe in the 7th-10th range for me


I really like Black, but not for our team. I don’t think he’ll develop the scorer’s knack, so he’s more of a Simmons/Dyson/Barnes type with great defense and passing but a potential liability when he’s not doing those things. He could very well become an essential glue guy for a team, like Marcus Smart/Draymond, but we’ve already got Suggs to play that role.

I can’t figure out why that mock has Miller drafted so low. No prospect has done enough to put them on his tier, IMO.


As i kept saying, when NSJ was out, he had more of a scoring mentality and his numbers did go up. However when NSJ came back, he took a back seat again. I wanna know of he has a laid back mindset or was it by design that he defer to NSJ.

Also, maybe that mock put into account Millers status with the law? Maybe he might drop because of it? Who knows...
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Post#2012 » by Bensational » Tue Mar 7, 2023 1:26 am



Brief but relevant (and nice that Paolo and Franz got shoutouts). Miller is the complete package. I really hope we can land top 3 this draft, because those top 3 guys will push us into contention fast!
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Post#2013 » by Skin » Tue Mar 7, 2023 1:44 am

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Brief but relevant (and nice that Paolo and Franz got shoutouts). Miller is the complete package. I really hope we can land top 3 this draft, because those top 3 guys will push us into contention fast!

Would you give up both of our picks and Suggs to get him?
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Post#2014 » by basketballRob » Tue Mar 7, 2023 2:13 am

Black was a high school football star like Paolo and Suggs. He was a wide receiver.

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Post#2015 » by Bensational » Tue Mar 7, 2023 2:35 am

Skin wrote:
Bensational wrote:

Brief but relevant (and nice that Paolo and Franz got shoutouts). Miller is the complete package. I really hope we can land top 3 this draft, because those top 3 guys will push us into contention fast!

Would you give up both of our picks and Suggs to get him?


I wouldn’t hesitate to trade both our picks for any of the top 3. Adding Suggs feels unnecessary, and I’d refrain because I think he’s good for the team. I’d happily add Cole, Isaac or Fultz.

C/WCJ
Paolo/Bol
Wagner/?
Miller/?
FVV/Suggs

That’s the team I’d like to see. Not sure who the C or backup wings are.
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Post#2016 » by eyriq » Tue Mar 7, 2023 3:08 am

I'm really high on this kid. Strong, good at moving with the ball, in fact got to the basket at will and created for himself and others, and has a great looking three point shot. Seems like a potential point forward or playmaking wing in the NBA.

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Post#2017 » by Knightro » Tue Mar 7, 2023 4:16 am

MasterGMer wrote:However, I see us trading both of our picks


Trading both picks would be interesting.

I would say in order for that to happen, the Magic would have to not hit 1 or 2 in the draft lottery and the player coming back in return would have to be a legitimate all-star.

I just don't know who fits that bill.
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Post#2018 » by DiplomaticMagic » Tue Mar 7, 2023 8:11 am

All I want in this draft is for the Bulls pick to convey. Im more concerned with that than winning the lottery to be honest. I am really high on Jett Howard and Gradey Dick and they are both in teens in lots of mocks. Maybe I should root for a Bulls winning streak.

Play-in hope need to be dashed. Yeah we are 3.5 games behind but theres also 2 other teams ahead of us. So 3 teams have to lose and we have to win. Just seems unlikely to me. I am not going to root to lose though.

Brandon Miller to me is about as an equal prospect to Scoot Henderson. But if we draft him, whos going to play SG? I know Franz can play Sg but full-time? And with this whole gun incident, I cant see us drafting him with these 2 things in mind.

Keyonte George and Nick Smith Jr look good, I just hope if we do draft one of them, they turn out to be a knock down shooter. Not like Cole Anthony.

Also I think Im only one who likes Thompson twins.
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Post#2019 » by cedric76 » Tue Mar 7, 2023 8:36 am

It s time to start monitoring Taylor Hendricks
Suggs, AB, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, TDS , Jett
Franz, TDS, Panda
P5, JI, Panda, Moe
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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Post#2020 » by Ralof » Tue Mar 7, 2023 8:56 am

Fultz-G.Harris-Miller-Wagner-Banchero,hell of a 5 to close games with.

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