2023 NBA Draft Thread

[tiderulz]

Miller has similar issues that Jabari Smith had in college from my eyes

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what are those similar issues?

[RichCollab]

Miller has similar issues that Jabari Smith had in college from my eyes

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what are those similar issues?

Jabari is actually playing good the last couple of games. He was having big time confidence issues. Miller doesn’t seem to have that at all.

[fendilim]

Miller has similar issues that Jabari Smith had in college from my eyes

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Different players, imo.

Miller has better shot creation, but less of a shooter

JS is vice versa.

[Knightro]

The "Brandon Miller has similar issues to Jabari Smith" feels like an old scouting report take to me.

Miller's ability to score and finish inside the arc was not very good the first month or so, but it improved dramatically as the season went along.

Jabari only shot .435 from inside the arc last season. Miller's at .510 for the season and that jumped to .616 in SEC conference play.

[Bensational]

Miller can actually put the ball in the floor and get to the hoop, Jabari could never do that. I was big on Jabari last year because I naively thought his shot would carry over at the very least - and that’s been slow to come on. Miller has other tools in his arsenal which he can use to get his game going. Miller is a scorer first, and Jabari was elite 3+D.

[Skin]

I didn't like Millers' game today. Shucks.

[KillMonger]

Miller has similar issues that Jabari Smith had in college from my eyes

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what are those similar issues?

Shot selection..... Tends to settle at times.... Lack of explosion.... Issues with getting by defenders with his average first step.... So so ball handling.... Could finish better around the rim..... Similar to college Jabari....better but similar issues for me

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[Petre1978]

What is the difference between Scoot and Fultz? Plus Fultz Is a much more efficient mid range shooter plus more playmaking skills. Both struggle with 3s. I am not considering Scoot but Brandon Miller. We need shooters


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Fultz is a poor man's Scoot but without upside to improve. For Scoot to already have the skills he has is ridiculous. I appreciate Markelle's journey and what he has brought to the team. He plays hard, is a good teammate and has a positive impact. But we also know what he is at this point. If we got the No. 2, you take Scoot and let Fultz go. There isn't a team in the NBA who wouldn't do the same. Scoot probably puts us in the playoffs next year.

Scoot a 28% 3pt shooter

[Skybox]

What is the difference between Scoot and Fultz? Plus Fultz Is a much more efficient mid range shooter plus more playmaking skills. Both struggle with 3s. I am not considering Scoot but Brandon Miller. We need shooters


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Fultz is a poor man's Scoot but without upside to improve. For Scoot to already have the skills he has is ridiculous. I appreciate Markelle's journey and what he has brought to the team. He plays hard, is a good teammate and has a positive impact. But we also know what he is at this point. If we got the No. 2, you take Scoot and let Fultz go. There isn't a team in the NBA who wouldn't do the same. Scoot probably puts us in the playoffs next year.

Scoot a 28% 3pt shooter

Ja Morant is 31%…that’s his comp

[Petre1978]

Fultz is a poor man's Scoot but without upside to improve. For Scoot to already have the skills he has is ridiculous. I appreciate Markelle's journey and what he has brought to the team. He plays hard, is a good teammate and has a positive impact. But we also know what he is at this point. If we got the No. 2, you take Scoot and let Fultz go. There isn't a team in the NBA who wouldn't do the same. Scoot probably puts us in the playoffs next year.

Scoot a 28% 3pt shooter

Ja Morant is 31%…that’s his comp

Amazing
Let's hope Henderson has a different character than Morant.....

[tiderulz]

Miller has similar issues that Jabari Smith had in college from my eyes

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what are those similar issues?

Shot selection..... Tends to settle at times.... Lack of explosion.... Issues with getting by defenders with his average first step.... So so ball handling.... Could finish better around the rim..... Similar to college Jabari....better but similar issues for me

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hmmm, i saw that early not definitely not the past month or so. but every opinion is valid

[Knightro]

Scoot a 28% 3pt shooter

Couple things...

No. 1 - Scoot is 22-68 from 3PT in 25 G-League games this season. That isn't great, but that's 32.4% which is higher than 28%. He's also attempting nearly 3 per game, so his volume isn't a major issue. 32.4% from 3PT is equivalent to roughly 48.6% from 2PT.

Not including last night's 3-8 effort from midrange, Markelle Fultz is shooting 43.0% from 10-16 feet and 44.3% from 16-23 feet. So every single one of the Scoot's 3PT attempts, even at just 32.4%, are more efficient than any shot Fultz attempts outside of 10 feet.

The issue with Fultz goes deeper than people realize. I don't think this board collectively understands how much his lack of desire (and accuracy) shooting threes negatively impacts the offensive output of the entire team.

Bergmaniac posted something the other day that I think people need to really digest and understand...

When Markelle Fultz is on the court, the Magic only shoot 27.9 three points per 100 possessions.

No team has attempted that few three pointers since 2018-2019 and the league average hasn't been that low since 2016-2017.

At their current percentage (34.8%) they're only making about 9.7 3PT per 100 with Fultz on the court, which is about 29 points per game on threes.

The league average this year by teams is 34.1 3PT attempts. The league average this year by teams is 36.1%. That means on average NBA teams this season are generating about 37 points per game from behind the 3PT line.

You start looking closer and you realize that the more Fultz plays the wider the gap gets in terms of how badly the Magic are losing the math game every night.

On paper, it appears Scoot will A. attempt more threes, B. generate more 3PT attempts for his teammates and C. attempt more free throws than Fultz does. If he does all three of those things, he'll be far more valuable.

[Petre1978]

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[basketballRob]

The Bulls have 3 days off before their next game. After that, they have 3 B2Bs in their last 15 games, and I think it'll be a challenge for an older team.

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[cedric76]

Let's say we land the 2nd pick, would you trade it for Mikal bridges?

Brooklyn were rumoured to want 4 1st for him but I m sure they d jump on that offer

Not all 1st are equal, then you draft Hendricks with Chicago s pick



Fultz,suggs, Cole, MCW
Mikal,Harris,suggs
Franz, Mikal, Houstan, BOL
Paolo, Hendricks,JI, chuma
Wcj,Moe,goga

[Petre1978]

Let's say we land the 2nd pick, would you trade it for Mikal bridges?

Brooklyn were rumoured to want 4 1st for him but I m sure they d jump on that offer

Not all 1st are equal, then you draft Hendricks with Chicago s pick



Fultz,suggs, Cole, MCW
Mikal,Harris,suggs
Franz, Mikal, Houstan, BOL
Paolo, Hendricks,JI, chuma
Wcj,Moe,goga

You pass on Henderson or Miller for Mikal Bridges!!!!!
Wow!!!!

[fendilim]

Nick Smith = Malik Monk

[Skybox]

Let's say we land the 2nd pick, would you trade it for Mikal bridges?

Brooklyn were rumoured to want 4 1st for him but I m sure they d jump on that offer

Not all 1st are equal, then you draft Hendricks with Chicago s pick



Fultz,suggs, Cole, MCW
Mikal,Harris,suggs
Franz, Mikal, Houstan, BOL
Paolo, Hendricks,JI, chuma
Wcj,Moe,goga

Tempting...I love Bridges but can't do it...just can't miss out on another Ja Morant on a rookie scale...I WOULD trade CHI pick, DEN pick, and unprotected ORL 24 for Bridges (IF we get Scoot this year). That's a monster team, not even counting what we do with cap space...maybe a more offensive-minded Isaac replacement or a tough 2-way Big that can allow WCJ to move 4/5 AND a sniper (Cam Johnson or GTJ?). In this scenario, I waive Isaac/Fultz/Harris/Bol to clear cap or include them in Bridges deal as salary filler. The rotation below is somewhat pointless as nearly all of the players could shift spots for different matchups/chemistry. Lots of length, lots of defense, lots of 3pt shooting, still very young but huge upside at every spot (2 deep).

Scoot/Cole/MCW
Bridges/Suggs/Houstan
Franz/Cam Johnson?/Okeke
Paolo/WCJ/M. Wagner
Poeltl?/Goga/2rp

[cedric76]

Let's say we land the 2nd pick, would you trade it for Mikal bridges?

Brooklyn were rumoured to want 4 1st for him but I m sure they d jump on that offer

Not all 1st are equal, then you draft Hendricks with Chicago s pick



Fultz,suggs, Cole, MCW
Mikal,Harris,suggs
Franz, Mikal, Houstan, BOL
Paolo, Hendricks,JI, chuma
Wcj,Moe,goga

You pass on Henderson or Miller for Mikal Bridges!!!!!
Wow!!!!

Was just a question.

Because I saw people here saying that they d trade 4 1st for Mikal, just wanted to see if someone would trade 1 pick for him

As for Henderson I m not a fan at all
I like Miller but not a fan of his the gun story

[Petre1978]

Nick Smith = Malik Monk

Nein