Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part VIII)

MagicFan41 · Post #221 » by **MagicFan41** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:02 am

rcklsscognition wrote:
MagicFan41 wrote:Here it is Magic fans....the MEGA-TRADE to end all trades, IF we have to trade D12...

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/5950825

I absolutely LOVE this new team....I think it's way better than our current team. And it works for all teams involved (I would say maybe not for Houston, but like Ive said...they already greenlighted these moves in the previous Lakers-CP3 trade for some bizarre reason. It adds in a good defensive SF for GSW in Metta, which Mark Jackson would probably like a lot, as well as giving them young talent and shooters in Ryno+JJ. What do you guys think? Would you like it, and why or why wouldn't it get done?

Is that the only response? I was lookin for some actual responses lol. It's not that different from what the CP3 trade was gonna be. Hell, maybe we could toss in J-Rich at the trade deadline as well to sweeten the deal for GSW, maybe take back Biedrins for our backup C slot. I don't think this is a crazy trade at all....I think all teams seemingly benefit or get something they've been after, which is very rare.

magic04life · Post #222 » by **magic04life** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:03 am

pokerfan12 wrote:
magic04life wrote:How can anybody be against trading Dwight/Hedo for Bynum/Gasol?

If we made that trade, we'd still have a chance at winning the East. Bynum/Gasol/J-Rich/Jameer/JJ/ is a great core.

ummm maybe because Bynum has yet to play a full season. maybe because it would destroy the franchise if Bynum turns into another grant hill situation. those are just a few things that come to my mind besides his "potential".

That's not better than Brook Lopez and two first round picks?

ADRajX · Post #223 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:03 am

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
To be clear, the Clippers can waive Chauncey Billups and make him a free agent. They can't trade him.

Skin · Post #224 » by **Skin** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:03 am

magic_turk wrote:
magic04life wrote:How can anybody be against trading Dwight/Hedo for Bynum/Gasol?

If we made that trade, we'd still have a chance at winning the East. Bynum/Gasol/J-Rich/Jameer/JJ/ is a great core.

I would much rather we took the rebuild approach rather than try to compete with Pau/Bynum. The Lakers didn't come close last year AND they had Kobe..

Can you imagine a rebuild approach with Stan as the HC?

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The-Dawson · Post #225 » by **The-Dawson** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:03 am

Do the Lakers have a 1st round pick next year?

magic_turk · Post #226 » by **magic_turk** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:03 am

Hopefully the Magic organization has seen what NOH was able to get with CP3 so they change there mindset on the offers we have been getting..

SEBAS-07 · Post #227 » by **SEBAS-07** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:04 am

magic04life wrote:
magicfan4life05 wrote:If D12 gets traded I really hope the Magic can get something close to what the Hornets got...unfortunately none of our reported deals have come close to theirs...

I've been wondering this too.

Dwight is obviously a better player than CP3 but NOR is getting much better offers than we are.

Keep in mind Howard`s list, the Nets got Lopez and that is it, Mavericks got nothing, the best deal probably would come from the Lakers.

The-Dawson · Post #228 » by **The-Dawson** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:06 am

If we do trade with the Lakers it better be somethin like this
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ctj5gxv and whatever picks they can give up

cb1115 · Post #229 » by **cb1115** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:07 am

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Agent Andy Miller tells Yahoo! that Clippers won't be waiving Chauncey Billups.

CRUEL WORLD.

Post #230 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:08 am

cb1115 wrote:
SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Agent Andy Miller tells Yahoo! that Clippers won't be waiving Chauncey Billups.

CRUEL WORLD.

Not a big deal. I didn't want the Heat to pick him up.

gatorbait1689 · Post #231 » by **gatorbait1689** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:08 am

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
The Cleveland Cavaliers have amnestied Baron Davis.

Should we sign him for a 1 ONE (don't screw this up otis) ONE! year deal? to back up jameer

SEBAS-07 · Post #232 » by **SEBAS-07** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:08 am

SamAmicoFSO Sam Amico
Cavaliers have waived Baron Davis via NBA's new amnesty clause.
1 minute ago
If he clears waivers I`ll take him.

Post #233 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:09 am

gatorbait1689 wrote:AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
The Cleveland Cavaliers have amnestied Baron Davis.

Should we sign him for a 1 ONE (don't screw this up otis) ONE! year deal? to back up jameer

Yes, but watch NY swoop him up

Edit: Sorry, forgot he was injured. Probably not.

MagicFan41 · Post #234 » by **MagicFan41** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:09 am

The-Dawson wrote:If we do trade with the Lakers it better be somethin like this
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ctj5gxv and whatever picks they can give up

Right....and then hopefully flip Pau to Houston for what I've said: Martin+Scola+Dragin+picks. Check my trades above. Otis is too dumb to try to pull something awesome like that off though.

Tcarl67 · Post #235 » by **Tcarl67** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:11 am

Guys I have been along time reader of this forum and only recently started to reply to some of the threads.
I must admit that it is strongly due to Dwight being discussed in many trade rumors.
With all this speculation flying due to this I have been inclined to start dropping my 2 sense worth.
I do not like any of the trade proposals we have been receiving ie..Lopez young and not even close to the caliber player offensively as Dwight even though his low post game and blocks are pretty good. Bynum and/or Gasol together minute wise and skill would equal Dwight through Off and Def but they would not be used at the same time.
I truly don't believe a fair trade is out there for a even return. If it were me I would honestly just allow D12 to walk or commit to us. At least we are in control and we are prepared for the outcome. Shed what we can and prepare to re-build.
AS I do not believe most, if not anything in the media, I am inclined through my own heart and mind that D12 is as good as out of here. This i truly believe is what he wants. Its the lack of news and admission on his and the organizations part that we all still cling to hopes he may return as an Orlando Magic player.
I for one am an Orlando Magic fan and have been since their inaugural year (1989) and I wish to STOP all this DAM nonsense and get on with it already. I want something to cheer for. This is sports. It is meant to entertain and I right now am not entertained. I feel like I lost my dog of 16 years and it isnt fun anymore talking , reading and listening anymore.
I'm a realist and when something is outta my reach I grab for something that I can!

Post #236 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:12 am

MagicFan41 wrote:
The-Dawson wrote:If we do trade with the Lakers it better be somethin like this
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ctj5gxv and whatever picks they can give up

Right....and then hopefully flip Pau to Houston for what I've said: Martin+Scola+Dragin+picks. Check my trades above. Otis is too dumb to try to pull something awesome like that off though.

What is very interesting about that trade is perhaps still having an opportunity to pursue D-Will afterwards? Idk if that's possible, but no Dwight in Brooklyn means no D-Will either. D-Will, K-Mart, and Bynum would compete in the East.

J Lantern · Post #237 » by **J Lantern** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:13 am

magic04life wrote:How can anybody be against trading Dwight/Hedo for Bynum/Gasol?

If we made that trade, we'd still have a chance at winning the East. Bynum/Gasol/J-Rich/Jameer/JJ/ is a great core.

Skill wise Bynum is great but he gets hurt every 5 seconds. How can you want a guy who is constantly injured??????? The last four seasons straight Bynum has missed a ton of time. How can you put faith in this guy not getting hurt? I would only want Bynum if you can guarantee me that he wont get hurt. Which cant be done.

magic04life · Post #238 » by **magic04life** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:14 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
MagicFan41 wrote:
The-Dawson wrote:If we do trade with the Lakers it better be somethin like this
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ctj5gxv and whatever picks they can give up

Right....and then hopefully flip Pau to Houston for what I've said: Martin+Scola+Dragin+picks. Check my trades above. Otis is too dumb to try to pull something awesome like that off though.

What is very interesting about that trade is perhaps still having an opportunity to pursue D-Will afterwards? Idk if that's possible, but no Dwight in Brooklyn means no D-Will either. D-Will, K-Mart, and Bynum would compete in the East.

Wow, that'd be an awesome trade. The core of our team would be made up of Bynum/Scola/Martin/J-Rich/Jameer/JJ

We'd definately be a top tier team with that core!

fendilim · Post #239 » by **fendilim** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:14 am

If we're trading Dwight, I think it would be stupid not to do it now. Unless we're getting a good pick in return for 2012's draft.

Nolimit1211 · Post #240 » by **Nolimit1211** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:14 am

B.Diddy amnestied?! Bring'em IN!

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