Game 36: Orlando Magic(22-13) @ Washington Wizards(7-26)

arkknight1988 · Post #221 » by **arkknight1988** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:17 am

checked my gamecast at work and saw duhon bad pass/duhon traveling/duhon lost ball. if we tank for a high draft pick next year duhon is our guy.

Deezy · Post #222 » by **Deezy** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:17 am

Yeah, because five turnovers in nine minutes is just what we need from our backup PG.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #223 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:18 am

thelead wrote:
HeyIt'sMe wrote:
Kevaroo wrote:Is Duhon posting on realgm during the game to try and make this meltdown JRichs fault?

Duhon sucks, but J'Rich's bricked dunk started the whole thing.

It wasn't duhon's 3 straight to's????????????????

I doubt it was JRich's missed dunk that caused the comeback dude.

arkknight1988 · Post #224 » by **arkknight1988** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:19 am

the fact that duhon is a multimillionare gives me hope for myself.

HeyIt'sMe · Post #225 » by **HeyIt'sMe** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:20 am

I doubt it was JRich's missed dunk that caused the comeback dude.

He makes the dunk, they go up 29-11. Everyone wants to blame Duhon (rightly so) but that was a momentum swing, whether you want to admit it or not. Instead Washington comes down, gets a three point play - a five point swing right there.

Post #226 » by **ChosenSavior** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:20 am

arkknight1988 wrote:the fact that duhon is a multimillionare gives me hope for myself.

That's my motivation every single day I wake up in the morning.

thelead · Post #227 » by **thelead** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:21 am

richboy wrote:
I just stating the reality. It is tough to expect a coach to instantly put a guy with no real nba history. Who's career in the league has not been good so far. I think when Stan looking at another PG he thinking maybe we should trade for a Sessions. Few weeks ago maybe we should sign Nate Robinson. You saw the Bulls get Mike James. He might even be looking at Jwill at courtside and say maybe we need to see what kind of shape he is in.

I'm not saying Ish can't play. I'm just stating Stan going to look and say is Smith better than Duhon. Even as bad as Duhon has been it isn't like he is much different than when we gave him a big contract. His weaknesses and strengths are still the same. So it is going to be tough to justify Smith in front of Duhon in the rotation. He going to look at Duhon and see a pretty good assist to turnover ratio. Shooting near 40% from 3. Not the worse on defense. I know he probably knows Duhon sucks but he has to be convinced that Ish is better than that. Tough to do when you have a 41% career TS.

He had 3 straight turnovers. He does that often. Ish would not. I would bet on it. And even if he did, what's the worst that can happen? 4 straight turnovers for ish? :lol:

I would take my chances with ish after what duhon has shown us this year.

Post #228 » by **ChosenSavior** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:22 am

You know, just getting Duhon off this team would be a massive improvement for us. I'm dead serious.

thelead · Post #229 » by **thelead** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:22 am

HeyIt'sMe wrote:
I doubt it was JRich's missed dunk that caused the comeback dude.

He makes the dunk, they go up 29-11. Everyone wants to blame Duhon (rightly so) but that was a momentum swing, whether you want to admit it or not. Instead Washington comes down, gets a three point play - a five point swing right there.

I would have agreed with you if we missed shots. Duhon didn't even allow his team to get shots up.

jezzer45 · Post #230 » by **jezzer45** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:23 am

what is so hard to understand. Duhon sucks, ish has some potential. Your team suffers when duhon plays, ish, if he tried can not be that bad. So what does svg do: ride it out with duhon. If he could change his loyalty for his players to play whoever is giving you the best chance to win I think the magic would have a legit lock on the 3rd seed.

arkknight1988 · Post #231 » by **arkknight1988** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:23 am

thanks for now choosing to play like a dog nelson. his value is at an all time low

rcklsscognition · Post #232 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:24 am

richboy wrote:
I just stating the reality. It is tough to expect a coach to instantly put a guy with no real nba history. Who's career in the league has not been good so far. I think when Stan looking at another PG he thinking maybe we should trade for a Sessions. Few weeks ago maybe we should sign Nate Robinson. You saw the Bulls get Mike James. He might even be looking at Jwill at courtside and say maybe we need to see what kind of shape he is in.

I'm not saying Ish can't play. I'm just stating Stan going to look and say is Smith better than Duhon. Even as bad as Duhon has been it isn't like he is much different than when we gave him a big contract. His weaknesses and strengths are still the same. So it is going to be tough to justify Smith in front of Duhon in the rotation. He going to look at Duhon and see a pretty good assist to turnover ratio. Shooting near 40% from 3. Not the worse on defense. I know he probably knows Duhon sucks but he has to be convinced that Ish is better than that. Tough to do when you have a 41% career TS.

From what I've heard from Stan, Stan asked for Ish. He went to Otis and asked for him. I'm not sure exactly what happened, but I know Stan asked for specific skills, Otis found some people, and either Stan signed off, or Otis did it on his own, but Ish was signed based on what Stan requested. They made this decision with needs in mind. Like I said in my earlier response, I think there is an over emphasis on our 2nd string point guard and the skills needed to be one. That doesn't mean Duhon gets a pass for sucking. We do need speed and penetration to counter our 2nd unit's inability to move the ball in towards the rim. Duhon doesn't offer than, Ish does. He's shown it.

That's the reason this is frustrating for me. Stan asked for Ish, got him, when he's played he's been much better than Duhon, yet we still see Duhon. We don't have 3 years to evaluate Ish. Might not even matter in 2 weeks.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #233 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:24 am

HeyIt'sMe wrote:
I doubt it was JRich's missed dunk that caused the comeback dude.

He makes the dunk, they go up 29-11. Everyone wants to blame Duhon (rightly so) but that was a momentum swing, whether you want to admit it or not. Instead Washington comes down, gets a three point play - a five point swing right there.

I dont really care that much tbh but I disagree. Duhon was born swinging the momentum the wrong way.

rcklsscognition · Post #234 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:25 am

For those not in the free agency/trade thread...this just posted

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏ @MisterRudolph
Magic news coming in 30 minutes ...

rcklsscognition · Post #235 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:26 am

arkknight1988 wrote:thanks for now choosing to play like a dog nelson. his value is at an all time low

I think Nelson's value around the league is much higher than any of us tend to think. If he does get moved, I think we'll be surprised what he brings.

thelead · Post #236 » by **thelead** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:26 am

rcklsscognition wrote:For those not in the free agency/trade thread...this just posted

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏ @MisterRudolph
Magic news coming in 30 minutes ...

Epic Half Time trade?????? :pray:

arkknight1988 · Post #237 » by **arkknight1988** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:26 am

otis needs to answer for this duhon signing, now stan won't quit playing the scrub

rcklsscognition · Post #238 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:27 am

thelead wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:For those not in the free agency/trade thread...this just posted

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏ @MisterRudolph
Magic news coming in 30 minutes ...

Epic Half Time trade??????

Duhon for a bag of cracker jacks.

arkknight1988 · Post #239 » by **arkknight1988** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:27 am

rcklsscognition wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:thanks for now choosing to play like a dog nelson. his value is at an all time low

I think Nelson's value around the league is much higher than any of us tend to think. If he does get moved, I think we'll be surprised what he brings.

u think so?

Blue_and_Whte · Post #240 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:28 am

ChosenSavior wrote:You know, just getting Duhon off this team would be a massive improvement for us. I'm dead serious.

It would....Everytime I see Duhon I want to punch him in his effed up looking nose.