Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition)

AshBlackstone · Post #221 » by **AshBlackstone** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:11 am

rcklsscognition wrote:
AshBlackstone wrote:

Not what I said at all. But it's clear that you implied that Lopez isn't that bad on defense, which is laughable.

It's actually the opposite. I said that Dwight is a defensive center and Lopez is an offensive one that requires the Magic to completely change their philosophy and style of play away from a stretch 4 (added offense to a non-offensive C) to a traditional rebounder/defender 4 (added to account for lack of rebounding and defense at the C).

You referenced their shotblocking to imply that it wasn't a big difference. But that's an excellent backpedal. It doesn't matter, though. Your overall evaluation of Lopez is laughable.

Glen Davis provides the same production offensively from the position, with better rebounding and defense.

darthmerrick · Post #222 » by **darthmerrick** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:12 am

ehmjay1 wrote:
AdamTheGreek wrote:
ehmjay1 wrote:
What power does he have? He's going to say he won't extend there? ...there's not much else he can do. Nothing would be more appeasing than Dwight getting screwed into something he doesn't want, and the magic getting young prospects.

You screw Dwight and no meaningful free agent will want to come here for the next few years. You have to play basketball politics. Agents won't recommend us as a destination if we don't adhere to the wishes of a star player.

Even if that were the case, trading him to BK makes us the laughing stock of the league. How many teams will want to trade with a team that helped construct the next "super team".

Also, while I agree that we will have a problem with Fegan's clients, I don't see it being a problem with other agents. At the end of the day money talks.

This!
Who does Fegan represent that's worth signing other then Dwight? Screw their ultimatums. Magic need to stick up for whats right.

thelead · Post #223 » by **thelead** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:12 am

MagicTownBaller wrote:Hey, is anyone listening to Jarrod Rudolph speak right now?

where?

Nolimit1211 · Post #224 » by **Nolimit1211** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:13 am

Skip Bayless ‏@RealSkipBayless

Can't believe any rival GM will help Orl trade DHoward to potential "super team" w/ Nets. Can't believe Magic would take BLopez in return.

MagicTownBaller · Post #225 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:13 am

thelead wrote:
MagicTownBaller wrote:Hey, is anyone listening to Jarrod Rudolph speak right now?

where?

I think it was 670thescore.

MagicTownBaller · Post #226 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:14 am

Nolimit1211 wrote:
Skip Bayless ‏@RealSkipBayless

Can't believe any rival GM will help Orl trade DHoward to potential "super team" w/ Nets. Can't believe Magic would take BLopez in return.

I agree with Skip.

AshBlackstone · Post #227 » by **AshBlackstone** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:14 am

MagicTownBaller wrote:Hey, is anyone listening to Jarrod Rudolph speak right now?

What's he saying?

clevermelvin · Post #228 » by **clevermelvin** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:14 am

MagicTownBaller wrote:Hey, is anyone listening to Jarrod Rudolph speak right now?

this is one of those questions which someone would tweet and add a #StuffNoOneSays to it

Orlando Prodigy · Post #229 » by **Orlando Prodigy** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:14 am

It's always funny Twitter searching things on my phone and finding Twitters that I presume to be fake reporting news.

https://twitter.com/ChadEvansNBA

Nolimit1211 · Post #230 » by **Nolimit1211** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:15 am

MagicTownBaller wrote:
Nolimit1211 wrote:
Skip Bayless ‏@RealSkipBayless

Can't believe any rival GM will help Orl trade DHoward to potential "super team" w/ Nets. Can't believe Magic would take BLopez in return.

I agree with Skip.

Granted it isn't as cut and dry as that.

90% won't make an offer cause he'll bolt, other teams offers aren't that much better.

cvMagic · Post #231 » by **cvMagic** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:15 am

WeAreVenom wrote:
DJRajX wrote:Stick it to Dwight... ship him to Houston... don't give him what he wants... plus it's a better rebuilding package... no brainer here.

That's what I'm saying....

Even if we're looking to rebuild, HOU offer tops this catastrophe we're about to help facilitate.

But no one knows what the Houston offer is. They're not going to give away all of their picks and talent for one year of Dwight. I'm positive they're not offering as much as you guys are speculating at this point.

MagicTownBaller · Post #232 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:16 am

AshBlackstone wrote:
MagicTownBaller wrote:Hey, is anyone listening to Jarrod Rudolph speak right now?

What's he saying?

I'm not listening, that's why I was asking.

cvMagic · Post #233 » by **cvMagic** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:18 am

AdamTheGreek wrote:
ehmjay1 wrote:
AdamTheGreek wrote:I
You screw Dwight and no meaningful free agent will want to come here for the next few years. You have to play basketball politics. Agents won't recommend us as a destination if we don't adhere to the wishes of a star player.

I don't agree with this. I've thought heavily about this. We have always been a popular destination for free agents. At the end of the day, I think even the players realize that Orlando has been put in a bad situation by Howard.

You can't put your own franchise in a worse situation, and take a lesser deal than someone else is offering just because the disgruntled player doesn't like it.

If someone could name an example of team screwing themselves in free agency because they didn't "play ball" with a disgrutled player, I might be more inclined to agree.

We are an upper third destination spot in the NBA. Why? Because of the tax breaks our state offers. If we don't send Dwight to Brooklyn, no one will care by the time we're ready to pay a free agent big money. At the end of the day, they just want the money.

Cleveland is about to have some money available, so we'll see that they will have no issue attracting free agents. Bynum is already listing it as a place he wants to play...and everyone thought they'd never draw anyone again. I don't think this a legit concern, and more of a myth.

Bynum isn't listing cleveland as one of his destinations.
He's listing KYRIE IRVING as one of his destinations.

It takes a superstar to land a superstar nowadays.

magic_turk · Post #234 » by **magic_turk** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:18 am

Losing Dwight is bad, watching Dwight knock us out of the playoffs hmm...

Nolimit1211 · Post #235 » by **Nolimit1211** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:18 am

magic_turk wrote:Losing Dwight is bad, watching Dwight knock us out of the playoffs hmm...

Believing we'd make the playoff... hmmm even worse.

magicburt · Post #236 » by **magicburt** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:19 am

Playoffs!?

cvMagic · Post #237 » by **cvMagic** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:19 am

Nolimit1211 wrote:
Skip Bayless ‏@RealSkipBayless

Can't believe any rival GM will help Orl trade DHoward to potential "super team" w/ Nets. Can't believe Magic would take BLopez in return.

Well... he's not wrong.

kman1023 · Post #238 » by **kman1023** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:19 am

I love this board.

troybiles · Post #239 » by **troybiles** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:20 am

I'm just going to expect the worst and hope for the best. I am going to put my faith in rob for a couple of years to see his plan develop. I'm more excited to see the young talent we will have on this team this year and how the new coach will develop them. I like our draft picks this year and I'm also happy with Harper and liggins. I think I would like to see Harper play the sf spot for a season to feel him out.

ehmjay1 · Post #240 » by **ehmjay1** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:20 am

cvMagic wrote:
Nolimit1211 wrote:
Skip Bayless ‏@RealSkipBayless

Can't believe any rival GM will help Orl trade DHoward to potential "super team" w/ Nets. Can't believe Magic would take BLopez in return.

Well... he's not wrong.

You know things are bad when you find yourself agreeing with Skip.