Official Speculation Thread (Pt. L "Trade Deadline" Edition)

thelead · Post #221 » by **thelead** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:21 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
LC_Magic wrote:^ not a bad shout there, works well for everyone

How is that? Memphis drops a SF and get just a PF in return to play behind Randolph. Sure, they save money, but basically just took themselves out of any chance they had of competing for a title.

And that was my point last week. Most owners view their club as an investment. It's about the money for a lot of them. OKC won't pay the tax and neither will the Spurs.

Cigamodnalro · Post #222 » by **Cigamodnalro** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:22 pm

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Sources say deal will morph to include third team to take Calderon, w/Detroit at front of line to land Spaniard after chasing him all season
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Going online now: ESPN sources say Grizzlies and Raps have deal in place to swap Rudy Gay and Hamed Haddadi for Ed Davis and Jose Calderon
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LC_Magic · Post #223 » by **LC_Magic** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:29 pm

thelead wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
LC_Magic wrote:^ not a bad shout there, works well for everyone

How is that? Memphis drops a SF and get just a PF in return to play behind Randolph. Sure, they save money, but basically just took themselves out of any chance they had of competing for a title.

And that was my point last week. Most owners view their club as an investment. It's about the money for a lot of them. OKC won't pay the tax and neither will the Spurs.

yep, NBA teams don't want tax or to overpay player, for all Gay's talent he earn's a lot! if he was here and we got a young PF and got a salary dump would you be pleased or understand the move?

glennathan · Post #224 » by **glennathan** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:43 pm

ESPN NBA - Grizzlies have agreed in principle to trade F Rudy Gay (17.2 ppg) to Raptors, Marc Stein reports

MagicTownBaller · Post #225 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:46 pm

glennathan wrote:ESPN NBA - Grizzlies have agreed in principle to trade F Rudy Gay (17.2 ppg) to Raptors, Marc Stein reports

NOOO! I want Terrence Ross and Jerryd Bayless on Orlando! Dream come true for me!

PeePee la Fritz · Post #226 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:46 pm

I'd be livid if I were a Grizz fan. They are a top 3-4 team in the league and ownership just pulled the plug on the season. I understand and agree Gay is overpaid, but I'd have a tough time swallowing this. I blame Hollinger....that bald headed nerd **** :lol:

glennathan · Post #227 » by **glennathan** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:02 pm

A deal for the Memphis Grizzlies to send Rudy Gay to the Toronto Raptors has been agreed upon, according to sources.

The Raptors would send out Jose Calderon and Ed Davis while acquiring Gay and Hamed Haddadi.

The deal will eventually involve a third team taking Calderon, possibly the Detroit Pistons or Dallas Mavericks.

The Grizzlies could acquire either Tayshaun Prince or Corey Maggette, two veteran small forwards in the final season of the current deals.

Via Marc Stein/ESPN

BadMofoPimp · Post #228 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:04 pm

Grizz just got under the Luxury tax. They could have made one more run at the Finals this year and blew it up during the summer.

Hollinger is a complete idiot.

londoncollin · Post #229 » by **londoncollin** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:06 pm

New ownership wants a reset, I guess.

I don't get why they don't want Calderon though. He's a solid expiring. I guess if they can get an expiring SF that's why.

I'm just thinking out loud. Ignore me.

glennathan · Post #230 » by **glennathan** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:09 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Grizz just got under the Luxury tax. They could have made one more run at the Finals this year and blew it up during the summer.

Hollinger is a complete idiot.

What Exactly does Hollinger have involved in this?

glennathan · Post #231 » by **glennathan** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:11 pm

I want to know what happens with Demar DeRozen now that Rudy Gay is going there

thelead · Post #232 » by **thelead** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:14 pm

glennathan wrote:I want to know what happens with Demar DeRozen now that Rudy Gay is going there

Nothing... until Ross is ready to take over the sg position.

BadMofoPimp · Post #233 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:22 pm

glennathan wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Grizz just got under the Luxury tax. They could have made one more run at the Finals this year and blew it up during the summer.

Hollinger is a complete idiot.

What Exactly does Hollinger have involved in this?

Isn't he their new Salary cap guru?

rcklsscognition · Post #234 » by **rcklsscognition** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:24 pm

glennathan wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Grizz just got under the Luxury tax. They could have made one more run at the Finals this year and blew it up during the summer.

Hollinger is a complete idiot.

What Exactly does Hollinger have involved in this?

Hollinger is Grizzlies president of basketball operations, he's involved in trade talks and is probably sitting next to the GM advising him on trades.

shadrock · Post #235 » by **shadrock** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:28 pm

:::From Hoopsworld RE: JJ Redick:::

No Deals For J.J. Redick: Despite an ending contract and virtually no means to secure his free agent rights, it looks like the Orlando Magic are going to hold the line on trading J.J. Redick.

Things in the NBA are always subject to change based on a phone call, however more than half the league has tried to pry Redick out of Orlando via trade and found very little interest from Orlando’s front office in making a deal.

Redick has been in constant communication with the Magic front office and they have kept Redick and his agent in the loop on the marketplace. The Magic are not letting Redick drive their process, but they are sharing information with J.J. and the word is there is a better than average chance the Magic not only hang on to Redick past the trade deadline, but that they may have the best shot at re-signing him this summer.

Things can and often do change at the deadline, but the early word is that Redick may end up right where he is today and if greener pastures present themselves in the off-season Orlando would look to sign-and-trade him.

ead more at http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-pm-the-tr ... QSoTXCg.99

shadrock · Post #236 » by **shadrock** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:32 pm

shadrock wrote::::From Hoopsworld RE: JJ Redick:::

No Deals For J.J. Redick: Despite an ending contract and virtually no means to secure his free agent rights, it looks like the Orlando Magic are going to hold the line on trading J.J. Redick.

Things in the NBA are always subject to change based on a phone call, however more than half the league has tried to pry Redick out of Orlando via trade and found very little interest from Orlando’s front office in making a deal.

Redick has been in constant communication with the Magic front office and they have kept Redick and his agent in the loop on the marketplace. The Magic are not letting Redick drive their process, but they are sharing information with J.J. and the word is there is a better than average chance the Magic not only hang on to Redick past the trade deadline, but that they may have the best shot at re-signing him this summer.

Things can and often do change at the deadline, but the early word is that Redick may end up right where he is today and if greener pastures present themselves in the off-season Orlando would look to sign-and-trade him.

ead more at http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-pm-the-tr ... QSoTXCg.99

My take on this for what its worth... This is just posturing by Henny. The best offers wont come forward until right before the deadline, thats how it works in this league, so if henny looks to be considering the early lower offers, the better offers will never come. By doing this, he has essentially set the bar a lot higher than where it currently is, and has also given himself some leverage by making it known that he is more than willing to resign him if needed.

I think were in a good position here. Henny doing all the right things, communicating clearly with JJ etc.

glennathan · Post #237 » by **glennathan** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:35 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
glennathan wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Grizz just got under the Luxury tax. They could have made one more run at the Finals this year and blew it up during the summer.

Hollinger is a complete idiot.

What Exactly does Hollinger have involved in this?

Hollinger is Grizzlies president of basketball operations, he's involved in trade talks and is probably sitting next to the GM advising him on trades.

I did not know that. Good to know

Post #238 » by **Bensational** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:41 pm

Wow. Terrible deal for the Grizz.

ZBo will be the next to go whilst they groom Ed Davis.

Raps did well to land Gay. Now it's just a case of them making the pieces fit.

pakishazi · Post #239 » by **pakishazi** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:51 pm

Bensational wrote:Wow. Terrible deal for the Grizz.

ZBo will be the next to go whilst they groom Ed Davis.

Raps did well to land Gay. Now it's just a case of them making the pieces fit.

Couldn't agree more. Lowry will prolly go Nuts now! I'm surprised they didn't get rid of Bargnani. Maybe that will be a separate trade.

rcklsscognition · Post #240 » by **rcklsscognition** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:53 pm

So we are one less competitor away from a top 3 pick now. I fully expect the Wizards to pull it together, as will the Suns, so we should be hanging around with the Bobcats and Cavs for the bottom.