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Who should WeHam select at 6? (poll)

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Who should be our pick?

Bamba
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Young
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54%
Bridges
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10%
Porter
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10%
JJJ
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7%
Carter
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3%
Sexton
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2%
 
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Re: Who should WeHam select at 6? (poll) 

Post#221 » by PrimeThyme » Fri May 18, 2018 2:04 pm

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Mauro Pedrosa wrote:Fultz for #6 is one of the craziest moves I've seen suggested. You want to give the Sixers a chance to draft a fantastic PG shooter to couple with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid for the next 10 years? Lol


People are really underestimating how good Fultz actually is because of the whole real/fake injury thing.

I would do 6 for Fultz in a HEARTBEAT.

I wouldn't. It's not a matter of underestimating its the fact that the kid shot 0% from 3 this year, lost all confidence in his ability to play basketball, and literally had to rebuild his jumper. His 3pt shooting ability was what intrigued me so much about him coming out of college, and there is no guarantee whatsoever that he will ever find it again.

Fultz without an above average 3pt shot will be an average starter in this league imo. Outside of his 3pt shot, he wasn't that efficient to begin with in college shooting 47% overall and 64% from the free throw line. There is a lot of reason to be cautious with him and Id take my chances on a player at 6 rather than Fultz.
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Re: Who should WeHam select at 6? (poll) 

Post#222 » by tiderulz » Fri May 18, 2018 2:05 pm

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tiderulz wrote:Porter is a jump shooter, teams would just back off and let him prove he can make NBA distance shots. he isnt a threat to drive past anyone right now


Wouldn't it be the opposite? Because he isn't a great threat to drive past anyone right now (and that may return as he gets healthy), teams would guard him closer without fear of him blowing by his defender?

he has to prove he can hit NBA range first.
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Re: Who should WeHam select at 6? (poll) 

Post#223 » by tiderulz » Fri May 18, 2018 2:06 pm

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drsd wrote:Reading the USAtoday story on how great Porter thinks Porter is:
USAtoday LINK


I did not appreciate all Porter had was microdiscectomy spinal surgery. This is not something that comes as a reemergent issue. This is not the kind of back problem that ends NBA careers. This is a pinch in the vertebra, and that is simply a shave of the bone. What does matter is muscular issues with an NBA back; Porter does not have that.

But what to do with him? At first I guess the Magic could start a PG and C with three forwards. On defense either Porter or Gordon could defend. On offense, there really is no match-up defensively against those three.

..


Honestly, it doesn't matter. If Porter is there and projects to be a star by our guys, you take him and figure the rest out later. What's the worst thing that happens, we trade AG for a solid return in February?

A player with that kind of length who can shoot as well as he could end up doing is simply a rare breed. Length plus shooting is exactly what Hammond says he looks for in the draft.


honest question, where are people getting this information that he is this great shooter?
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Re: Who should WeHam select at 6? (poll) 

Post#224 » by tiderulz » Fri May 18, 2018 2:09 pm

cedric76 wrote:
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MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
6 for 12/13 would be a starting point that can expand, was just a starting canvas..

Fultz seems to be having some major mental issues and totally forgot how to shoot a basketball... Royce White was another guy who was drafted 16th overall and was a very solid player but had mental issues. I'm not trading 6 for a guy who could flame out of the league in 2-3 years due to non basketball things.

Fultz for #6 is one of the craziest moves I've seen suggested. You want to give the Sixers a chance to draft a fantastic PG shooter to couple with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid for the next 10 years? Lol


lol

Focus on your needs before 76ers needs

If GM thinks Fultz is better than whoever available at #6, you pull the trigger


PS: 11 months ago 80% of this board wanted to trade AG+ #6 to get Fultz

now People dont want to do #6 for Fultz and assets

This board is so bipolar

i dont remember that at all, and if anyone was suggesting it, it wasnt 80% of this board
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Re: Who should WeHam select at 6? (poll) 

Post#225 » by Nemesis21 » Fri May 18, 2018 2:13 pm

tiderulz wrote:
PennytoShaq wrote:
drsd wrote:Reading the USAtoday story on how great Porter thinks Porter is:
USAtoday LINK


I did not appreciate all Porter had was microdiscectomy spinal surgery. This is not something that comes as a reemergent issue. This is not the kind of back problem that ends NBA careers. This is a pinch in the vertebra, and that is simply a shave of the bone. What does matter is muscular issues with an NBA back; Porter does not have that.

But what to do with him? At first I guess the Magic could start a PG and C with three forwards. On defense either Porter or Gordon could defend. On offense, there really is no match-up defensively against those three.

..


Honestly, it doesn't matter. If Porter is there and projects to be a star by our guys, you take him and figure the rest out later. What's the worst thing that happens, we trade AG for a solid return in February?

A player with that kind of length who can shoot as well as he could end up doing is simply a rare breed. Length plus shooting is exactly what Hammond says he looks for in the draft.


honest question, where are people getting this information that he is this great shooter?



NBA Draft Room's breakdown of his game,


http://www.nbadraftroom.com/2015/04/michael-porter-jr.html


Talks about his shooting in his strengths portion of the page.


Nowhere in his weaknesses portion of the page, does it say his shooting is a weakness or that he needs to work on it.



NBA Draft Net,

Also talks about his shooting as a strength and doesn't mention it in his weaknesses portion of the page.

Also at the top of the page, rates his jumpshot as a 9.


http://www.nbadraft.net/players/michael-porter



So honest question to you, where do you gather that he is not a good to great shooter? Do you get that from the 4 college games that he played? If so you can't take that small samples seriously, with the back injury issue at the time.
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Re: Who should WeHam select at 6? (poll) 

Post#226 » by tiderulz » Fri May 18, 2018 2:33 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
PennytoShaq wrote:
Honestly, it doesn't matter. If Porter is there and projects to be a star by our guys, you take him and figure the rest out later. What's the worst thing that happens, we trade AG for a solid return in February?

A player with that kind of length who can shoot as well as he could end up doing is simply a rare breed. Length plus shooting is exactly what Hammond says he looks for in the draft.


honest question, where are people getting this information that he is this great shooter?



NBA Draft Room's breakdown of his game,


http://www.nbadraftroom.com/2015/04/michael-porter-jr.html


Talks about his shooting in his strengths portion of the page.


Nowhere in his weaknesses portion of the page, does it say his shooting is a weakness or that he needs to work on it.



NBA Draft Net,

Also talks about his shooting as a strength and doesn't mention it in his weaknesses portion of the page.

Also at the top of the page, rates his jumpshot as a 9.


http://www.nbadraft.net/players/michael-porter



So honest question to you, where do you gather that he is not a good to great shooter? Do you get that from the 4 college games that he played? If so you can't take that small samples seriously, with the back injury issue at the time.

that worries me about a shooter relying on him being 6'11 and easily shooting over high schoolers. Winslow shot 42% from 3 at Duke, it's taken him 3 years to break 30% in the NBA. I just worry about the change of level of athlete defending him.

call me crazy and i could be very wrong. I just dont see him being quite the star he is being made out to be. I called it with Exum too. on the flip side, I also thought Elf would be better than he did.
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Re: Who should WeHam select at 6? (poll) 

Post#227 » by Nemesis21 » Fri May 18, 2018 2:36 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
honest question, where are people getting this information that he is this great shooter?



NBA Draft Room's breakdown of his game,


http://www.nbadraftroom.com/2015/04/michael-porter-jr.html


Talks about his shooting in his strengths portion of the page.


Nowhere in his weaknesses portion of the page, does it say his shooting is a weakness or that he needs to work on it.



NBA Draft Net,

Also talks about his shooting as a strength and doesn't mention it in his weaknesses portion of the page.

Also at the top of the page, rates his jumpshot as a 9.


http://www.nbadraft.net/players/michael-porter



So honest question to you, where do you gather that he is not a good to great shooter? Do you get that from the 4 college games that he played? If so you can't take that small samples seriously, with the back injury issue at the time.

that worries me about a shooter relying on him being 6'11 and easily shooting over high schoolers. Winslow shot 42% from 3 at Duke, it's taken him 3 years to break 30% in the NBA. I just worry about the change of level of athlete defending him.

call me crazy and i could be very wrong. I just dont see him being quite the star he is being made out to be. I called it with Exum too. on the flip side, I also thought Elf would be better than he did.




I'm confused. Winslow is barley 6'6" Porter is 6'10"
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Re: Who should WeHam select at 6? (poll) 

Post#228 » by tiderulz » Fri May 18, 2018 2:39 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:

NBA Draft Room's breakdown of his game,


http://www.nbadraftroom.com/2015/04/michael-porter-jr.html


Talks about his shooting in his strengths portion of the page.


Nowhere in his weaknesses portion of the page, does it say his shooting is a weakness or that he needs to work on it.



NBA Draft Net,

Also talks about his shooting as a strength and doesn't mention it in his weaknesses portion of the page.

Also at the top of the page, rates his jumpshot as a 9.


http://www.nbadraft.net/players/michael-porter



So honest question to you, where do you gather that he is not a good to great shooter? Do you get that from the 4 college games that he played? If so you can't take that small samples seriously, with the back injury issue at the time.

that worries me about a shooter relying on him being 6'11 and easily shooting over high schoolers. Winslow shot 42% from 3 at Duke, it's taken him 3 years to break 30% in the NBA. I just worry about the change of level of athlete defending him.

call me crazy and i could be very wrong. I just dont see him being quite the star he is being made out to be. I called it with Exum too. on the flip side, I also thought Elf would be better than he did.


I'm confused. Winslow is barley 6'6" Porter is 6'10"

and Winslow moved to bigger defenders and promptly couldnt get his shot off accurately.
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Re: Who should WeHam select at 6? (poll) 

Post#229 » by Nemesis21 » Fri May 18, 2018 2:42 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:that worries me about a shooter relying on him being 6'11 and easily shooting over high schoolers. Winslow shot 42% from 3 at Duke, it's taken him 3 years to break 30% in the NBA. I just worry about the change of level of athlete defending him.

call me crazy and i could be very wrong. I just dont see him being quite the star he is being made out to be. I called it with Exum too. on the flip side, I also thought Elf would be better than he did.


I'm confused. Winslow is barley 6'6" Porter is 6'10"

and Winslow moved to bigger defenders and promptly couldnt get his shot off accurately.



I still don't get the point you are trying to make. Porter pre injury was widely regarded as the top pick in this class. No one ever thought that of Winslow who was a 10th pick.
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Re: Who should WeHam select at 6? (poll) 

Post#230 » by PennytoShaq » Fri May 18, 2018 2:54 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:
I'm confused. Winslow is barley 6'6" Porter is 6'10"

and Winslow moved to bigger defenders and promptly couldnt get his shot off accurately.



I still don't get the point you are trying to make. Porter pre injury was widely regarded as the top pick in this class. No one ever thought that of Winslow who was a 10th pick.


Yeah, I have no idea why anyone would compare these two players.
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Post#231 » by tiderulz » Fri May 18, 2018 2:55 pm

PennytoShaq wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:and Winslow moved to bigger defenders and promptly couldnt get his shot off accurately.



I still don't get the point you are trying to make. Porter pre injury was widely regarded as the top pick in this class. No one ever thought that of Winslow who was a 10th pick.


Yeah, I have no idea why anyone would compare these two players.

to show that high shooting % at a lower level, when you are naturally bigger than opposing players doesnt always translate to the NBA where you arent towering over your opponent anymore.

fine, ill be out on a limb myself thinking that Porter isnt all that. wont be the first time i was wrong or right.
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Post#232 » by PennytoShaq » Fri May 18, 2018 2:58 pm

tiderulz wrote:
PennytoShaq wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:

I still don't get the point you are trying to make. Porter pre injury was widely regarded as the top pick in this class. No one ever thought that of Winslow who was a 10th pick.


Yeah, I have no idea why anyone would compare these two players.

to show that high shooting % at a lower level, when you are naturally bigger than opposing players doesnt always translate to the NBA where you arent towering over your opponent anymore.

fine, ill be out on a limb myself thinking that Porter isnt all that. wont be the first time i was wrong or right.


Winslow never towered over anyone. His wingspan and height was a concern coming into the draft.

You aren't wrong to question Porter, but I just think this particular reasoning is a little off.
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Re: Who should WeHam select at 6? (poll) 

Post#233 » by Nemesis21 » Fri May 18, 2018 2:58 pm

PennytoShaq wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:and Winslow moved to bigger defenders and promptly couldnt get his shot off accurately.



I still don't get the point you are trying to make. Porter pre injury was widely regarded as the top pick in this class. No one ever thought that of Winslow who was a 10th pick.


Yeah, I have no idea why anyone would compare these two players.



No clue. Maybe tide is mad Porter went to a different SEC school in Missouri instead of Alabama? :lol:


Nowhere have I heard or read about Porter's jump shot needing work. Everybody says he can be an elite scorer one day. What I have heard and read is that he needs to work on his handles some, needs to work on attacking the basket more, and muscling his way through the lane better, not shying away from contact when attacking the basket.
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Post#234 » by NotACat » Fri May 18, 2018 3:05 pm

cedric76 wrote:
Knightro wrote:
Mauro Pedrosa wrote:Fultz for #6 is one of the craziest moves I've seen suggested. You want to give the Sixers a chance to draft a fantastic PG shooter to couple with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid for the next 10 years? Lol


People are really underestimating how good Fultz actually is because of the whole real/fake injury thing.

I would do 6 for Fultz in a HEARTBEAT.


Of course, the Kid can play, but he needs to have the ball in his hands which isnt gonna happen now that 76ers know what simmons can do

76ers will trade Fultz for a player that fit better with Jojo and simmons

Fultz
Evan
Isaac
AG
(whoever fit best with those 4: Vuc/Biz/Birch)


Also many 76ers fan would even offer extra assets in that trade

Fultz+bayless +2019 1st for #6+ mack (partially GTG, so 76ers can clear even more space to go after FA)

I would love to add Fultz, especially if we can get another pick from them this year, even if its 26, but I'd like to get #10.
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Post#235 » by PennytoShaq » Fri May 18, 2018 3:05 pm

Yeah, my main concern is how he creates off the dribble just like you are saying. But a guy that tall and long with his skillset already has a real chance at becomnig a superstar player.
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Re: Who should WeHam select at 6? (poll) 

Post#236 » by OrlandO » Fri May 18, 2018 3:14 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
honest question, where are people getting this information that he is this great shooter?



NBA Draft Room's breakdown of his game,


http://www.nbadraftroom.com/2015/04/michael-porter-jr.html


Talks about his shooting in his strengths portion of the page.


Nowhere in his weaknesses portion of the page, does it say his shooting is a weakness or that he needs to work on it.



NBA Draft Net,

Also talks about his shooting as a strength and doesn't mention it in his weaknesses portion of the page.

Also at the top of the page, rates his jumpshot as a 9.


http://www.nbadraft.net/players/michael-porter



So honest question to you, where do you gather that he is not a good to great shooter? Do you get that from the 4 college games that he played? If so you can't take that small samples seriously, with the back injury issue at the time.

that worries me about a shooter relying on him being 6'11 and easily shooting over high schoolers. Winslow shot 42% from 3 at Duke, it's taken him 3 years to break 30% in the NBA. I just worry about the change of level of athlete defending him.

call me crazy and i could be very wrong. I just dont see him being quite the star he is being made out to be. I called it with Exum too. on the flip side, I also thought Elf would be better than he did.

Winslow only takes open threes... he's struggling because he hasn't been able to adjust to the longer NBA 3pt line. That would be a more appropriate concern for Porter.
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Post#237 » by Young Thunder » Fri May 18, 2018 3:16 pm

`They had pretty interesting things to say and obviously I sit pretty high as far as fit and what I could bring,’’ Bamba said on Thursday in Chicago, referring to his meetings with Magic President of Basketball Operations Jeff Weltman, GM John Hammond and others in the front office. ``I’m really good friends with Jon (Isaac) and he’s a great dude. You know, I know the (front-office) guys down in Orlando really like length and luckily for me I’m pretty lengthy.’


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Post#238 » by OrlandO » Fri May 18, 2018 3:19 pm

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`They had pretty interesting things to say and obviously I sit pretty high as far as fit and what I could bring,’’ Bamba said on Thursday in Chicago, referring to his meetings with Magic President of Basketball Operations Jeff Weltman, GM John Hammond and others in the front office. ``I’m really good friends with Jon (Isaac) and he’s a great dude. You know, I know the (front-office) guys down in Orlando really like length and luckily for me I’m pretty lengthy.’


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Post#239 » by OrlDave » Fri May 18, 2018 3:26 pm

I like the fact he actually seems to want to come here. Bamba, Isaak and Gordon would be an interesting front court. Still need a PG though.
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Post#240 » by Patrick1978 » Fri May 18, 2018 4:00 pm

So for me the pick is between bamba,young and bridges or may be someone we don t expect.

Imo jjj and porter go in the top 5.

Also i think the magic look for a guard or wing with a later pick as they have interviewed divicenzo,brown,robinson, simons
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