Summer Trades...never too early

[basketballRob]

Since this draft created no buzz there is good chance that you can climb your way into top 3-5 picks with trades.
If that's a case i would offer Bamba to get there.
Hornets want a Bamba and Magic 2020 pick for their draft -do it.
Cole Anthony, Deni Avidija, Anthony Edwards, Wiseman , i don't really care who.

Literally only matchups that fit Bamba are : slowfooted, out of shape centers that don't shoot on teams without point guards. And he only plays against backups and looks this bad.

Too early to give up on Bamba

If he comes next year and sucks again, his value is basically zero. $6 M a year for marginal rotation player at age of 22-23.
Players of that age already are shoved around for nothing nowdays ( Chriss, Maker, Bender, Skal, Jackson...)

Picking up his 4th year option gets expensive. $7,5M for 4th year.

Could you imagine if we didn't pick up the option on Fultz like you suggested? Weham would already be fired

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[p0peye]

Since this draft created no buzz there is good chance that you can climb your way into top 3-5 picks with trades.
If that's a case i would offer Bamba to get there.
Hornets want a Bamba and Magic 2020 pick for their draft -do it.
Cole Anthony, Deni Avidija, Anthony Edwards, Wiseman , i don't really care who.

Literally only matchups that fit Bamba are : slowfooted, out of shape centers that don't shoot on teams without point guards. And he only plays against backups and looks this bad.

I wouldn't invest Bamba in this years draft. It is likely that 5 years down the road best player from this draft could be someone drafted in teens or even later. For example Aleksej Pokuševski (who apparently plays in Olympiacos B squad and whom I have no idea about even though he is from Serbia) is a nice investment for low pick: international prospect, lightly scouted, hard to judge stats as he plays in Greek 2nd level league. That was niche where Giannis, Gobert and sort of Porzingis (in 2014 before pulling out of draft) used to live in.

This draft kind a blows , but Bamba also kind a blows and it's hard to se scenario where he is anything more than career role player , starter on specific team.
I kind a want Avdija from a draft, still not 100% sold on him, but even looking at his nationality is intriguing to me. Father is former ex Yugoslavia national team member who played in era where they dominated basketball. Some super odd mix of "blood" in that kid.
Father is born in Serbia, but is muslim from Pristina, yet his mother is jewish from Israel and she is former pro athlete herself ( i think sprinter or olympic jumper, not 100% sure ).

That kid is walking multicultural relict

As a player, he ain't Doncic, that's a given, but i like his passion and ability to play multiple positions .

I don't like Lonzo at all, but i think Melo is way more talented ( and better athlete ) so that's another low- key guy that i would not mind getting.

I had no idea about Avdija's family heritage, interesting indeed, Vučević comes from similar athlete family tree, although muslim/jewish combination is a bit unusual, I agree. Guy probably could fit anywhere culturally.

However, I can't identify single player in this draft that surely projects as more than a role player. I am sure there will be a star or two in there, just saying it could be in late first round just as likely as in top 5.

[spinedoc]

Bulls offer you -
-Thad Young
- Coby White

For
- Aaron Gordon

Or

- Otto Porter jr.
- Thad Young
- Daniel Gafford


For
Nikola Vucevic
- - Aaron Gordon

Thoughts ? Different players and drafts could be moved around too!

Yeah, I like both of those. The first one actually seems better to me, but I love Coby White.

[The Effect]

Who would say no to these deals?

Vuc to Brooklyn for a S/T Spencer Dinwiddle - Kevin Durant has talked about how much he loves Vucs game, and they are likely losing DInwiddle in FA, so why not get something for him. I know they have Allen, but it couldnt hurt to add another player of vucs skill, especially since they wont be in position to make moves in FA for a while, so get vuc for a player who was leaving anyways, Much like the Warriors did to get DLo for durant. Dinwiddle probably wouldnt find a better opportunity to be not only a starter, but a go-to player. Seems win-win for everyone

AG to Denver for MPj and Barton and a swap of 1st rounder (or just our first rounder if thats what it takes and count Okeke as our 1st next year)

Let Evan walk and use any money we would have in FA (do we have the MLE?) to sign a backup PG and fill out the bench

If we go into next season with a lineup similar to this, it would give more hope going into a season than any point since dwight was here because we would have plenty of potential to be a good team that can develop into a great team

C - Bamba\Birch (bamba value is so low that it would be pointless to trade him)
PF - Isaac\Okeke
SF - MPJ\Barton
SG - Dinwiddle\Ross
PG - Fultz\MCW\(free agent)

WeHam would never go for it, but its nice to dream

[Bensational]

Who would say no to these deals?

Vuc to Brooklyn for a S/T Spencer Dinwiddle - Kevin Durant has talked about how much he loves Vucs game, and they are likely losing DInwiddle in FA, so why not get something for him. I know they have Allen, but it couldnt hurt to add another player of vucs skill, especially since they wont be in position to make moves in FA for a while, so get vuc for a player who was leaving anyways, Much like the Warriors did to get DLo for durant. Dinwiddle probably wouldnt find a better opportunity to be not only a starter, but a go-to player. Seems win-win for everyone

AG to Denver for MPj and Barton and a swap of 1st rounder (or just our first rounder if thats what it takes and count Okeke as our 1st next year)

Let Evan walk and use any money we would have in FA (do we have the MLE?) to sign a backup PG and fill out the bench

If we go into next season with a lineup similar to this, it would give more hope going into a season than any point since dwight was here because we would have plenty of potential to be a good team that can develop into a great team

C - Bamba\Birch (bamba value is so low that it would be pointless to trade him)
PF - Isaac\Okeke
SF - MPJ\Barton
SG - Dinwiddle\Ross
PG - Fultz\MCW\(free agent)

WeHam would never go for it, but its nice to dream

I'd be very excited to watch that team.

Only thing is I don't think Denver do that deal. I mean, MPJ already looks like a better offensive option and he's still on a rookie deal. Unless they see AG as a better blend of Millsap and MPJ and value that next to Jokic more than a pure blood scorer like MPJ?

[zaymon]

Who would say no to these deals?

Vuc to Brooklyn for a S/T Spencer Dinwiddle - Kevin Durant has talked about how much he loves Vucs game, and they are likely losing DInwiddle in FA, so why not get something for him. I know they have Allen, but it couldnt hurt to add another player of vucs skill, especially since they wont be in position to make moves in FA for a while, so get vuc for a player who was leaving anyways, Much like the Warriors did to get DLo for durant. Dinwiddle probably wouldnt find a better opportunity to be not only a starter, but a go-to player. Seems win-win for everyone

AG to Denver for MPj and Barton and a swap of 1st rounder (or just our first rounder if thats what it takes and count Okeke as our 1st next year)

Let Evan walk and use any money we would have in FA (do we have the MLE?) to sign a backup PG and fill out the bench

If we go into next season with a lineup similar to this, it would give more hope going into a season than any point since dwight was here because we would have plenty of potential to be a good team that can develop into a great team

C - Bamba\Birch (bamba value is so low that it would be pointless to trade him)
PF - Isaac\Okeke
SF - MPJ\Barton
SG - Dinwiddle\Ross
PG - Fultz\MCW\(free agent)

WeHam would never go for it, but its nice to dream

Dinwiddie is not a good fit alongside Fultz, he would have to come from the bench. Denver would never do that deal.

[tiderulz]

Who would say no to these deals?

Vuc to Brooklyn for a S/T Spencer Dinwiddle - Kevin Durant has talked about how much he loves Vucs game, and they are likely losing DInwiddle in FA, so why not get something for him. I know they have Allen, but it couldnt hurt to add another player of vucs skill, especially since they wont be in position to make moves in FA for a while, so get vuc for a player who was leaving anyways, Much like the Warriors did to get DLo for durant. Dinwiddle probably wouldnt find a better opportunity to be not only a starter, but a go-to player. Seems win-win for everyone

AG to Denver for MPj and Barton and a swap of 1st rounder (or just our first rounder if thats what it takes and count Okeke as our 1st next year)

Let Evan walk and use any money we would have in FA (do we have the MLE?) to sign a backup PG and fill out the bench

If we go into next season with a lineup similar to this, it would give more hope going into a season than any point since dwight was here because we would have plenty of potential to be a good team that can develop into a great team

C - Bamba\Birch (bamba value is so low that it would be pointless to trade him)
PF - Isaac\Okeke
SF - MPJ\Barton
SG - Dinwiddle\Ross
PG - Fultz\MCW\(free agent)

WeHam would never go for it, but its nice to dream

Dinwiddie is not a good fit alongside Fultz, he would have to come from the bench. Denver would never do that deal.

and people seem to forget or not notice, Dinwiddie is a bad 3 pt shooter

[cedric76]

Who would say no to these deals?

Vuc to Brooklyn for a S/T Spencer Dinwiddle - Kevin Durant has talked about how much he loves Vucs game, and they are likely losing DInwiddle in FA, so why not get something for him. I know they have Allen, but it couldnt hurt to add another player of vucs skill, especially since they wont be in position to make moves in FA for a while, so get vuc for a player who was leaving anyways, Much like the Warriors did to get DLo for durant. Dinwiddle probably wouldnt find a better opportunity to be not only a starter, but a go-to player. Seems win-win for everyone

AG to Denver for MPj and Barton and a swap of 1st rounder (or just our first rounder if thats what it takes and count Okeke as our 1st next year)

Let Evan walk and use any money we would have in FA (do we have the MLE?) to sign a backup PG and fill out the bench

If we go into next season with a lineup similar to this, it would give more hope going into a season than any point since dwight was here because we would have plenty of potential to be a good team that can develop into a great team

C - Bamba\Birch (bamba value is so low that it would be pointless to trade him)
PF - Isaac\Okeke
SF - MPJ\Barton
SG - Dinwiddle\Ross
PG - Fultz\MCW\(free agent)

WeHam would never go for it, but its nice to dream

So we downgrade at C and get a weaker sg that doesn't fit next to Fultz

I pass

[Skybox]

Beal goes for 50+ and WAS loses...he's probably got his own medical staff checking on Wall's progress

everybody but Isaac and Fultz for Beal...plus, all of our picks. Let's get this thing going.

Also, anyone see that scrub CJ...he would blow up in the East

[deggett]

Aaron Gordon for Dennis Schröder

[babyjax13]

Bojan Bogdanovic for Aaron Gordon? Or does it require Bojan + 23 for Gordon (if this is appealing)? Bojan is an amazing offensive player...and not good on defense (albeit, not completely tragic).

[drsd]

NBAdraft.net now has the Magic drafting Josh Green. I guess as a replacement for Iwundu, this makes sense as a rotational bench selection (which is what one hopes for at the 15-18 range of the draft).

[zaymon]

Bojan Bogdanovic for Aaron Gordon? Or does it require Bojan + 23 for Gordon (if this is appealing)? Bojan is an amazing offensive player...and not good on defense (albeit, not completely tragic).

Thats a long and expensive contract. I dont think we listen before you include a pick. Looking at your roster you sure need a forward defensive stopper. Are you not worried Gobert with Gordon would kill your offense ?

[basketballRob]

Vuc for Heild. I think Sacramento is the last best hope to trade for Vuc.

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[drsd]

Vuc for Heild. I think Sacramento is the last best hope to trade for Vuc.

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If Fournier does not opt-in, Buddy Hield for Aaron Gordon balances the roster. But is Hield the one player to elevate this roster? I would think not.

[babyjax13]

Bojan Bogdanovic for Aaron Gordon? Or does it require Bojan + 23 for Gordon (if this is appealing)? Bojan is an amazing offensive player...and not good on defense (albeit, not completely tragic).

Thats a long and expensive contract. I dont think we listen before you include a pick. Looking at your roster you sure need a forward defensive stopper. Are you not worried Gobert with Gordon would kill your offense ?

If Favors-Gobert was okay offensively, Gordon-Gobert will be, especially since Gordon can hit an open three. Bogey's contract is long, but he's also really good and has a game that will age well. I'd actually rather move Joe Ingles to be completely honest - I just don't think Utah would ever do that. But I understand that the pick probably has to be involved just because of the age difference between Gordon and Bogey.

[zaymon]

Bojan Bogdanovic for Aaron Gordon? Or does it require Bojan + 23 for Gordon (if this is appealing)? Bojan is an amazing offensive player...and not good on defense (albeit, not completely tragic).

Thats a long and expensive contract. I dont think we listen before you include a pick. Looking at your roster you sure need a forward defensive stopper. Are you not worried Gobert with Gordon would kill your offense ?

If Favors-Gobert was okay offensively, Gordon-Gobert will be, especially since Gordon can hit an open three. Bogey's contract is long, but he's also really good and has a game that will age well. I'd actually rather move Joe Ingles to be completely honest - I just don't think Utah would ever do that. But I understand that the pick probably has to be involved just because of the age difference between Gordon and Bogey.

I am interested in Bojan + pick for Gordon swap (i think we would like 2021), but i think half of our board would not agree with me. Bogdanovic would help a lot with our offense, Isaac and him would be quite a pairing.

[babyjax13]

Thats a long and expensive contract. I dont think we listen before you include a pick. Looking at your roster you sure need a forward defensive stopper. Are you not worried Gobert with Gordon would kill your offense ?

If Favors-Gobert was okay offensively, Gordon-Gobert will be, especially since Gordon can hit an open three. Bogey's contract is long, but he's also really good and has a game that will age well. I'd actually rather move Joe Ingles to be completely honest - I just don't think Utah would ever do that. But I understand that the pick probably has to be involved just because of the age difference between Gordon and Bogey.

I am interested in Bojan + pick for Gordon swap (i think we would like 2021), but i think half of our board would not agree with me. Bogdanovic would help a lot with our offense, Isaac and him would be quite a pairing.

We can't trade our 2021 pick. We can trade the 2020 pick on draft day, or we can trade our pick in 2024. The Conley trade was horribad.

[spinedoc]

Would anyone do a Gordon and Bamba for Harrison Barnes deal? Not sure if we would have to add a protected pick or not, but my gut says no. Barnes could be that true sf for us, and we get addition by subtraction by moving Gordon in my mind. Bamba leaving would be a loss to my future plans for this team, but it certainly balances this team better. That is if, JI can finally stay healthy and nail down the four spot. We then could draft the best sg and hope he quickly replaces Evan as we let his contract expire.

pg-Fultz
sg-Fournier
sf-Barnes
pf-JI
c-Vuc

[j-ragg]

Would anyone do a Gordon and Bamba for Harrison Barnes deal? Not sure if we would have to add a protected pick or not, but my gut says no. Barnes could be that true sf for us, and we get addition by subtraction by moving Gordon in my mind. Bamba leaving would be a loss to my future plans for this team, but it certainly balances this team better. That is if, JI can finally stay healthy and nail down the four spot. We then could draft the best sg and hope he quickly replaces Evan as we let his contract expire.

pg-Fultz
sg-Fournier
sf-Barnes
pf-JI
c-Vuc

Respect the heck out of you as a poster, but one of the worst trades on here I've seen. But then again I don't see trading Gordon an addition by subtraction deal so maybe we just disagree on that.

edit-guess I should explain. Barnes plays with basically zero heart and I believe his deal is negative value. To add Bamba or even a 1st is egregious IMO, but I wouldn't do AG for him straight up either (though I get that's subjective). He was just signed to it a few months ago and it was laughed at from every angle. Plus the whole premise of trading Gordon during by far his lowest value is silly to me but I obviously get the advantages too.