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Post#221 » by Illuminati » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:45 am

Don't you miss Doug Christies wife? I liked how she was always in charge. I've love a night with her :$
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Post#222 » by MagicFan3 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:47 am

Bring back Gabriel. Sure, he lost Shaq and signed a player with a bad ankle to a max contract, but still, he's a genius!
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Post#223 » by TheMadMagician » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:52 am

Wow, have we ever had a good GM???? Im officially on the Fire Otis Bandwagon.
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Post#224 » by Cammo101 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:53 am

This thread is rediculous. What big man were we supposed to get exactly? Sacto wanted a ton for Miller. Ben Wallace and JO make far too much. Brezec stinks...what big man was available exactly that you guys wanted? Or are we just complaining to be fickle?
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Post#225 » by lovehoops01 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:53 am

Personally, I think that the Spurs got Kurt Thomas because the Sonics' GM was trained as the assistant GM with the Spurs. Plus, Thomas might have wanted to go there more if given the option because the Spurs do have four rings.
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Post#226 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:56 am

Man its about time the Magic started getting some draft picks right other than the 2004 one. In this upcoming draft the Magic have to get a legit player because there isnt gonna be much room to add talent.
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Post#227 » by MagicFan3 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:58 am

themadmagician wrote:Wow, have we ever had a good GM????


Pat Williams ftw! :clap:
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Post#228 » by Cammo101 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:58 am

prorl wrote:Man its about time the Magic started getting some draft picks right other than the 2004 one. In this upcoming draft the Magic have to get a legit player because there isnt gonna be much room to add talent.


Agreed. This is a draft where we can really cure our banger big man problem. DJ White, DeVon Hardin...this would be a good year not to mess up the draft.
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Post#229 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:02 am

lovehoops01 wrote:Personally, I think that the Spurs got Kurt Thomas because the Sonics' GM was trained as the assistant GM with the Spurs. Plus, Thomas might have wanted to go there more if given the option because the Spurs do have four rings.



You def have to think that Presti is gonna choose his mentors over us thats for sure. Otis prob was hesitant to give up a pick too though. Thomas is very good player. Great defender and rebounder. He would help alot. Once he was gone looks like we had nothing else going.
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Post#230 » by Cammo101 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:05 am

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You def have to think that Presti is gonna choose his mentors over us thats for sure. Otis prob was hesitant to give up a pick too though. Thomas is very good player. Great defender and rebounder. He would help alot. Once he was gone looks like we had nothing else going.


Kurt Thomas would have been nice, but he is neither a great defender or rebounder. Solid at both, but not great or even very good.
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Post#231 » by spinedoc » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:05 am

Cammo101 wrote:This thread is rediculous. What big man were we supposed to get exactly? Sacto wanted a ton for Miller. Ben Wallace and JO make far too much. Brezec stinks...what big man was available exactly that you guys wanted? Or are we just complaining to be fickle?


My beef isn't that we didn't get our coveted big man, I can't speak for the others, its that we didn't improve the starting roster. I was always in favor of getting a decent sg because its easier to obtain, but I would have been happy still to get a starting pf just the same. The point for me is that we failed to use our assets when they were at their maximum value, when we need at least two more starters. Seeing some of the deals this year, I believe we could have gotten something that would have improved our team. Being infatuated with a fourth string sg is not a good enough reason to not do a deal imo. I'm not calling for Otis' head however, but I still believe it was a bungle.
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Post#232 » by HeyIt'sMe » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:05 am

I think Weisbrod was underrated, actually. He made the horrible mistake of getting rid of Mobley for Christie, but asides from that, I wasn't against many of the moves he made. And he drafted Dwight Howard, so just imagine where the Magic would be right now with Injurfor on the team.
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Post#233 » by zerp » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:12 am

I'm not surprise that Otis can't make a trade to improve our team.
It is logical, it's Otis Smith. :crazy:
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Post#234 » by magicman123 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:13 am

HeyIt'sMe wrote:I think Weisbrod was underrated, actually. He made the horrible mistake of getting rid of Mobley for Christie, but asides from that, I wasn't against many of the moves he made. And he Drafted Dwight Howard, so just imagine where the Magic would be right not with Injurfor on the team.


weis brought in hedo as well... hedo, battie, dwight, and nelson..otis has a future long term plan
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Post#235 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:13 am

Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Kurt Thomas would have been nice, but he is neither a great defender or rebounder. Solid at both, but not great or even very good.


I disagree. He pretty darn good at those 2. Even at his age. Thats why SA traded for him. Underated move by them.
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Post#236 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:16 am

HeyIt'sMe wrote:I think Weisbrod was underrated, actually. He made the horrible mistake of getting rid of Mobley for Christie, but asides from that, I wasn't against many of the moves he made. And he drafted Dwight Howard, so just imagine where the Magic would be right now with Injurfor on the team.


Ok well be fair to Otis, he was Weis assistant and he pushed for Dwight, Jameer, Hedo. Weis had the final say so but Otis was a big part of the decision making process and talent evaluation.
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Post#237 » by J-Mezzy » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:24 am

Trade is a settling machine. He's always happy with what we have.

In the deadline where everyone was trading their players and their mothers, we failed to make one damn move. Fire him, he's had the blessing of great salary cap space, a superstar, and great trading assets, but he settles with being good while others strive to be great.

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Post#238 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:25 am

Yea i dont like that Otis seemed like he scared himself from making a deal.
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Post#239 » by richboy » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:35 am

Well I've said before that IMO Otis thinks like a former player. One of those players that always thinks there team has the tools to win it all now. Instead of making tough trades he rather stan pack. The scary thing now is he doesn't have the assets to make a blockbuster in the future. If you like the team now then don't expect much change. My bet the only move this summer is using the MLE on a SG.
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Post#240 » by magicfan4life05 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:41 am

so if we try to improve in the future, will our only tradeable assets be hedo that has any value?
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