2023 NBA Draft Thread

[Knightro]

My sense of Brandon Miller is that he's one of the best wing prospects we've seen in quite some time. I haven't researched this but who has been a better wing prospect over the last ten years?

Miller's very good, but he's also older and I think you have to factor that in.

He's played his entire season freshman season at age 20 and is gonna be 21 right when his rookie year starts.

Compare that to someone like Tatum who was 18 for most all of his freshman season at Duke. He turned 19 in March right before the NCAA tournament started.

Ingram was even younger. He was 18 during his entire freshman season and didn't turn 19 until training camp before his rookie season i the NBA.

Miller has almost two full years of body and skill development in the bank compared to those two guys.

[Ralof]

I'd take Brandon Miller #2.

this is definitely not an hot take anymore.

Miller would be a #1 candidate in other drafts,last year one for example.

2.07 wing scoring twenty efficent points against college high level competition with 40% from deep,can not ignore that.

[Petre1978]

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[Petre1978]

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[eyriq]

My sense of Brandon Miller is that he's one of the best wing prospects we've seen in quite some time. I haven't researched this but who has been a better wing prospect over the last ten years?

Miller's very good, but he's also older and I think you have to factor that in.

He's played his entire season freshman season at age 20 and is gonna be 21 right when his rookie year starts.

Compare that to someone like Tatum who was 18 for most all of his freshman season at Duke. He turned 19 in March right before the NCAA tournament started.

Ingram was even younger. He was 18 during his entire freshman season and didn't turn 19 until training camp before his rookie season i the NBA.

Miller has almost two full years of body and skill development in the bank compared to those two guys.

Hmmm, that must be what differentiates him from being in the same tier as Scoot. At least for now.

[MasterGMer]

Let's say we land the 2nd pick, would you trade it for Mikal bridges?

Brooklyn were rumoured to want 4 1st for him but I m sure they d jump on that offer

Not all 1st are equal, then you draft Hendricks with Chicago s pick



Fultz,suggs, Cole, MCW
Mikal,Harris,suggs
Franz, Mikal, Houstan, BOL
Paolo, Hendricks,JI, chuma
Wcj,Moe,goga

I'd do that in a heart bit

[MasterGMer]

Let's say we land the 2nd pick, would you trade it for Mikal bridges?

Brooklyn were rumoured to want 4 1st for him but I m sure they d jump on that offer

Not all 1st are equal, then you draft Hendricks with Chicago s pick



Fultz,suggs, Cole, MCW
Mikal,Harris,suggs
Franz, Mikal, Houstan, BOL
Paolo, Hendricks,JI, chuma
Wcj,Moe,goga

Mikal Bridges would be the corner stone we have since the rebuild. Dude is shooting 25ppg while averaging more than 50% FGA.

He is the most durable player in the league also. Plus he has a very good defense

He could become the star we desperately needed.

However, I do not think Magic FO is going to trade for him. Why? Because we can dive into the draft and find that player this year. That is why I think we need to trade up if our slot is not high enough, or we made the play in.

But 4 frp are just too much. I like Bridges very well. But I do not see it happen

[RookieStar]

NCAAT brackets are up...

Time for our future Magicians to step up and solidfy their rankings.

With that said, If ALA doesnt mess this up, I think Miller will have a chance to be a top 3 pick even with all the baggage he is carrying.

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[Magic#1]

Scoot a 28% 3pt shooter

Ja Morant is 31%…that’s his comp

Amazing
Let's hope Henderson has a different character than Morant.....

Scoot is also six years younger than Markelle and without an injury history that has affected his shoulder.

[drsd]

Chicago is back at the 10-seed

[flying_mollusk]

I posted earlier in the year that I wanted Miller and I got push back from people that he wouldn’t fit since we have 2 forwards already. Do others think fit is not an issue? Can we run Miller-Franz-Paolo out there?

Absolutely yes,this league is all about being small and forward playing like bigs.

miller+wagner+banchero + two guards is a proper young death lineup,imagine attacking in transition what would be for the opponents against them

Seems like a good point to draft Jarace Walker if he ends up in our range

[flying_mollusk]

One interesting aspect of this draft year for the Magic. We are on pace for 33-34 wins. In any ordinary year, that number of wins would NOT get you the 5th best lottery odds.

Last year that was 8-9th worst record
2 years ago that record got you into the play-in tourney
3 years ago that record also got you into the play-in

This pattern keeps going. This is just a year where a lot of teams are not tanking and trying to get in.

So we are getting the best of both worlds. A pretty competitive young team just outside the playoffs, but with the 5th best lottery odds and a pretty solid draft pick.

Hopefully it's indicative of what's to come for the league. I think the play-in has done wonders for increasing competitiveness and providing fans with meaningful games.

It definitely benefits us! Haha.

Lucky situations like this is what makes dynasties. We need to nail this.

[Skin]

Scoot a 28% 3pt shooter

Couple things...

No. 1 - Scoot is 22-68 from 3PT in 25 G-League games this season. That isn't great, but that's 32.4% which is higher than 28%. He's also attempting nearly 3 per game, so his volume isn't a major issue. 32.4% from 3PT is equivalent to roughly 48.6% from 2PT.

Not including last night's 3-8 effort from midrange, Markelle Fultz is shooting 43.0% from 10-16 feet and 44.3% from 16-23 feet. So every single one of the Scoot's 3PT attempts, even at just 32.4%, are more efficient than any shot Fultz attempts outside of 10 feet.

The issue with Fultz goes deeper than people realize. I don't think this board collectively understands how much his lack of desire (and accuracy) shooting threes negatively impacts the offensive output of the entire team.

Bergmaniac posted something the other day that I think people need to really digest and understand...

When Markelle Fultz is on the court, the Magic only shoot 27.9 three points per 100 possessions.

No team has attempted that few three pointers since 2018-2019 and the league average hasn't been that low since 2016-2017.

At their current percentage (34.8%) they're only making about 9.7 3PT per 100 with Fultz on the court, which is about 29 points per game on threes.

The league average this year by teams is 34.1 3PT attempts. The league average this year by teams is 36.1%. That means on average NBA teams this season are generating about 37 points per game from behind the 3PT line.

You start looking closer and you realize that the more Fultz plays the wider the gap gets in terms of how badly the Magic are losing the math game every night.

On paper, it appears Scoot will A. attempt more threes, B. generate more 3PT attempts for his teammates and C. attempt more free throws than Fultz does. If he does all three of those things, he'll be far more valuable.

These stats say he is a 27.5% 3pt shooter. Where do you get your stats on him from?

https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630703/?Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=Totals

https://www.basketball-reference.com/gleague/players/h/hendesc01d.html

[AaronB]

Looks like Edey led his team to a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament.

Let's see how this affects his draft stock.

[MasterGMer]

Looks like Edey led his team to a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament.

Let's see how this affects his draft stock.

Is he a late first rounder or 2nd round?

[AaronB]

I watched him a few times and have said I thought that he is a top 15 talent.

At the beginning of the year, he appeared to be a top 60 talent or so.

He is putting up the best numbers in the country, he is 7-4 and weighs 300 lbs.

He has slow feet and does not jump well, but he has a really good touch and can really rebound.

[cedric76]

Let's say we land the 2nd pick, would you trade it for Mikal bridges?

Brooklyn were rumoured to want 4 1st for him but I m sure they d jump on that offer

Not all 1st are equal, then you draft Hendricks with Chicago s pick



Fultz,suggs, Cole, MCW
Mikal,Harris,suggs
Franz, Mikal, Houstan, BOL
Paolo, Hendricks,JI, chuma
Wcj,Moe,goga

Mikal Bridges would be the corner stone we have since the rebuild. Dude is shooting 25ppg while averaging more than 50% FGA.

He is the most durable player in the league also. Plus he has a very good defense

He could become the star we desperately needed.

However, I do not think Magic FO is going to trade for him. Why? Because we can dive into the draft and find that player this year. That is why I think we need to trade up if our slot is not high enough, or we made the play in.

But 4 frp are just too much. I like Bridges very well. But I do not see it happen

I really hope we get 2nd or 3rd draft pick to see if weham have the balls to do something like that

I think Brooklyn would do scoot for bridges, however if scoot is gone I don't think they d do Miller or any other prospect for Mikal

I m not even sure that they d do #3 + #8 for Mikal

Would you do #3 + #8 for Mikal? Or would you just draft Miller?

[Ralof]

I posted earlier in the year that I wanted Miller and I got push back from people that he wouldn’t fit since we have 2 forwards already. Do others think fit is not an issue? Can we run Miller-Franz-Paolo out there?

Absolutely yes,this league is all about being small and forward playing like bigs.

miller+wagner+banchero + two guards is a proper young death lineup,imagine attacking in transition what would be for the opponents against them

Seems like a good point to draft Jarace Walker if he ends up in our range

did not seen yet in full game,just HL,but if it true what scouts say about him,could be definitely a viable option past top #5.

some sort of millsap/tucker guy

[basketballRob]

Kobe Bufkin looks like the best prospect on Michigan.

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Howard is better

That's what people originally thought. Now that Bufkin has got more playing time, it's apparent he is the better player.

Come draft time, I can't see Howard going ahead of Bufkin. Draftnet already has Bufkin 14 and Howard 17. That's the way it's trending.

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

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