Official 2025 Offseason Thread

[AdamTheGreek]

I think one big benefit of the new CBA will be that you’ll see more franchise players staying with one team for 10+ years.

Right now it’s ugly and teams like Boston and Indy are in savings mode, but Weltman this offseason had to put a team together that overall he’d be happy to keep mostly the same for the next 4-5 years. Core player contracts I’ll aligning that way.

Although that is the goal to keep the franchise player with their original team or at least not have the team lose him for nothing because they would prefer sign and trades to maximize earnings.

The franchise might be ok with this if the player is marketable, but the reality is if they want to compete, they have to get rid of their franchise player eventually. For example, I do not see how the Suns will be able to turn it around by paying Booker the amount he is about to get.

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Phoenix is a poor example. Ishbia put them in that hell.
They’re probably going to buy out Beal.
Also, I don’t think Booker is a max player (controversial, I get it). You’re right though, there will be a breaking point eventually with these max contracts and ‘fringe superstars’.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Our shameless tanking years...

If healthy, I full believe that Paolo can average over 30 points. If that ever happens in a Magic uniform, it will be wild to think that at one time we had a starting lineup that combined for 33.1 points.

[Orlando Dawg]

Wow 5 mil for a year of Mo Wagner
The Magic basically screwed him over and will have to back up the Brinks truck next offseason and use bird rights sign him to a 20 mil / year contract.

[Audi]

Paolo and Franz better be ready to be AT LEAST mediocre 3 pt shooters next season (34+%). They can’t squander this opportunity.

I’m not too worried about Paolo’s 3pt shooting - I think that’ll come around… seems like it’s these super hot and cold stretches that sink his numbers (37% post asb last season). 41% in two playoff series so far when it matters is promising though. Franz is the one with the visibly jacked up shot, so that’s what I’m more worried about lol.

[Skybox]

Wow 5 million for Moe. Weltman can't miss right now.

Means we don't have to move anybody?

I wonder if it means we couldn't move anybody...there's GOT to be a handshake in there for next year. I don't want a disgruntled Moe (even if he is rehabbing for half of the year) becoming a UFA after a solid return. I've got to believe they've got a friendly "This is all we got - but I'll take care of you next summer" arrangement...otherwise, it's a slap in the face - and I was all for cutting his salary, but not for no extra years or this substantially.

[Bakomagic]

Love bringing Mo back, between he and Tyus, our bench scoring should be in the top half of the league, if AB, TDS, Jase step up, we should be looking at one of the best bench scoring units in the league.

Don’t really see a big need to bring Caleb back per se, I would not trade any assets to bring him back.

I’d rather take a flyer on a summer league standout from our team or another.

[Skybox]

I'll be sick if we have to let $2m Caleb go because of $5.5m Jett

I wonder if Weltman tried to get off of Jett (into someone's TE or cap space) or if he's doubling down on his (lottery pick) investment? (we've seen it before, where he re-commits to disappointing players - that can payoff, but usually doesn't). In another era, I'd absolutely support giving Jett a longer look before cutting ties and, potentially, watching him blossom elsewhere...we don't really have that financial luxury anymore.

I can't imagine that Moe doesn't feel screwed over and that not unloading Jett or even Goga wasn't directly relevant to Moe's paltry deal and Caleb's loss.

Assuming Moe has some wink wink assurance for a big raise next summer - will we even have the ability to do that without even more significant cuts?

*$5m might also be kind of a lousy game of hardball, knowing that an injured one-way player doesn't have a lot of FA options this summer..."We'll pay you for the half season you're giving us and re-evaluate next summer"

I'm usually on the unemotional side of personnel issues (no "family" stuff, no "longevity rewards", etc) and always consider the changing financial landscape of the CBA in all decisions, but this might've been a rough conversation for Moe - that won't be easily forgotten.

[Skybox]

Waiting for Caleb to MIA on a $2m x 3y deal, where goes and looks like Duncan Robinson from Day 1.

[Magic_Johnny12]

I mean this with all seriousness, but this iteration of the Magic might rival prime Dwight teams with a lot more upside.

[eyriq]

Waiting for Caleb to MIA on a $2m x 3y deal, where goes and looks like Duncan Robinson from Day 1.

I don't think we can afford the 15th slot right now LOL

[flying_mollusk]

I don’t think Caleb is valued around the league as some here think. Otherwise he would have been snagged by now. If we want him back, I think it gets done since we are probably the only team giving him a shot. That said, I want him back.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Looking at the remaining free agents available, Caleb might actually be the best option available.

Maybe Delano Banton? It’s slim pickings.

[anothermagicfan]

When does the luxury tax amount get locked in? Meaning are we able to start the season with this roster and then either at the trade deadline or maybe even after the season ends but before the new shed salary to avoid the luxury tax?

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This is a good point. It seems like every season teams make moves at the trade deadline for financial reasons. If that's the case we could still sign Caleb and the first half of the season could come down to a final tryout between Caleb and Jett.

[Magic_Johnny12]

This is interesting, per Keith we can ONLY do one of the following not both.

1) Sign a vet min. contract

OR

2) Sign Penda to a second round deal

Sounds like Orlando isn’t done dealing.

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[BCS]

This is interesting, per Keith we can ONLY do one of the following not both.

1) Sign a vet min. contract

OR

2) Sign Penda to a second round deal

Sounds like Orlando isn’t done dealing.

Read on Twitter

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Or we are, sign Penda and call it a successful offseason. I am not losing sleep over a 15th roster spot. That can be taken care of later on as needed.

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[Knightro]

This is interesting, per Keith we can ONLY do one of the following not both.

1) Sign a vet min. contract

OR

2) Sign Penda to a second round deal

Sounds like Orlando isn’t done dealing.

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=U-6BxaJHr50VVe8YqOpDSQ

For now, yes.

And Penda is being signed for sure.

So if they want a 15th player, somebody has to go.

And really if they dump Jett, it will be to sign TWO minimum contracts, not just one.

[thelead]

Paolo and Franz better be ready to be AT LEAST mediocre 3 pt shooters next season (34+%). They can’t squander this opportunity.

I’m not too worried about Paolo’s 3pt shooting - I think that’ll come around… seems like it’s these super hot and cold stretches that sink his numbers (37% post asb last season). 41% in two playoff series so far when it matters is promising though. Franz is the one with the visibly jacked up shot, so that’s what I’m more worried about lol.

I agree. Still, Paolo has to prove to be a better shooter next season.

[T-Cat]

Orlando will probably stretch and waive Jett Howard soon!

[SOUL]

This is interesting, per Keith we can ONLY do one of the following not both.

1) Sign a vet min. contract

OR

2) Sign Penda to a second round deal

Sounds like Orlando isn’t done dealing.

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=U-6BxaJHr50VVe8YqOpDSQ

For now, yes.

And Penda is being signed for sure.

So if they want a 15th player, somebody has to go.

And really if they dump Jett, it will be to sign TWO minimum contracts, not just one.

Any harm in carrying 14 for a while or?

[RichCollab]

Looking at the remaining free agents available, Caleb might actually be the best option available.

Maybe Delano Banton? It’s slim pickings.

From a national media perspective, Caleb is still in the 20s with who is left.