Official 2025 Offseason Thread

[SOUL]

Looking at the remaining free agents available, Caleb might actually be the best option available.

Maybe Delano Banton? It’s slim pickings.

From a national media perspective, Caleb is still in the 20s with who is left.

From a talent perspective, sure, but in terms of who would potentially be comfortable in a deep bench role who can shoot and will cost the vet minimum, he's top 3. And he knows our system.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Looking at the remaining free agents available, Caleb might actually be the best option available.

Maybe Delano Banton? It’s slim pickings.

From a national media perspective, Caleb is still in the 20s with who is left.

From a talent perspective, sure, but in terms of who would potentially be comfortable in a deep bench role who can shoot and will cost the vet minimum, he's top 3. And he knows our system.

Correct, not many veterans are going to sign up to be the 15th man on a very deep roster.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Tyus Jones
Anthony Black
Tristian Da Silva
Jonathan Isaac
Moritz Wagner

Kinda perfect blend of offense/defense.

[Knightro]

As I said in the finances thread, I will be very curious to see if Tyus or Moe got the exact dollar figures being reported.

If either one of them are $32 thousand (yes thousand) less than was originally reported, the Magic could sign someone to fill the 15th slot that has 0 years experience - someone from the summer league team perhaps.

[BCS]

As I said in the finances thread, I will be very curious to see if Tyus or Moe got the exact dollar figures being reported.

If either one of them are $32 thousand (yes thousand) less than was originally reported, the Magic could sign someone to fill the 15th slot that has 0 years experience - someone from the summer league team perhaps.

But that'd be a waste of cap and roster spot. Every penny counts now. Best thing to do is stay put with 14 players and see how the season plays out.

Depending on injuries and what not, make the necessary adjustments. Having that flexibility is better than signing a rookie for the 15th spot that will never play and if we have a specific need later on, will need to be traded.

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[RichCollab]

Looking at the remaining free agents available, Caleb might actually be the best option available.

Maybe Delano Banton? It’s slim pickings.

From a national media perspective, Caleb is still in the 20s with who is left.

From a talent perspective, sure, but in terms of who would potentially be comfortable in a deep bench role who can shoot and will cost the vet minimum, he's top 3. And he knows our system.

I’m all about adding him at 15. Basically any one signing has to expect not to play.

He has been a model citizen.

[TyMagic23]

Tyus Jones
Anthony Black
Tristian Da Silva
Jonathan Isaac
Moritz Wagner

Kinda perfect blend of offense/defense.

This is a very good 2nd unit. Goga probaly starts year with this unit, then Mo is everything works out. Should have low turnovers and jist enough scoring to give starters a break. I can also see Franz out there a lot in place of either Da Silva or Isaac with the other 4.

[anothermagicfan]

Jett turns 22 in September.

Year 1- 67 minutes played
Year 2- 701 minutes played

Can anyone reasonably justify giving up on the 11th pick after 768 minutes played?

He hasn't even had enough time for the game to slow down for him yet. I'm not saying he's going to become a 20 points a game player just like that but you don't draft guys just outside the top 10 knowing they're a project and dump them to save a couple million in cap space

[basketballRob]

Jett turns 22 in September.

Year 1- 67 minutes played
Year 2- 701 minutes played

Can anyone reasonably justify giving up on the 11th pick after 768 minutes played?

He hasn't even had enough time for the game to slow down for him yet. I'm not saying he's going to become a 20 points a game player just like that but you don't draft guys just outside the top 10 knowing they're a project and dump them to save a couple million in cap space

They need to decide by October if they want to pick up his $7.3m option for next season. Do you think they should pick it up since he's young? Or sign a player like Tyus for $7m? If Jett was only making $2.5m per year, it would be easier to keep him. He was drafted too early.

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[Rainwater]

Jett turns 22 in September.

Year 1- 67 minutes played
Year 2- 701 minutes played

Can anyone reasonably justify giving up on the 11th pick after 768 minutes played?

He hasn't even had enough time for the game to slow down for him yet. I'm not saying he's going to become a 20 points a game player just like that but you don't draft guys just outside the top 10 knowing they're a project and dump them to save a couple million in cap space

Man, Jett is trash lol. Just watch the dude play lol

[BCS]

Jett turns 22 in September.

Year 1- 67 minutes played
Year 2- 701 minutes played

Can anyone reasonably justify giving up on the 11th pick after 768 minutes played?

He hasn't even had enough time for the game to slow down for him yet. I'm not saying he's going to become a 20 points a game player just like that but you don't draft guys just outside the top 10 knowing they're a project and dump them to save a couple million in cap space

Based on his performance, I am pretty sure it can be justified. Would I personally, probably not. Shooters sometimes take a while to develop and I am still patient.

Having said that, if we are dumping/trading him for a piece that will be part of the playoff rotation, you have to consider it. But dumping him for 3rd stringers that will barely play and not be part of the playoff rotation just like he is right now, doesn't make much sense. At that point, I will take the very small probability of him turning it around and improving. Maybe a true PG in Tyus can bring him closer to a 40% three point shooter, who knows.

[BCS]

Jett turns 22 in September.

Year 1- 67 minutes played
Year 2- 701 minutes played

Can anyone reasonably justify giving up on the 11th pick after 768 minutes played?

He hasn't even had enough time for the game to slow down for him yet. I'm not saying he's going to become a 20 points a game player just like that but you don't draft guys just outside the top 10 knowing they're a project and dump them to save a couple million in cap space

They need to decide by October if they want to pick up his $7.3m option for next season. Do you think they should pick it up since he's young? Or sign a player like Tyus for $7m? If Jett was only making $2.5m per year, it would be easier to keep him. He was drafted too early.

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I would not pick up his option. He has to prove himself this year and even if he turns it around, I do not expect a big enough jump where he would be worth the $7m. Maybe he becomes serviceable and you bring him back for less. If he becomes a player worth more than that, than good for him and for us because that means he will contribute this season in a meaningful way.

[VFX]

Jett was a reach at 11.

Literally nobody had him on the radar at that pick. Hes now a bust because of it.

He was probably favored by ownership because of who his father is in relation to the organization and the fact that he played for Michigan, which is obviously a factor at this point. I can’t prove any of that outright, but it seems fairly obvious.

But yes, he’s a bust. Terrible pick and now we need to attach assets to get off paying him his undeserved money as a #11 undeserved pick. The second worst Weltman pick between Bamba and Chuma.

The AB pick is on the cusp also, he is almost in semi-bust territory if he doesn’t step it up next season too as a top 10 pick. I was a bigger fan of Cason Wallace, who just won a championship playing the 4th most minutes on that team. I’d gladly trade AB for Lively straight up at this point.

[RichCollab]

Jett turns 22 in September.

Year 1- 67 minutes played
Year 2- 701 minutes played

Can anyone reasonably justify giving up on the 11th pick after 768 minutes played?

He hasn't even had enough time for the game to slow down for him yet. I'm not saying he's going to become a 20 points a game player just like that but you don't draft guys just outside the top 10 knowing they're a project and dump them to save a couple million in cap space

That would be one of the easier decisions to make. Being picked 11th doesn’t matter other than making him expensive for his output.

There are no minutes this year for him.

[anothermagicfan]

Jett turns 22 in September.

Year 1- 67 minutes played
Year 2- 701 minutes played

Can anyone reasonably justify giving up on the 11th pick after 768 minutes played?

He hasn't even had enough time for the game to slow down for him yet. I'm not saying he's going to become a 20 points a game player just like that but you don't draft guys just outside the top 10 knowing they're a project and dump them to save a couple million in cap space

They need to decide by October if they want to pick up his $7.3m option for next season. Do you think they should pick it up since he's young? Or sign a player like Tyus for $7m? If Jett was only making $2.5m per year, it would be easier to keep him. He was drafted too early.

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I don't have to make that decision. The fo and coaching staff are the ones working with him not me.

They've already taken some slack for using so many picks to get Bane. Whatever financial flexibility they get from ridding themselves of 21 year old Jett will be considered another lottery pick given away. Many already have the wasted pick opinion. Holding onto him to develop at the very least gives Jett the chance to prove he was worth the pick.

My point is we don't really know the player he's going to be.
I could also argue there's guys on this roster set to make more that we have had a much longer look at in WCJ and JI. So Jett doesn't have to be the guy moved to make more room. It may still turn out that eventually he has to get moved but this would be a knee jerk reaction IMO.

[Rainwater]

Read on Twitter

I know Moe is injured but he deserves better. Great for the Magic but terrible for him.

[basketballRob]

Jett turns 22 in September.

Year 1- 67 minutes played
Year 2- 701 minutes played

Can anyone reasonably justify giving up on the 11th pick after 768 minutes played?

He hasn't even had enough time for the game to slow down for him yet. I'm not saying he's going to become a 20 points a game player just like that but you don't draft guys just outside the top 10 knowing they're a project and dump them to save a couple million in cap space

They need to decide by October if they want to pick up his $7.3m option for next season. Do you think they should pick it up since he's young? Or sign a player like Tyus for $7m? If Jett was only making $2.5m per year, it would be easier to keep him. He was drafted too early.

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I don't have to make that decision. The fo and coaching staff are the ones working with him not me.

They've already taken some slack for using so many picks to get Bane. Whatever financial flexibility they get from ridding themselves of 21 year old Jett will be considered another lottery pick given away. Many already have the wasted pick opinion. Holding onto him to develop at the very least gives Jett the chance to prove he was worth the pick.

My point is we don't really know the player he's going to be.
I could also argue there's guys on this roster set to make more that we have had a much longer look at in WCJ and JI. So Jett doesn't have to be the guy moved to make more room. It may still turn out that eventually he has to get moved but this would be a knee jerk reaction IMO.

The problem is that they need to make a decision before he plays another game for the 2026-27 season at $7.3m. If we're over the 2nd apron, you can times his salary by 4. That would cost the Magic nearly $30m to keep Jett for the 2026-27 season and they need to decide by October.

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[RichCollab]

Jett turns 22 in September.

Year 1- 67 minutes played
Year 2- 701 minutes played

Can anyone reasonably justify giving up on the 11th pick after 768 minutes played?

He hasn't even had enough time for the game to slow down for him yet. I'm not saying he's going to become a 20 points a game player just like that but you don't draft guys just outside the top 10 knowing they're a project and dump them to save a couple million in cap space

They need to decide by October if they want to pick up his $7.3m option for next season. Do you think they should pick it up since he's young? Or sign a player like Tyus for $7m? If Jett was only making $2.5m per year, it would be easier to keep him. He was drafted too early.

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I don't have to make that decision. The fo and coaching staff are the ones working with him not me.

They've already taken some slack for using so many picks to get Bane. Whatever financial flexibility they get from ridding themselves of 21 year old Jett will be considered another lottery pick given away. Many already have the wasted pick opinion. Holding onto him to develop at the very least gives Jett the chance to prove he was worth the pick.

My point is we don't really know the player he's going to be.
I could also argue there's guys on this roster set to make more that we have had a much longer look at in WCJ and JI. So Jett doesn't have to be the guy moved to make more room. It may still turn out that eventually he has to get moved but this would be a knee jerk reaction IMO.

Being picked 11th doesn’t give you upside or make you an NBA player.

What bright spots have you seen that leads to believing more minutes even matter.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Jett turns 22 in September.

Year 1- 67 minutes played
Year 2- 701 minutes played

Can anyone reasonably justify giving up on the 11th pick after 768 minutes played?

He hasn't even had enough time for the game to slow down for him yet. I'm not saying he's going to become a 20 points a game player just like that but you don't draft guys just outside the top 10 knowing they're a project and dump them to save a couple million in cap space

I will not call a player a bust but he was drafted to the wrong team. If he was drafted to a team like Washington or Nets he’d be able to get the minutes he needs to develop. He has a great shot and a crazy quick release, but as a shooter, the limited minutes he gets just does not help him. I hope he can go to a team that allows him to just play without necessarily adding wins. Sometimes a player just needs that to learn the NBA ropes and hopefully become a good role player

[Rainwater]

This new CBA is just terrible. I bet Moe is not happy about the situation… on the other hand, he is injured. I would have to think the Magic will try to make up for it next summer depending on how he looks by the end of the season.

Completely agree with this, Moe got screwed.