2023 NBA Draft Thread

[drsd]

You think with Bulls pick and our pick high enough will make it possible to trade to Top 3 so we can have a chance at Brandon Miller or Scoot?

There is a Zero point zero percent chance that a team would trade out of the top-3 for picks.

But lets say a team like the Blazers goes top-3, then Suggs and Okeke, both Magic's picks, the Magic 2025 FRP and the Nuggets pick might get it done. I don't see that as value though.

[RookieStar]

Caleb couldn't hold Dick's jockstrap. Have you watched any of his games? Dude makes JJ look like Fultz.

My point is that during college both were touted to be that 6'8 shooter that moves around the court dragging the defenses with him. However, like a lot of college shooters, it didn't translate yet to the nba. Will it for Caleb? he is getting there but we will see. Will it translate for Grady? Hopefully but we will see.

Why not both? We have a need for an offball deadeye three point shooter. Draft Dick and let Caleb develop one more year and see which one pans out...or maybe both pan out. With Franz and Paolo as our playmaking forwards, I dont think it would hurt to have 2 offball shooters.

Of course... the nba nowadays is all about 3pt shooting. However, is that a good use of our extra lotto pick when we need to try to plug holes in our roster? With JI uncertain, Okeke not living up to his hype, Bamba gone and MoeW showing he is a matador during defense, wouldnt it be better to get a scoring big that plays defense? Or maybe another PG that shoots 3s? Or etc?

[basketballRob]

But there is also the possibility of losing Bulls Pick once they get into Top 4

Good point, and I appreciate your inclination for more of a safe and sure fire option. I’ll take the gamble of better positioning and higher odds of it transferring back to the Bulls over the safe option of a late lottery pick, but I prefer high risk high reward.

You think with Bulls pick and our pick high enough will make it possible to trade to Top 3 so we can have a chance at Brandon Miller or Scoot?

To me, I do not think Thompson Twins will move the needle for us

You get the pick next season, not lose it.

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[RookieStar]

The knock on Dick is that he isn't a good defender

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In fairness.. he tries. If you watch the games he fights through screens, stays in front of his man and etc. He is just too thin and gets pushed away.

Unlike say MoeW Bol and Mo who doesnt even try...

I mean you compare Grady to them and you thikk he is Suggs v2

[RookieStar]

Miller is kind of a an old true freshman isn't he?

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Yup. Thats gonna factor in a lot of GMs. Like someone compared him to Jabari... but he is 2 years older at this time no?

It looks like Miller has a better handle than Jabari.

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But Jabari looks to be more athletic than Miller

And round and round we go...

[basketballRob]

Wow, Derozan with a 4-point play to send it to OT

a) this is when the review is fun and adds to the game.

b) I hate that the NBA routinely calls fouls on threes after the ball is released. But here, to foul on the elbow as the shot is going up, how does DeRozan stay focused to make the three. WOW!

c) Ice cold FT to tie the game.

d) Even icier cold shot by Fox. Dude has no fear.


What a fun ending to a game.


AND: Chicago absorbed another loss and is currently ONLY 1/2 up on the Pacers to slide even further

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Derozan had another 4-point play like 2 minutes prior to this one.

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[basketballRob]

The knock on Dick is that he isn't a good defender

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In fairness.. he tries. If you watch the games he fights through screens, stays in front of his man and etc. He is just too thin and gets pushed away.

Unlike say MoeW Bol and Mo who doesnt even try...

I mean you compare Grady to them and you thikk he is Suggs v2

Someone described Dick as the worst defender in the Kansas starting lineup.

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[basketballRob]

Yup. Thats gonna factor in a lot of GMs. Like someone compared him to Jabari... but he is 2 years older at this time no?

It looks like Miller has a better handle than Jabari.

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But Jabari looks to be more athletic than Miller

And round and round we go...

Seth Greenberg thinks Miller can handle the ball as well as Durant. He doesn't say it in this clip, but I've heard him say it.

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[drsd]

Current 538 predictions.

Orlando at #5 with a 33-49 record. Frankly that's possible as it means a close out of 5-8 (38%). But I still see a 35-47 record as more likely (7-6 closeout).

It also has the Wizards and Bulls as tied for the 10 seed on 38-44 records. We are all Washington fans now!


Play-in tiebreakers
(1) Head-to-head won-lost percentage (tied 2-2)
(2) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division (really???)
(3) Division won-lost percentage for teams in the same division (not relevant)
(4) Conference won-lost percentage (Bulls up 23-22, to Wiz 19-24)
(5) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, own conference
(6) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, other conference
(7) Net Points, all games

[RookieStar]

The knock on Dick is that he isn't a good defender

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In fairness.. he tries. If you watch the games he fights through screens, stays in front of his man and etc. He is just too thin and gets pushed away.

Unlike say MoeW Bol and Mo who doesnt even try...

I mean you compare Grady to them and you thikk he is Suggs v2

Someone described Dick as the worst defender in the Kansas starting lineup.

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Whats the basis on that? Hes white? Hes thin?

As i said, based on the games i watch, he doesnt look lost in their rotation, he fights through and seems to be always in front of his man...

Of course if there are numbers to back up thatbhe sucks on defense then i might believe it cuz all my basis are in the eye test

[basketballRob]

In fairness.. he tries. If you watch the games he fights through screens, stays in front of his man and etc. He is just too thin and gets pushed away.

Unlike say MoeW Bol and Mo who doesnt even try...

I mean you compare Grady to them and you thikk he is Suggs v2

Someone described Dick as the worst defender in the Kansas starting lineup.

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Whats the basis on that? Hes white? Hes thin?

As i said, based on the games i watch, he doesnt look lost in their rotation, he fights through and seems to be always in front of his man...

Of course if there are numbers to back up thatbhe sucks on defense then i might believe it cuz all my basis are in the eye test

Apparently, Dick doesn't move laterally very well.

I listened to a recent Rafael Barlowe podcast, and they were ranking the prospects in the tournament. They talked a lot about his defense.

I don't think he'd work in our starting lineup.

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[RookieStar]

Someone described Dick as the worst defender in the Kansas starting lineup.

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Whats the basis on that? Hes white? Hes thin?

As i said, based on the games i watch, he doesnt look lost in their rotation, he fights through and seems to be always in front of his man...

Of course if there are numbers to back up thatbhe sucks on defense then i might believe it cuz all my basis are in the eye test

Apparently, Dick doesn't move laterally very well.

I listened to a recent Rafael Barlowe podcast, and they were ranking the prospects in the tournament. They talked a lot about his defense.

I don't think he'd work in our starting lineup.

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Not quick enough?? Then the games i watched must have been the exceptions since i couldve sworn he moves fast enough to be in front of his defenders. Well we will see during the combine when they measure those stuff..

[cedric76]

FYI Taylor Hendricks(ucf) is playing on espn 2 right now and he is an absolute stud. 6'9 swish army knife. Doesn't force the issue and seems to always make the right play. I wish the magic would aim for him some how. I think he is gonna be good in the nba. From Florida, playing for ucf, would fit right in.

Hendricks is my pick for Chi FRP

[basketballRob]

Current 538 predictions.

Orlando at #5 with a 33-49 record. Frankly that's possible as it means a close out of 5-8 (38%). But I still see a 35-47 record as more likely (7-6 closeout).

It also has the Wizards and Bulls as tied for the 10 seed on 38-44 records. We are all Washington fans now!


Play-in tiebreakers
(1) Head-to-head won-lost percentage (tied 2-2)
(2) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division (really???)
(3) Division won-lost percentage for teams in the same division (not relevant)
(4) Conference won-lost percentage (Bulls up 23-22, to Wiz 19-24)
(5) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, own conference
(6) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, other conference
(7) Net Points, all games

I'm curious what 538 will predict after the Bulls lost last night. My guess is they'll be projected to win one less game.

The Bulls play Minnesota and Miami in a b2b, then Philadelphia for two games, and then a West Coast trip.

I think they'll finish 5-8, not 7-6.

The Magic still has a little control because they play the Wizards twice. I would tank hard in those two games. Ironically, I believe Unseld and Mosely coached together in Denver years ago. I could see Mosely doing a solid for Unseld.

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[basketballRob]

The Bulls are currently 8th and have a 26.2% chance of moving into the top 4.

https://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds



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[Skybox]

If DET wins Wemby, could Duren become available (or an inexpensive Wiseman)?
If POR wins Scoot, could Simons ( If he isn’t already)
If DET wins Scoot, could Ivey…
If CHA wins Wemby, could Mark Williams?

Who else is talented but is or could be not a great fit at the draft…we’ve got immediate assets and cap to play with. Should be a momentous night if WeHam shows up.

[RichCollab]

The Bulls are currently 8th and have a 26.2% chance of moving into the top 4.

https://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds



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I hope Bulls finish 10 place. I really don’t want them to hit top 4 and raise the possibility we don’t get the pick.

[Knightro]

But I still see a 35-47 record as more likely (7-6 closeout).

Look at the schedule and tell me where you see 7 more wins because I’m not seeing that at all.

The Magic are only going to be favored in probably 2 of the remaining 13 games.

I’m hard pressed to see them winning 5 games they “shouldn’t” especially when they’re likely gonna shut certain players down over the final 1-2 weeks.

[basketballRob]

But I still see a 35-47 record as more likely (7-6 closeout).

Look at the schedule and tell me where you see 7 more wins because I’m not seeing that at all.

The Magic are only going to be favored in probably 2 of the remaining 13 games.

I’m hard pressed to see them winning 5 games they “shouldn’t” especially when they’re likely gonna shut certain players down over the final 1-2 weeks.

I think he's talking about the Bulls.

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[Knightro]

I think he's talking about the Bulls.

Doesn't look like it.