Official 2025 Offseason Thread

[anothermagicfan]

It’s shocking how many people still have faith in Jett.

It's not a faith in Jett thing. It's been said that he was trash.
Last year was basically his rookie season. Most rookies look like trash.

Look at the season and the injuries/inconsistent lineups.

We had the first 5 games and Paolo was looking amazing then he missed 30 games.

It became Franz time to shine.

Paolo comes back shortly after Franz goes down.

Franz comes back and Suggs and Mo go down for the rest of the season.

Almost every player had a down year especially shooting.

KCP had his worst season and he's played meaningful minutes on 2 championship teams. WCJ was absolutely trash last year and he's a veteran now. It was also the most games he's played. Cole saw less playing time and he was about the only guy left with any ball handling skills left.

I get looking at Jett and seeing a player not living up to his cap hit but it's absurd to say he's trash and we gotta move off his contract and not say the same thing about WCJ.

For me it's not that I have faith in Jett, I just need to see more because seasoned vets didn't look good last year sharing the magic court.

I can say that I don't have faith in WCJ and if shedding salary is what matters to make room for other additions or to avoid aprons and taxes then he's the guy that should go. We won't miss him. We never do when he's out.

[BadMofoPimp]

Poor Mac McClung

Keith Smith: The Orlando Magic have withdrawn the qualifying offer for Mac McClung, a league source told @spotrac . I’m told this was a decision the Magic made to allow McClung to seek opportunities elsewhere without the restricted status hanging over him. Orlando has a lot of guards and McClung didn’t have a clear path there. He’ll now look for another NBA opportunity elsewhere.

[basketballRob]

It’s shocking how many people still have faith in Jett.

It's not a faith in Jett thing. It's been said that he was trash.
Last year was basically his rookie season. Most rookies look like trash.

Look at the season and the injuries/inconsistent lineups.

We had the first 5 games and Paolo was looking amazing then he missed 30 games.

It became Franz time to shine.

Paolo comes back shortly after Franz goes down.

Franz comes back and Suggs and Mo go down for the rest of the season.

Almost every player had a down year especially shooting.

KCP had his worst season and he's played meaningful minutes on 2 championship teams. WCJ was absolutely trash last year and he's a veteran now. It was also the most games he's played. Cole saw less playing time and he was about the only guy left with any ball handling skills left.

I get looking at Jett and seeing a player not living up to his cap hit but it's absurd to say he's trash and we gotta move off his contract and not say the same thing about WCJ.

For me it's not that I have faith in Jett, I just need to see more because seasoned vets didn't look good last year sharing the magic court.

I can say that I don't have faith in WCJ and if shedding salary is what matters to make room for other additions or to avoid aprons and taxes then he's the guy that should go. We won't miss him. We never do when he's out.

Jett won't get any more chances with the Magic. They aren't going to pick up his option, and he'll probably accept a buyout. The only reason to keep him is that we're already going to need to pay him next season.

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[RookieStar]

All im saying is... this is one heck of an offseason.

We were used to Mr. Cash Considerations during draft.. kinda surprised we used our SRPs for a trade.

We were used to having "ho-hum" low-level trades, we just a blockbuster when the finals wasnt even over.

We were used to FA signings that doesnt make sense.. how surprising we got one that we have been harping on for so long.

We sure WeltPark arent Magic posters here?

[MagicTownBaller]

How sure are we that Martins wasn't the reason we weren't making moves? During his tenure here, haven't we been some of the worst offensive teams?

All of a sudden he retires the summer that we start making big moves? It's very convenient timing.

[RookieStar]

How sure are we that Martins wasn't the reason we weren't making moves? During his tenure here, haven't we been some of the worst offensive teams?

All of a sudden he retires the summer that we start making big moves? It's very convenient timing.

Because "officialy" after that Henny fiasco, Martins supposedly could not "touch" any basketball related stuff for the Magic. Only marketing and etc

[yoyojw17]

What sucks is that if Jett panned out, hes the exact type of player our bench needs. Heat check/microwave guy.

Thats why i wouldnt be so quick trading him. He has fair chance to win minutes against TDS or Penda. Mo is a good scoring realese valve but teams get bigger and bigger we would need someone to create on the perimeter.

Are you watching the same Jett as everyone else. He has been horrid and is no chance of winning minutes against TDS, much less Penda. Since he is just $5.5 mil of wasted money, I think any kind of trade with Brooklyn would be better than just cutting the guy.

Man.... You'll just mad that he didn't shoot 40% in his first real season in the NBA. No one knows what he is. But I've seen flashes of a willingness to take and make 3s .... Did it happen this season during our horrible ball rotation .... That eventually nerfed many players.....no. but for most people they say .. 'he can't do the only job he was asked to do".... Simplifying his season and putting nails in his coffin because all of a sudden they've had enough. But I watched him closely. Another thing that I noticed him able to do....... Is move the ball. He has more advanced reads that I expected and there were times he made plays that most people weren't expecting. But guess what ... Its his "2nd season".... But for the most part his first season with only 700+ minutes worth of sporadic insertions into the game. I'm not professing that he's going to show anything more.... But from the fact that they didn't trade him during bane trade.... We did not attempt to do so to clear cap to add moe.... Seems as though they feel good about him. And until the day that they trade him I'ma assume that he is a player that they really like and root for his success.

[zaymon]

What sucks is that if Jett panned out, hes the exact type of player our bench needs. Heat check/microwave guy.

Thats why i wouldnt be so quick trading him. He has fair chance to win minutes against TDS or Penda. Mo is a good scoring realese valve but teams get bigger and bigger we would need someone to create on the perimeter.

Are you watching the same Jett as everyone else. He has been horrid and is no chance of winning minutes against TDS, much less Penda. Since he is just $5.5 mil of wasted money, I think any kind of trade with Brooklyn would be better than just cutting the guy.

I can agree he wasnt good, but i saw flashes of quick decision making, accurate passing and he was good shooter in the g league showing more than spot up shooting.
Can we agree Jett didnt have the best situation for him last year ? Spotty minutes, no point guard, change of lineups. Better players than him sucked last year.

[drsd]

This new CBA is just terrible.

NBA salaries must now average more than 8 figures over a team's payroll. I am not sure that ensuring the 200th best basketball player at least 10,000,000.00 per year is "terrible".

EDIT: last year "only" 163 players made more than 10M.

The point of the aprons is eliminate super teams, not to lower salary. In that, the CBA is working as it was constructed.

[drsd]

Off day at work and you are still 50% better than everyone else!

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[Rainwater]

Thats why i wouldnt be so quick trading him. He has fair chance to win minutes against TDS or Penda. Mo is a good scoring realese valve but teams get bigger and bigger we would need someone to create on the perimeter.

Are you watching the same Jett as everyone else. He has been horrid and is no chance of winning minutes against TDS, much less Penda. Since he is just $5.5 mil of wasted money, I think any kind of trade with Brooklyn would be better than just cutting the guy.

Man.... You'll just mad that he didn't shoot 40% in his first real season in the NBA. No one knows what he is. But I've seen flashes of a willingness to take and make 3s .... Did it happen this season during our horrible ball rotation .... That eventually nerfed many players.....no. but for most people they say .. 'he can't do the only job he was asked to do".... Simplifying his season and putting nails in his coffin because all of a sudden they've had enough. But I watched him closely. Another thing that I noticed him able to do....... Is move the ball. He has more advanced reads that I expected and there were times he made plays that most people weren't expecting. But guess what ... Its his "2nd season".... But for the most part his first season with only 700+ minutes worth of sporadic insertions into the game. I'm not professing that he's going to show anything more.... But from the fact that they didn't trade him during bane trade.... We did not attempt to do so to clear cap to add moe.... Seems as though they feel good about him. And until the day that they trade him I'ma assume that he is a player that they really like and root for his success.

Jett might not even be in the league in two years lol

[zaymon]

Are you watching the same Jett as everyone else. He has been horrid and is no chance of winning minutes against TDS, much less Penda. Since he is just $5.5 mil of wasted money, I think any kind of trade with Brooklyn would be better than just cutting the guy.

Man.... You'll just mad that he didn't shoot 40% in his first real season in the NBA. No one knows what he is. But I've seen flashes of a willingness to take and make 3s .... Did it happen this season during our horrible ball rotation .... That eventually nerfed many players.....no. but for most people they say .. 'he can't do the only job he was asked to do".... Simplifying his season and putting nails in his coffin because all of a sudden they've had enough. But I watched him closely. Another thing that I noticed him able to do....... Is move the ball. He has more advanced reads that I expected and there were times he made plays that most people weren't expecting. But guess what ... Its his "2nd season".... But for the most part his first season with only 700+ minutes worth of sporadic insertions into the game. I'm not professing that he's going to show anything more.... But from the fact that they didn't trade him during bane trade.... We did not attempt to do so to clear cap to add moe.... Seems as though they feel good about him. And until the day that they trade him I'ma assume that he is a player that they really like and root for his success.

Jett might not even be in the league in two years lol

Sure, we dont disagree here. I just think he wasnt given a fair chance yet with stable minutes, role and anyone who can organize the game with his unit.

[basketballRob]

Thats why i wouldnt be so quick trading him. He has fair chance to win minutes against TDS or Penda. Mo is a good scoring realese valve but teams get bigger and bigger we would need someone to create on the perimeter.

Are you watching the same Jett as everyone else. He has been horrid and is no chance of winning minutes against TDS, much less Penda. Since he is just $5.5 mil of wasted money, I think any kind of trade with Brooklyn would be better than just cutting the guy.

Man.... You'll just mad that he didn't shoot 40% in his first real season in the NBA. No one knows what he is. But I've seen flashes of a willingness to take and make 3s .... Did it happen this season during our horrible ball rotation .... That eventually nerfed many players.....no. but for most people they say .. 'he can't do the only job he was asked to do".... Simplifying his season and putting nails in his coffin because all of a sudden they've had enough. But I watched him closely. Another thing that I noticed him able to do....... Is move the ball. He has more advanced reads that I expected and there were times he made plays that most people weren't expecting. But guess what ... Its his "2nd season".... But for the most part his first season with only 700+ minutes worth of sporadic insertions into the game. I'm not professing that he's going to show anything more.... But from the fact that they didn't trade him during bane trade.... We did not attempt to do so to clear cap to add moe.... Seems as though they feel good about him. And until the day that they trade him I'ma assume that he is a player that they really like and root for his success.

Everyone in the league expects the Magic not to pick up Jett's $7.3m option for 2026. If we don't trade or waive him their are restrictions to re-signing him after we opt out of his rookie deal.

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[drsd]

Everyone in the league expects the Magic not to pick up Jett's $7.3m option for 2026. If we don't trade or waive him their are restrictions to re-signing him after we opt out of his rookie deal.

The Magic is currently at about 205M in 2026/27 salary. Erasing that 7M seems virtually cetain to me. At best, Howard should be making vet-min money.

[anothermagicfan]

Looks like we're going into the season with a 14 man roster and two ways to fill out. Last off-season almost everyone on here was saying Caleb wasn't an NBA player and now we're all bummed he won't be back. Good news is Jett is still here for everyone to hate on

[Blue_and_Whte]

I’m leaning towards Jett being a bust but I’m still slightly optimistic he can salvage his career here (assuming we keep him)

[RichCollab]

Looks like we're going into the season with a 14 man roster and two ways to fill out. Last off-season almost everyone on here was saying Caleb wasn't an NBA player and now we're all bummed he won't be back. Good news is Jett is still here for everyone to hate on

Everyone is bummed because Caleb isn’t back?

[AdamTheGreek]

How sure are we that Martins wasn't the reason we weren't making moves? During his tenure here, haven't we been some of the worst offensive teams?

All of a sudden he retires the summer that we start making big moves? It's very convenient timing.

Martins hasn’t retired, he’s still involved on the board, he’s just not fully on the daily Magic grind any longer.
He hasn’t been involved on the basketball side since hiring Weltman.
Weltman wouldn’t have taken the job in 2017 and he sure wouldn’t still be here in 2025 if Martins meddled.
Rich DeVos died before the start of the ‘18-‘19 season. Going into that 2018 offseason (and maybe even when Jeff was hired in 2017), the DeVos family wanted to see us back in the playoffs since it had been so long. It’s likely Rich’s health played a factor.
So Weltman waited and saw what he had with Vooch, Fournier, AG, etc.
We had our two playoff appearances, then that brutal injury-riddled season derailed everything and the tank and rebuild was on.

Weltman had an awful offseason last year (Isaac, Wendell contracts, KCP, not replacing Ingles and Fultz properly). Franz and Suggs contract extensions were fine. Drafting Tristan was great. Signing CoJo ended up being way more important than it should’ve been.

Then Jeff inexplicably sat on his hands at the trade deadline and that cost us in the Boston series.

He had no choice but to get aggressive. He still doesn’t have his contract extension announced. So as far as we publicly know, this is still the final 12 months of his contractual obligation.
He’s had to make a lot of moves this offseason, because he had no choice but to.
It’s still not done, but so far it’s been a solid offseason.

[magicfan217]

If Jett couldn't earn minutes last year, he's very likely not earning them again this year. That pick was way out of left field. I don't mind them taking a swing on their guy but it looks like it quite obviously isn't going to work out. There's almost zero chance they pick up his option next year and honestly the best case scenario for Jett is to go to a bad team who will just let him play regardless of the outcome...that's not going to be here.

[AdamTheGreek]

Looks like we're going into the season with a 14 man roster and two ways to fill out. Last off-season almost everyone on here was saying Caleb wasn't an NBA player and now we're all bummed he won't be back. Good news is Jett is still here for everyone to hate on

Everyone is bummed because Caleb isn’t back?

Yes because Caleb is young, cheap, and was our best 3-point shooter last season.
You need cheap guys to fill out the roster.

You salary dump Jett every day of the week and twice on Sunday if you can re-sign Caleb and sign Queen to 15-man deal.

Jett was drafted for one thing: shooting.
Jett is a career 29.4 3PT%. That’s ****.
And he’s clearly not been good enough at practices, otherwise he’d get more chances.
You know who busts his ass and consistently gets praised by the entire organization? Caleb. The guy who is still 22 and is a career 37.2 3PT%.