Official 2025 Offseason Thread

[magicfan217]

Caleb hasn't signed anywhere. I am sure the organization is trying to figure out a way to get him back in the fold. I can't imagine that NOBODY around the league wants to sign him...which tells me that he wants to stay in Orlando and is waiting on them to figure it out. Maybe I'm wrong and there is just no interest in Caleb league wide but I would be pretty surprised

[RichCollab]

Looks like we're going into the season with a 14 man roster and two ways to fill out. Last off-season almost everyone on here was saying Caleb wasn't an NBA player and now we're all bummed he won't be back. Good news is Jett is still here for everyone to hate on

Everyone is bummed because Caleb isn’t back?

Yes because Caleb is young, cheap, and was our best 3-point shooter last season.
You need cheap guys to fill out the roster.

You salary dump Jett every day of the week and twice on Sunday if you can re-sign Caleb and sign Queen to 15-man deal.

Jett was drafted for one thing: shooting.
Jett is a career 29.4 3PT%. That’s ****.
And he’s clearly not been good enough at practices, otherwise he’d get more chances.
You know who busts his ass and consistently gets praised by the entire organization? Caleb. The guy who is still 22 and is a career 37.2 3PT%.

I love Caleb because he is the cheapest possible contract possible. So vs empty spot vs a player. Sure.

But are you really bummed outside of that?

[AdamTheGreek]

Caleb hasn't signed anywhere. I am sure the organization is trying to figure out a way to get him back in the fold. I can't imagine that NOBODY around the league wants to sign him...which tells me that he wants to stay in Orlando and is waiting on them to figure it out. Maybe I'm wrong and there is just no interest in Caleb league wide but I would be pretty surprised

Jason Glushon is the agent for Franz, Mo, and Caleb.
Mo is done. Franz was done last year. Now Caleb is up. I will be very surprised if Caleb isn’t re-signed.

It’s likely we’re awaiting a salary trade dump (likely Jett). Maybe we’re involved in one of these rumored 7-team, 3-team, 4-team trades circling about the league.

[AdamTheGreek]

Everyone is bummed because Caleb isn’t back?

Yes because Caleb is young, cheap, and was our best 3-point shooter last season.
You need cheap guys to fill out the roster.

You salary dump Jett every day of the week and twice on Sunday if you can re-sign Caleb and sign Queen to 15-man deal.

Jett was drafted for one thing: shooting.
Jett is a career 29.4 3PT%. That’s ****.
And he’s clearly not been good enough at practices, otherwise he’d get more chances.
You know who busts his ass and consistently gets praised by the entire organization? Caleb. The guy who is still 22 and is a career 37.2 3PT%.

I love Caleb because he is the cheapest possible contract possible. So vs empty spot vs a player. Sure.

But are you really bummed outside of that?

Yes. He’s good. I don’t care if he hasn’t dunked yet.
He’s been part of important wins over the years. Not every 13th, 14th, 15th man across the league can do that.

[three3d]

2025-26 : $35.850,000.00

2026-26 : $32,602,000.00

2027-28 : $34,050,000.00

2028-29 : $35,998,000.00

Wendell Carter Jr + Jonathan Issac’s combined season salary total……

[Skybox]

Caleb hasn't signed anywhere. I am sure the organization is trying to figure out a way to get him back in the fold. I can't imagine that NOBODY around the league wants to sign him...which tells me that he wants to stay in Orlando and is waiting on them to figure it out. Maybe I'm wrong and there is just no interest in Caleb league wide but I would be pretty surprised

Jason Glushon is the agent for Franz, Mo, and Caleb.
Mo is done. Franz was done last year. Now Caleb is up. I will be very surprised if Caleb isn’t re-signed.

It’s likely we’re awaiting a salary trade dump (likely Jett). Maybe we’re involved in one of these rumored 7-team, 3-team, 4-team trades circling about the league.

You have to wonder why Moe signed if there might be a salary dump pending...obviously, they're all talking, especially with a shared agent. You'd think Moe would be in line to grab a bigger chunk of that Jett money. $5m is, I guess, something to praise Weltman for but isn't there a bit of a concern that it's not exactly anything but a loss for Mo? I'm sure there's a promise for future rewards, but still...Tyus was probably expecting a big payday from PHX after accepting their garbage offer last year too...I'm saying Weltman would reneg, but it's not like ORL will have significant money next summer either.

[AdamTheGreek]

Caleb hasn't signed anywhere. I am sure the organization is trying to figure out a way to get him back in the fold. I can't imagine that NOBODY around the league wants to sign him...which tells me that he wants to stay in Orlando and is waiting on them to figure it out. Maybe I'm wrong and there is just no interest in Caleb league wide but I would be pretty surprised

Jason Glushon is the agent for Franz, Mo, and Caleb.
Mo is done. Franz was done last year. Now Caleb is up. I will be very surprised if Caleb isn’t re-signed.

It’s likely we’re awaiting a salary trade dump (likely Jett). Maybe we’re involved in one of these rumored 7-team, 3-team, 4-team trades circling about the league.

You have to wonder why Moe signed if there might be a salary dump pending...obviously, they're all talking, especially with a shared agent. You'd think Moe would be in line to grab a bigger chunk of that Jett money. $5m is, I guess, something to praise Weltman for but isn't there a bit of a concern that it's not exactly anything but a loss for Mo? I'm sure there's a promise for future rewards, but still...Tyus was probably expecting a big payday from PHX after accepting their garbage offer last year too...I'm saying Weltman would reneg, but it's not like ORL will have significant money next summer either.

There’s a specific planned reason for that $5 mil. figure that has likely been shared with Glushon since it’ll likely factor in Caleb’s number, too.
I haven’t looked at how far above the luxury tax we are, but maybe there’s a path to get under that.
If we dump a guy, we’re obviously down to 13 guys.
We’re definitely getting to 15 guys.

[orlando_joe]

2025-26 : $35.850,000.00

2026-26 : $32,602,000.00

2027-28 : $34,050,000.00

2028-29 : $35,998,000.00

Wendell Carter Jr + Jonathan Issac’s combined season salary total……

pretty great deal!...if you need a list of players making as much that are worse its a lot longer then better that are not on rookie deals

also you are 10 mill over on this yr closer to 26 mill for both

[Optimus_Steel]

Jett is gonna prove y’all wrong!!

[sk8wrulz]

2025-26 : $35.850,000.00

2026-26 : $32,602,000.00

2027-28 : $34,050,000.00

2028-29 : $35,998,000.00

Wendell Carter Jr + Jonathan Issac’s combined season salary total……

The moment the WCJ contract was signed, I knew it will be a disaster.

[cedric76]

Caleb will be back

[BadMofoPimp]

Thats why i wouldnt be so quick trading him. He has fair chance to win minutes against TDS or Penda. Mo is a good scoring realese valve but teams get bigger and bigger we would need someone to create on the perimeter.

Are you watching the same Jett as everyone else. He has been horrid and is no chance of winning minutes against TDS, much less Penda. Since he is just $5.5 mil of wasted money, I think any kind of trade with Brooklyn would be better than just cutting the guy.

Man.... You'll just mad that he didn't shoot 40% in his first real season in the NBA. No one knows what he is. But I've seen flashes of a willingness to take and make 3s .... Did it happen this season during our horrible ball rotation .... That eventually nerfed many players.....no. but for most people they say .. 'he can't do the only job he was asked to do".... Simplifying his season and putting nails in his coffin because all of a sudden they've had enough. But I watched him closely. Another thing that I noticed him able to do....... Is move the ball. He has more advanced reads that I expected and there were times he made plays that most people weren't expecting. But guess what ... Its his "2nd season".... But for the most part his first season with only 700+ minutes worth of sporadic insertions into the game. I'm not professing that he's going to show anything more.... But from the fact that they didn't trade him during bane trade.... We did not attempt to do so to clear cap to add moe.... Seems as though they feel good about him. And until the day that they trade him I'ma assume that he is a player that they really like and root for his success.

Has he done anything worthwhile? Defense? Anything? Caleb, Harris and Queen all outplayed him.

[yoyojw17]

Are you watching the same Jett as everyone else. He has been horrid and is no chance of winning minutes against TDS, much less Penda. Since he is just $5.5 mil of wasted money, I think any kind of trade with Brooklyn would be better than just cutting the guy.

Man.... You'll just mad that he didn't shoot 40% in his first real season in the NBA. No one knows what he is. But I've seen flashes of a willingness to take and make 3s .... Did it happen this season during our horrible ball rotation .... That eventually nerfed many players.....no. but for most people they say .. 'he can't do the only job he was asked to do".... Simplifying his season and putting nails in his coffin because all of a sudden they've had enough. But I watched him closely. Another thing that I noticed him able to do....... Is move the ball. He has more advanced reads that I expected and there were times he made plays that most people weren't expecting. But guess what ... Its his "2nd season".... But for the most part his first season with only 700+ minutes worth of sporadic insertions into the game. I'm not professing that he's going to show anything more.... But from the fact that they didn't trade him during bane trade.... We did not attempt to do so to clear cap to add moe.... Seems as though they feel good about him. And until the day that they trade him I'ma assume that he is a player that they really like and root for his success.

Has he done anything worthwhile? Defense? Anything? Caleb, Harris and Queen all outplayed him.

Lol.... You don't say. Point is.... They haven't done anything "get rid of him" as most people say. Why is that? Possily because they might see something that did not transition to the league in his first full season. Potential is what he's here on. We will see how it all plays out... But seems as though the FO has more confidence in him than most fans. Easier for me to go with the stream (believing that there can be more and exercising patience) than be a fan frustrated with minimal understanding other than one season of failure. Same fans that would be like .. "let's get scoot henderson and see if he becomes a next star for us off of potential" lol

[three3d]

2025-26 : $35.850,000.00

2026-26 : $32,602,000.00

2027-28 : $34,050,000.00

2028-29 : $35,998,000.00

Wendell Carter Jr + Jonathan Issac’s combined season salary total……

pretty great deal!...if you need a list of players making as much that are worse its a lot longer then better that are not on rookie deals

also you are 10 mill over on this yr closer to 26 mill for both

Pretty awful given what they give or don’t give you. Isaiah Hartenstein would cost you $25.5M alone and I’d take him over both JI and WCJ at this point. The point is those two guys salaries combined are to much and they are both problems on the roster.

[yoyojw17]

Man.... You'll just mad that he didn't shoot 40% in his first real season in the NBA. No one knows what he is. But I've seen flashes of a willingness to take and make 3s .... Did it happen this season during our horrible ball rotation .... That eventually nerfed many players.....no. but for most people they say .. 'he can't do the only job he was asked to do".... Simplifying his season and putting nails in his coffin because all of a sudden they've had enough. But I watched him closely. Another thing that I noticed him able to do....... Is move the ball. He has more advanced reads that I expected and there were times he made plays that most people weren't expecting. But guess what ... Its his "2nd season".... But for the most part his first season with only 700+ minutes worth of sporadic insertions into the game. I'm not professing that he's going to show anything more.... But from the fact that they didn't trade him during bane trade.... We did not attempt to do so to clear cap to add moe.... Seems as though they feel good about him. And until the day that they trade him I'ma assume that he is a player that they really like and root for his success.

Jett might not even be in the league in two years lol

Sure, we dont disagree here. I just think he wasnt given a fair chance yet with stable minutes, role and anyone who can organize the game with his unit.

Exactly ...Once you add context.... You can go beyond the numbers... And understand why they would have patience with him.

[basketballRob]

Man.... You'll just mad that he didn't shoot 40% in his first real season in the NBA. No one knows what he is. But I've seen flashes of a willingness to take and make 3s .... Did it happen this season during our horrible ball rotation .... That eventually nerfed many players.....no. but for most people they say .. 'he can't do the only job he was asked to do".... Simplifying his season and putting nails in his coffin because all of a sudden they've had enough. But I watched him closely. Another thing that I noticed him able to do....... Is move the ball. He has more advanced reads that I expected and there were times he made plays that most people weren't expecting. But guess what ... Its his "2nd season".... But for the most part his first season with only 700+ minutes worth of sporadic insertions into the game. I'm not professing that he's going to show anything more.... But from the fact that they didn't trade him during bane trade.... We did not attempt to do so to clear cap to add moe.... Seems as though they feel good about him. And until the day that they trade him I'ma assume that he is a player that they really like and root for his success.

Has he done anything worthwhile? Defense? Anything? Caleb, Harris and Queen all outplayed him.

Lol.... You don't say. Point is.... They haven't done anything "get rid of him" as most people say. Why is that? Possily because they might see something that did not transition to the league in his first full season. Potential is what he's here on. We will see how it all plays out... But seems as though the FO has more confidence in him than most fans. Easier for me to go with the stream (believing that there can be more and exercising patience) than be a fan frustrated with minimal understanding other than one season of failure. Same fans that would be like .. "let's get scoot henderson and see if he becomes a next star for us off of potential" lol

Jett has had 2 seasons of failure. Caleb has been playing meaningful minutes for the last 2 years. Jett gets run off the court in the chances he's had to play meaningful minutes.

The Magic have until October to opt out of the 2026-27 season for Jett. I assume they are trying to trade him now. If they can't find a trade by October, they'll opt out.

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[three3d]

Jett is gonna prove y’all wrong!!

Jett will forever be infamous for us. To put perspective on just how bad of a pick that was just think about what Derek Lively II would have done for us. We wouldn’t be looking to upgrade the Center position we would have the answer and he’d be costing us $5M, $7M, and $10M only the next 3 seasons. Drafting Jett Howard is EXACTLY how you ruin your chance and/or miss your window. And I’m sure I don’t need to remind anyone, but Derek Lively was drafted right after Jett smh.

[basketballRob]

Jett is gonna prove y’all wrong!!

Jett will forever be infamous for us. To put perspective on just how bad of a pick that was just think about what Derek Lively II would have done for us. We wouldn’t be looking to upgrade the Center position we would have the answer and he’d be costing us $5M, $7M, and $10M only the next 3 seasons. Drafting Jett Howard is EXACTLY how you ruin your chance and/or miss your window.

If we hit on a couple of those picks between 11-20, we wouldn't have needed to trade for Bane. We could've just made our 2 picks and had the same model OKC does.

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[three3d]

Jett is gonna prove y’all wrong!!

Jett will forever be infamous for us. To put perspective on just how bad of a pick that was just think about what Derek Lively II would have done for us. We wouldn’t be looking to upgrade the Center position we would have the answer and he’d be costing us $5M, $7M, and $10M only the next 3 seasons. Drafting Jett Howard is EXACTLY how you ruin your chance and/or miss your window.

If we hit on a couple of those picks between 11-20, we wouldn't have needed to trade for Bane. We could've just made our 2 picks and had the same model OKC does.

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The jury is still out on AB, he’s definitely not a point guard right now BUT we shall see what Shamgod can do with him. At least we can feel a little better knowing there some point guard mentorship available now.

Unpopular opinion, I’d start AB out on Osceola to start the season. I said it last year also, he has to get heavy minutes to be able to make mistakes and learn without costing the club. He has to find his strength in his game and also work on his physical strength. He has flashes but there not consistent enough flashes.

[basketballRob]

Jett will forever be infamous for us. To put perspective on just how bad of a pick that was just think about what Derek Lively II would have done for us. We wouldn’t be looking to upgrade the Center position we would have the answer and he’d be costing us $5M, $7M, and $10M only the next 3 seasons. Drafting Jett Howard is EXACTLY how you ruin your chance and/or miss your window.

If we hit on a couple of those picks between 11-20, we wouldn't have needed to trade for Bane. We could've just made our 2 picks and had the same model OKC does.

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The jury is still out on AB, he’s definitely not a point guard right now BUT we shall see what Shamgod can do with him. At least we can feel a little better knowing there some point guard mentorship available now.

Unpopular opinion, I’d start AB out on Osceola to start the season. I said it last year also, he has to get heavy minutes to be able to make mistakes and learn without costing the club. He has to find his strength in his game and also work on his physical strength. He has flashes but there not consistent enough flashes.

Black isn't going to Osceola. We lost 2 of our better defensive guards in KCP and Harris. If one of Black or Suggs goes out, it'll be tougher to have one of the better defenses.

Black's handle improved in the second half of last season and will likely improve more next season.

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