Official 2025 Offseason Thread

[three3d]

If we hit on a couple of those picks between 11-20, we wouldn't have needed to trade for Bane. We could've just made our 2 picks and had the same model OKC does.

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The jury is still out on AB, he’s definitely not a point guard right now BUT we shall see what Shamgod can do with him. At least we can feel a little better knowing there some point guard mentorship available now.

Unpopular opinion, I’d start AB out on Osceola to start the season. I said it last year also, he has to get heavy minutes to be able to make mistakes and learn without costing the club. He has to find his strength in his game and also work on his physical strength. He has flashes but there not consistent enough flashes.

Black isn't going to Osceola. We lost 2 of our better defensive guards in KCP and Harris. If one of Black or Suggs goes out, it'll be tougher to have one of the better defenses.

Black's handle improved in the second half of last season and will likely improve more next season.

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You’re right he’s probably not or wouldn’t be sent there to develop, the NBA just hasn’t used the G-League like that. But it would be an interesting development if it was used as a farm system and honestly what’s wrong with him being able to speed his development up doing it that way? I guarantee you this, if he was sent there and the system used in that manner we’d know very quick if he had it in him to do it at the next level. He’s young and getting to play big minutes without worrying about being pulled out for mistakes will help his developing. If you can’t dominate G-League or enforce your will at that level odds are definitely not in your favor to ever do it on the main stage.

[BadMofoPimp]

Would rather Black backup SG. Let Tyus backup PG. That would make a nice 2nd string backcourt.

[three3d]

Would rather Black backup SG. Let Tyus backup PG. That would make a nice 2nd string backcourt.

I think a big problem is we’re heading into year 3 with AB and we don’t even know what position he is yet. He’s got so many things to work on basketball wise while still needing to physically develop. Maybe it’s a grow into your body then grow into your game thing idk.

[basketballRob]

Would rather Black backup SG. Let Tyus backup PG. That would make a nice 2nd string backcourt.

I think a big problem is we’re heading into year 3 with AB and we don’t even know what position he is yet. He’s got so many things to work on basketball wise while still needing to physically develop. Maybe it’s a grow into your body then grow into your game thing idk.

Players don't come into the league at 19, 20, or 21 years old and become a PG for a playoff team. Young players always make mistakes, and they limit them from having the ball in their hands. As he gets experience, they will ask him to do more.

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[BadMofoPimp]

Would rather Black backup SG. Let Tyus backup PG. That would make a nice 2nd string backcourt.

I think a big problem is we’re heading into year 3 with AB and we don’t even know what position he is yet. He’s got so many things to work on basketball wise while still needing to physically develop. Maybe it’s a grow into your body then grow into your game thing idk.

Having Black who can hit the 3, defend both positions and handle the rock as a SG would benefit this team. Develop into a better KCP in his prime.

[three3d]

Would rather Black backup SG. Let Tyus backup PG. That would make a nice 2nd string backcourt.

I think a big problem is we’re heading into year 3 with AB and we don’t even know what position he is yet. He’s got so many things to work on basketball wise while still needing to physically develop. Maybe it’s a grow into your body then grow into your game thing idk.

Having Black who can hit the 3, defend both positions and handle the rock as a SG would benefit this team. Develop into a better KCP in his prime.

But can AB hit the 3?? Sure most of his shots are wide open and he hits those, but is it because he’s creating that shot or is the defense giving it to him? Maybe a bad comparison but take TJ McConnell for instance, he’s bad at shooting 3’s the defense gives it to him because he’s a much tougher player to stop driving to the basket. Can TJ hit the 3, bottom line sure but you dint want him taking them. Can AB become that? He has to have actual handles or a clear advantage that allows him to be so good at something else they’d rather him shoot.

[jezzerinho]

Bad timing for Black in terms of ORL's cap cycle.

Assuming he gets it together his extension will come just ad we are least able to pay him. If he doesn't get it together offensively, we'd likely prefer his salary going in more productive directions. Tricky timing for AB. Nothing he can control.though, he just needs to keep working.

[three3d]

Bad timing for Black in terms of ORL's cap cycle.

Assuming he gets it together his extension will come just ad we are least able to pay him. If he doesn't get it together offensively, we'd likely prefer his salary going in more productive directions. Tricky timing for AB. Nothing he can control.though, he just needs to keep working.

I just wish we could see the practice or summer version of AB that gets all the glowing reviews. They seem like polar opposites some times. Is that an AB personally issue or is it organizational control?

[mattdelray1220]

The AB stuff is crazy to me. The G-league? He is going to lead our bench in minutes this year. He is a stud. Takes time but I expect a big leap from him year 3. Even if its a small leap he is already top tier on the defensive end.

[eyriq]

Bad timing for Black in terms of ORL's cap cycle.

Assuming he gets it together his extension will come just ad we are least able to pay him. If he doesn't get it together offensively, we'd likely prefer his salary going in more productive directions. Tricky timing for AB. Nothing he can control.though, he just needs to keep working.

I think it'll come down to AB or Suggs.

[basketballRob]

Bad timing for Black in terms of ORL's cap cycle.

Assuming he gets it together his extension will come just ad we are least able to pay him. If he doesn't get it together offensively, we'd likely prefer his salary going in more productive directions. Tricky timing for AB. Nothing he can control.though, he just needs to keep working.

He's got it together. You're creating things that aren't reality.

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[three3d]

The AB stuff is crazy to me. The G-league? He is going to lead our bench in minutes this year. He is a stud. Takes time but I expect a big lap from him year 3. Even if its a small leap he is already top tier on the defensive end.

I don’t suggest the G-League as a demotion, more of a means of unleashing the kid. Let him fight and see how good he is or can be. Take the leash off him and let him play and learn and speed his process up. If we are truly playing “WIN NOW” basketball this season we do need him to take that leap.

[basketballRob]

The AB stuff is crazy to me. The G-league? He is going to lead our bench in minutes this year. He is a stud. Takes time but I expect a big lap from him year 3. Even if its a small leap he is already top tier on the defensive end.

I don’t suggest the G-League as a demotion, more of a means of unleashing the kid. Let him fight and see how good he is or can be. Take the leash off him and let him play and learn and speed his process up. If we are truly playing “WIN NOW” basketball this season we do need him to take that leap.

He's already a part of a playoff rotation.

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[three3d]

The AB stuff is crazy to me. The G-league? He is going to lead our bench in minutes this year. He is a stud. Takes time but I expect a big lap from him year 3. Even if its a small leap he is already top tier on the defensive end.

I don’t suggest the G-League as a demotion, more of a means of unleashing the kid. Let him fight and see how good he is or can be. Take the leash off him and let him play and learn and speed his process up. If we are truly playing “WIN NOW” basketball this season we do need him to take that leap.

He's already a part of a playoff rotation.

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17.8 minutes per game , 40.5% FG, 15.4% 3PT, 69% free throw, 4 rebounds per, 0 assists per , 8 points per game just isn’t going to cut it.

[basketballRob]

I don’t suggest the G-League as a demotion, more of a means of unleashing the kid. Let him fight and see how good he is or can be. Take the leash off him and let him play and learn and speed his process up. If we are truly playing “WIN NOW” basketball this season we do need him to take that leap.

He's already a part of a playoff rotation.

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17.8 minutes per game , 40.5% FG, 15.4% 3PT, 69% free throw, 4 rebounds per, 0 assists per , 8 points per game just isn’t going to cut it.

He's naturally going to be better in year 3. Franz was in year 4 and shot 44.3%, 18.9%, and 76.9%. Should we send Franz to the G-League?

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[three3d]

He's already a part of a playoff rotation.

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17.8 minutes per game , 40.5% FG, 15.4% 3PT, 69% free throw, 4 rebounds per, 0 assists per , 8 points per game just isn’t going to cut it.

He's naturally going to be better in year 3.

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Naturally yes he has to be. Those playoff % don’t make any sense though because they are all pretty horrible yet he averaged 8 points per game.

[basketballRob]

17.8 minutes per game , 40.5% FG, 15.4% 3PT, 69% free throw, 4 rebounds per, 0 assists per , 8 points per game just isn’t going to cut it.

He's naturally going to be better in year 3.

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Naturally yes he has to be. Those playoff % don’t make any sense though because they are all pretty horrible yet he averaged 8 points per game.

It happens in your first playoffs against the #3 defense in the league.

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[basketballRob]

At 22, FVV averaged 2 ppg in the playoffs. At 23, he averaged 6.8 ppg. At 24, he averaged 8 ppg. At 25, he averaged 19.6 ppg.

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[Orlando Dawg]

Once they resign Caleb who can actually shoot
Black is going to be the 3rd string guard
DNP - coaches decision

[three3d]

At 22, FVV averaged 2 ppg in the playoffs. At 23, he averaged 6.8 ppg. At 24, he averaged 8 ppg. At 25, he averaged 19.6 ppg.

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I wish we could take some of what’s in Suggs and inject that into AB. What I mean is this, Suggs by all accounts looks and seems like a great person. But Suggs has got some crazy psycho on court energy and emotion. He’s instant fuel fire and passion. He transforms when he plays, it’s actually pretty crazy and amazing to watch at the same time.