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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#241 » by ChosenSavior » Mon May 7, 2012 9:25 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:i thought he'd be okay without dwight? Smh. I knew hed flounder in the playoffs.


Welcome back homie! Yeah he has been marshmallow soft in this series. Hopefully he battles out there from this point on since we are on the brink of being eliminated.
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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#242 » by Bensational » Mon May 7, 2012 9:53 pm

why is Otis still talking prominently about Anderson's future here? shouldn't that be a concern for the next GM?
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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#243 » by ChildishGambino » Mon May 7, 2012 10:34 pm

Bensational wrote:why is Otis still talking prominently about Anderson's future here? shouldn't that be a concern for the next GM?

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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#244 » by Truth24 » Tue May 8, 2012 5:08 am

Ryan Anderson is my favorite Magic player right after Dwight Howard, but he isn't some special type of player. I would be very sad if we lost Ryan during free agency but he isn't a player that you spend the next 10 plus years trying to replace. I want Ryan on this team his shooting and rebounding are great but I don't want to over pay for him. I look at it like this Ryan Anderson would be one of the easiest player to replace in terms of finding a strecth four who can shoot and rebound. If we truly miss what he brings, if Justin Harper can't fill that need just bring in Kyle Wiltjer or Alec Brown in next year. Listen I want to keep Ryan and I believe he is our best four but I don't want to over pay for him.
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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#245 » by Roseability » Tue May 8, 2012 5:17 am

It's just four games. A lot of it comes down to Ryan not getting the ball in places to score, i.e. not having ball handlers looking for his shot. After he's started cold, Ryan hasn't seemed to be targetted for shots. This team is not a very good passing team, Ryan included, so when a player goes cold they are not targetted by passers. Stan does not run plays for Ryan, and this hurts his scoring when the defense is tight. I do think Anderson gets intimidated at times, and his will power needs to be greater. He needs to take issue with an old David West outplaying him (and not let his poor offensive performance bleed into his defensive and rebounding effort). Yet, I think if he had started hot in game one, we might have seen a completely difference performance. The Pacers have kept tight on Anderson, at the expense of their post and help D. Big Baby is reaping some of the benefit of that. Ryan does seem to have confidence issues, but is a young player with the most room for growth of any player on the team. Look for a strong game 5 from Anderson!
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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#246 » by The Real Dalic » Tue May 8, 2012 5:30 am

Lol at the only excuse for Ryan Defenders being "he doesn't get plays called for him". . . He's failing with, or without, plays being called for him.
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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#247 » by Roseability » Tue May 8, 2012 5:42 am

The Real Dalic wrote:Lol at the only excuse for Ryan supporters being "he doesn't get plays called for him". . . He's failing with, or without, plays being called for him.

Wait you're not a Ryan supporter. You should support the players, if you're a Magic fan. I'm sick of the fantasy basketballers - let's trade every single player away to get Monta Ellis and Josh Smith crowd. Do you have any love for the 2012 Orlando Magic. Ryan's proven all year he can ball. Four bad games and you want to throw him to the lions. He's a work in progress.
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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#248 » by The Real Dalic » Tue May 8, 2012 6:24 am

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The Real Dalic wrote:Lol at the only excuse for Ryan supporters being "he doesn't get plays called for him". . . He's failing with, or without, plays being called for him.

Wait you're not a Ryan supporter. You should support the players, if you're a Magic fan. I'm sick of the fantasy basketballers - let's trade every single player away to get Monta Ellis and Josh Smith crowd. Do you have any love for the 2012 Orlando Magic. Ryan's proven all year he can ball. Four bad games and you want to throw him to the lions. He's a work in progress.

We CANNOT afford anymore "works in progress". . . We need ESTABLISHED players, and no, I don't mean washed up players. We can throw in some players like T-Mac from off the bench, but, what I mean by established is a player like Smoove or Ellis or Iggy etc. We need some stars and wing defenders. Not 3pt shooters. . . We have enough of those.

Let me rephrase the "supporters" thing. I meant "defenders". I support everyone on our team even Duhon (as much as I want him gone), but, I will always cheer for our guys and want them to succeed.

Also, no, he hasn't proven he can ball. He's proven that he disappears against teams that matter and shows up against teams that don't. That's what he's proven.

And about the lets trade everyone for Ellis or Smoove comment, can you really blame us? Do you see our team right now? We're lost without Dwight. . . I understand that we'll always be bad without Dwight, no matter who we get (unless it's a LeBron James caliber type player). But, we should be slightly better than we are now. All we are is a 3pt shooting team. You can't really blame us for wanting to improve our favorite team.
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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#249 » by Reverse_Angle » Tue May 8, 2012 7:07 am

To expand on dalic's point, I think we could tolerate projects. But we should not tolerate a project being our second option.

Ryan is far from being a project, but he should not be offended if someone calls him so. He may be an all-star soon, but he still has a lot to improve on. Players not playing winning basketball are never all-stars no matter what their stat lines say, such as al jefferson or monta ellis.
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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#250 » by The Real Dalic » Tue May 8, 2012 7:22 am

Reverse_Angle wrote:To expand on dalic's point, I think we could tolerate projects. But we should not tolerate a project being our second option.

Ryan is far from being a project, but he should not be offended if someone calls him so. He may be an all-star soon, but he still has a lot to improve on. Players not playing winning basketball are never all-stars no matter what their stat lines say, such as al jefferson or monta ellis.

That's actually better than what I said. I agree. AND, if we can get an Iggy, Smoove, D-Will type player, than we'd be fine with Anderson. We could develop him a little bit while getting Dwight the help he needs waiting for Anderson to grow. He'd only be our 4th, maybe 5th option, and we wouldn't have to rely on him so heavily.

I'm all for developing players, we just need other players around to be the top options while they do develop. . . As long as we plan on being contenders at least.
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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#251 » by drsd » Tue May 8, 2012 9:23 am

The Real Dalic wrote:AND, if we can get an Iggy, Smoove, D-Will type player, than we'd be fine with Anderson. We could develop him a little bit while getting Dwight the help he needs waiting for Anderson to grow.


So, if Orlando has Deron Williams, Andre Iguodala, Josh Smith, and Dwight Howard, then Ryan Anderson would be a good Magician to keep. Well, I agree because Stan Van Gundy could play with those four and look good.

Seriously though, to get Deron Williams, Andre Iguodala, and Josh Smith, first off, whoever is the Magic GM will without any doubt win awards for pulling that off. Secondly, Anderson would not be part of the team as he would have been a piece in a move for one of those guys.
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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#252 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Tue May 8, 2012 11:01 am

If you're doing bad in the playoffs you shouldn't be "keeping your options open" you should be hoping that the team re-signs you.
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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#253 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Tue May 8, 2012 11:10 am

magicfan4life05 wrote:http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-05-06/sports/os-orlando-magic-news-0507-20120506_1_daniel-orton-stan-van-gundy-marcin-gortat

Smith said: "We like him. We traded for him. We cleared a lot of space for him to get all those minutes that he was talking about earlier. So with that said, we want to keep him here in a Magic uniform. So we're going to do everything we can, and should, do to keep him in a Magic uniform."



I don't see the Magic letting Anderson go.

That statement is perfectly okay coming from Smith. You see, when our new GM comes, he doesn't have to keep Smith's word. And if Smith truly wanted Ryan here then he would have exercised his option, but he didn't and he's allowing him to become a free agent to where he might have to overpay him, so I fully expect Ryan and Otis to be gone.

And if it's true that Smith traded people away and cleared cap space for RYAN then he truly needs to go because he should have done those things for Dwight NOT Ryan.
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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#254 » by WeAreVenom » Tue May 8, 2012 11:13 am

drsd wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:AND, if we can get an Iggy, Smoove, D-Will type player, than we'd be fine with Anderson. We could develop him a little bit while getting Dwight the help he needs waiting for Anderson to grow.


So, if Orlando has Deron Williams, Andre Iguodala, Josh Smith, and Dwight Howard, then Ryan Anderson would be a good Magician to keep. Well, I agree because Stan Van Gundy could play with those four and look good.

Seriously though, to get Deron Williams, Andre Iguodala, and Josh Smith, first off, whoever is the Magic GM will without any doubt win awards for pulling that off. Secondly, Anderson would not be part of the team as he would have been a piece in a move for one of those guys.


I don't think Dalic meant all 3 of them, he meant any of those types of players.
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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#255 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Tue May 8, 2012 11:14 am

drsd wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:AND, if we can get an Iggy, Smoove, D-Will type player, than we'd be fine with Anderson. We could develop him a little bit while getting Dwight the help he needs waiting for Anderson to grow.


So, if Orlando has Deron Williams, Andre Iguodala, Josh Smith, and Dwight Howard, then Ryan Anderson would be a good Magician to keep. Well, I agree because Stan Van Gundy could play with those four and look good.

Seriously though, to get Deron Williams, Andre Iguodala, and Josh Smith, first off, whoever is the Magic GM will without any doubt win awards for pulling that off. Secondly, Anderson would not be part of the team as he would have been a piece in a move for one of those guys.

I think Dalic said
"If we can get an Iggy, Smoove, D-Will type player" then having Anderson is fine, not if we get all 3 of them.
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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#256 » by Blue_and_Whte » Tue May 8, 2012 12:31 pm

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Blue_and_Whte wrote:i thought he'd be okay without dwight? Smh. I knew hed flounder in the playoffs.


Welcome back homie! Yeah he has been marshmallow soft in this series. Hopefully he battles out there from this point on since we are on the brink of being eliminated.

Thanks dude.still geting settled in back in orlando..I'm cheering for him man but he isn't a second option dude. They need another star
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Post#257 » by Hilltop » Tue May 8, 2012 6:13 pm

Bensational wrote:why is Otis still talking prominently about Anderson's future here? shouldn't that be a concern for the next GM?

My fear is that Otis might actually stick around and continue screwing things up for the foreseeable future. He and Stan both need to be kicked to the curb but his roots are much deeper in the organization and he might actually survive this train wreck of a season

The fact that he is not just GM, but also President of Basketball Operations makes things a little more complicated. It might not be that easy to get rid of him. Do you remove him from both positions? Or do you simply replace him as GM but keep him in the organization as the PBO where he will continue to exert considerable influence on the moves this team makes? The former doesnt sound likely while the latter doesnt make a lot of sense. Im confused
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Post#258 » by mhectorgato » Tue May 8, 2012 6:40 pm

Hilltop wrote:
Bensational wrote:why is Otis still talking prominently about Anderson's future here? shouldn't that be a concern for the next GM?

My fear is that Otis might actually stick around and continue screwing things up for the foreseeable future. He and Stan both need to be kicked to the curb but his roots are much deeper in the organization and he might actually survive this train wreck of a season

The fact that he is not just GM, but also President of Basketball Operations makes things a little more complicated. It might not be that easy to get rid of him. Do you remove him from both positions? Or do you simply replace him as GM but keep him in the organization as the PBO where he will continue to exert considerable influence on the moves this team makes? The former doesnt sound likely while the latter doesnt make a lot of sense. Im confused


I can see that happening, unfortunately.
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Re: Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For U 

Post#259 » by Last Guardian » Wed May 9, 2012 12:16 am

Reverse_Angle wrote:To expand on dalic's point, I think we could tolerate projects. But we should not tolerate a project being our second option.



He isn't our second option. Geez one guy says it and you guys run with it.
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