Elf traded to Phoenix for second rounder

JudBuchler · Post #241 » by **JudBuchler** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:15 am

who is more childish

Payton with his decision to have his hair like that?

or the real answer

Grown a** men crying over another man's hair?

tiderulz · Post #242 » by **tiderulz** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:30 am

JudBuchler wrote:who is more childish

Payton with his decision to have his hair like that?

or the real answer

Grown a** men crying over another man's hair?

who's crying? just showing how his hair negatively affects his chosen profession

fendilim · Post #243 » by **fendilim** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:56 am

SD2042 wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
SD2042 wrote:

And1.

KOQ is decent at this point in his career. Harkless has to better his mental senses in order for his skills to be recognized on the floor. Until it happens, he’s just another Stromile Swift in the making. Just another guy with potential, but the mentality for the game is not there.

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I’m simply alluding to all of them having career seasons the second they switched teams.

Hakless was considered an untouchable from most Portland fans just last season.

Their careers may have benefited from the change of teams. Which goes to their favor. And yes, Harkless was considered untouchable last season. For whatever the reason, he regressed. After four years in the league, will he ever figure it out?

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Harkless is back to being Harkless after getting that incentive in his contract last year.

pepe1991 · Post #244 » by **pepe1991** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:58 am

Elf's first game with Suns is entertaining to watch. Bender keeps big out of paint, makes life easier to him, Jackson and him had few nice connections

MagicFan101 · Post #245 » by **MagicFan101** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:00 am

I truly wish Elf well. No... seriously... lead the Suns to the playoffs and GTFO of our way to bottom.

MagicStarwipe · Post #246 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:23 am

Elfrid looked good. 19/9/6 in 35 minutes. Looks like Phoenix are going to trust him and give him actual starters minutes and not sit him for 14 minutes straight just because his backup hit 2 shots.

JudBuchler · Post #247 » by **JudBuchler** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:41 am

MagicStarwipe wrote:Elfrid looked good. 19/9/6 in 35 minutes. Looks like Phoenix are going to trust him and give him actual starters minutes and not sit him for 14 minutes straight just because his backup hit 2 shots.

it was refreshing to see that...

Triano didnt mess with his head,

That stat line funny enough isnt even indicitive of what he could/should have had

At the very least 13-15 assists, and easily with Booker would have had that

Not to mention all the young kids for the Suns basically had a breakout type game.

This without Booker.

F Vogel

Tayswagzzz · Post #248 » by **Tayswagzzz** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:07 am

Did nobody in Orlando give him the logic on why cutting his hair would be good for his career? Like better vision and not getting in the way of his shot? Are we ran by clowns?..yes. Yes we are.

Post #249 » by **ChosenSavior** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:53 am

Yeah Elf looked really good with the Suns in his first game and got consistent playing time which allowed him to maintain his rhythm. I think his new teammates were not expecting the ball at times especially the bigs as he would have had a lot more assists in this game. He was spoon feeding teammates all night. Interested to see him and Booker share the court together.

Post #250 » by **ChosenSavior** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:55 am

JudBuchler wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:Elfrid looked good. 19/9/6 in 35 minutes. Looks like Phoenix are going to trust him and give him actual starters minutes and not sit him for 14 minutes straight just because his backup hit 2 shots.

it was refreshing to see that...

Triano didnt mess with his head,

That stat line funny enough isnt even indicitive of what he could/should have had

At the very least 13-15 assists, and easily with Booker would have had that

Not to mention all the young kids for the Suns basically had a breakout type game.

This without Booker.

F Vogel

Yeah Vogel is hot garbage especially at developing young talent which was supposedly a strength of his in Indiana (complete myth).

Revived · Post #251 » by **Revived** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:52 am

OrlandoDream wrote:If in his first game, Payton leads the Suns to a win over the nuggets and breaks their 4 game losing streak, I will be the happiest fan. They are 1-9 in their last 10. I just can't fathom how a team with Devin Booker, Josh Jackson, Chriss, can still suck so much after 2-3 seasons of the same thing. They flat out tanked hard last year for Jackson and now they got him and still suck.

This guy set the Suns back a year or two

shinoff2183 · Post #252 » by **shinoff2183** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:12 am

yoyojw17 wrote:Well.... people got their wish. FML..... and you'll want to complain about that dipo deal. This one is gonna hurt even more!

Somehow I just don't believe that will be true

OrlandoDream · Post #253 » by **OrlandoDream** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:13 am

Keep balling Elf. Help the Suns win and make them think twice about Trae Young.

Post #254 » by **SOUL** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:17 am

shinoff2183 wrote:
yoyojw17 wrote:Well.... people got their wish. FML..... and you'll want to complain about that dipo deal. This one is gonna hurt even more!

Somehow I just don't believe that will be true

If we got a decent return back for Dipo maybe this would be true (because we could stomach it), but yeah, Dipo is just straight up balling and we don't have much to show for it. Although I think Elfrid is a really good fit for the Suns.

Revived · Post #255 » by **Revived** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:35 am

axl_c_cool wrote:What bothers me is I really believe that we could have signed him to 5/25 or about that and moved on from DJ Augustine and used Elfrid as a back up which is a perfect role for him.

Whoa $5M/yr for him? Even backup guards like Corey Joseph, Lou Williams, Ish Smith, Matthew Dellavadova, Eric Gordon, Brandon Knight, Tyler Johnson among many others are making way more than that. Payton as a backup would still be worth at least the average of what all these guys make.

pepe1991 · Post #256 » by **pepe1991** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:56 am

How Marquese Chriss menaged to get worst than he was in rookie year ?
Anyway nice first game for Elf, this fast pace style fits him better than our offense would ever do. Also havig no expetations from PG position ( mostly because literally Suns had the worst PG rotation in nba ) helps. Playing games with no expetations in general helps, because Booker is out. With help of Payton Jackson& Bender looked like top picks last night, both are 20 so they will go up and down in terms of production.

Payton can hope that Suns won't resist Ayton, Bagley or Bamba and will ugrade C position to give him new life as nba starter .

Revived · Post #257 » by **Revived** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:21 am

SOUL wrote:
shinoff2183 wrote:
yoyojw17 wrote:Well.... people got their wish. FML..... and you'll want to complain about that dipo deal. This one is gonna hurt even more!

Somehow I just don't believe that will be true

If we got a decent return back for Dipo maybe this would be true (because we could stomach it), but yeah, Dipo is just straight up balling and we don't have much to show for it. Although I think Elfrid is a really good fit for the Suns.

I thought Orlando would surely spent that pick they got in the Ibaka trade (who they got in the Oladipo trade) on Kyle Kuzma rather than trading it to Philly for the 2020 1-20 protected first rounder.

I was very high on Kuzma even before the draft and he could’ve been a huge get for the Magic and eased most if not all the bad feelings away from the Oladipo trade.

MagicStarwipe · Post #258 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:45 am

Revived wrote:
SOUL wrote:
shinoff2183 wrote:

Somehow I just don't believe that will be true

If we got a decent return back for Dipo maybe this would be true (because we could stomach it), but yeah, Dipo is just straight up balling and we don't have much to show for it. Although I think Elfrid is a really good fit for the Suns.

I thought Orlando would surely spent that pick they got in the Ibaka trade (who they got in the Oladipo trade) on Kyle Kuzma rather than trading it to Philly for the 2020 1-20 protected first rounder.

I was very high on Kuzma even before the draft and he could’ve been a huge get for the Magic and eased most if not all the bad feelings away from the Oladipo trade.

We're setting new standards for incompetence at every level of our organisation over here. It's the only thing we are currently elite at.

NickAnderson · Post #259 » by **NickAnderson** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:14 pm

ChosenSavior wrote:
JudBuchler wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:Elfrid looked good. 19/9/6 in 35 minutes. Looks like Phoenix are going to trust him and give him actual starters minutes and not sit him for 14 minutes straight just because his backup hit 2 shots.

it was refreshing to see that...

Triano didnt mess with his head,

That stat line funny enough isnt even indicitive of what he could/should have had

At the very least 13-15 assists, and easily with Booker would have had that

Not to mention all the young kids for the Suns basically had a breakout type game.

This without Booker.

F Vogel

Yeah Vogel is hot garbage especially at developing young talent which was supposedly a strength of his in Indiana (complete myth).

Mario, Wes and AG haven’t had good seasons under Vogel? Or let me guess it has nothing to do with the coach.

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fendilim · Post #260 » by **fendilim** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:49 pm

NickAnderson wrote:
ChosenSavior wrote:
JudBuchler wrote:
it was refreshing to see that...

Triano didnt mess with his head,

That stat line funny enough isnt even indicitive of what he could/should have had

At the very least 13-15 assists, and easily with Booker would have had that

Not to mention all the young kids for the Suns basically had a breakout type game.

This without Booker.

F Vogel

Yeah Vogel is hot garbage especially at developing young talent which was supposedly a strength of his in Indiana (complete myth).

Mario, Wes and AG haven’t had good seasons under Vogel? Or let me guess it has nothing to do with the coach.

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Well, if you think about it, Mario and Wes weren't even part of the regular rotation before half of the start 5 went down.