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Re: Disney Bubble Talk: Schedule and Updates 

Post#241 » by drsd » Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:18 pm

Skybox wrote:It's all about the pace...Unleash the EastBeast. Put the ball in Markelle's hands and get the cardio up.


Orlando's strength will be in pushing the ball and being athletically aggressive on defense.


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Post#243 » by Skybox » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:05 pm

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Skybox wrote:It's all about the pace...Unleash the EastBeast. Put the ball in Markelle's hands and get the cardio up.


Orlando's strength will be in pushing the ball and being athletically aggressive on defense.


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OR, IMO...they will revert back to ball-stopping offense with non-creators trying to create, Vuc being mobbed in the paint, and Fultz being miscast as a spot up on the perimeter. I really hope they don't regress to that.
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Post#244 » by drsd » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:19 pm

Skybox wrote:OR, IMO...they will revert back to ball-stopping offense with non-creators trying to create, Vuc being mobbed in the paint, and Fultz being miscast as a spot up on the perimeter. I really hope they don't regress to that.


Will Orlando be the team of the first ten games or the last ten games (games 56-65); that is the question !

First ten was a 3-7 record on i) 98.1 ppg and a ii) scoring differential of MINUS 1.2 per game;
vs. last ten on a 6-4 record on i) 119.8 ppg and scoring differential of PLUS 1.9 per game.




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Post#245 » by basketballRob » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:38 pm

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Skybox wrote:OR, IMO...they will revert back to ball-stopping offense with non-creators trying to create, Vuc being mobbed in the paint, and Fultz being miscast as a spot up on the perimeter. I really hope they don't regress to that.


Will Orlando be the team of the first ten games or the last ten games (games 56-65); that is the question !

First ten was a 3-7 record on i) 98.1 ppg and a ii) scoring differential of MINUS 1.2 per game;
vs. last ten on a 6-4 record on i) 119.8 ppg and scoring differential of PLUS 1.9 per game.




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3 games without Fournier is what propped up those stats.

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Post#246 » by drsd » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:32 pm

basketballRob wrote:3 games without Fournier is what propped up those stats.


Win / loss with Fournier was 3-4 and without was 3-0. Points per game with was 117.1 and without was 126 per.
Points differential with was MINUS-2.9 per game. And without was PLUS-13.0 per


Over the last ten played games for Orlando:
You were very correct objectively.


What is truly remarkable was that the Magic was 13 point per game better in their last three ALL ON THE ROAD. WOW.
(Adding the Heat loss just before, this is still a 4-game run of being better ON THE ROAD by 9 ppg.)



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Post#247 » by rcklsscognition » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:16 pm

I'm not sure why you have him out there doing 5 on 5 if it's not a likely scenario he plays. It seems like at this point I'd be shocked if he didn't play. What's the point of putting work in now if not?
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Post#248 » by basketballRob » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:22 pm

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basketballRob wrote:3 games without Fournier is what propped up those stats.


Win / loss with Fournier was 3-4 and without was 3-0. Points per game with was 117.1 and without was 126 per.
Points differential with was MINUS-2.9 per game. And without was PLUS-13.0 per


Over the last ten played games for Orlando:
You were very correct objectively.


What is truly remarkable was that the Magic was 13 point per game better in their last three ALL ON THE ROAD. WOW.
(Adding the Heat loss just before, this is still a 4-game run of being better ON THE ROAD by 9 ppg.)



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Add in the Lakers game that was in LA also. The next game Fournier was back and we lose to the Warriors.

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Post#249 » by Skybox » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:55 pm

basketballRob wrote:
drsd wrote:
basketballRob wrote:3 games without Fournier is what propped up those stats.


Win / loss with Fournier was 3-4 and without was 3-0. Points per game with was 117.1 and without was 126 per.
Points differential with was MINUS-2.9 per game. And without was PLUS-13.0 per


Over the last ten played games for Orlando:
You were very correct objectively.


What is truly remarkable was that the Magic was 13 point per game better in their last three ALL ON THE ROAD. WOW.
(Adding the Heat loss just before, this is still a 4-game run of being better ON THE ROAD by 9 ppg.)



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Add in the Lakers game that was in LA also. The next game Fournier was back and we lose to the Warriors.

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I'm going to go with coaching style and hope Fournier is able to apply his formidable skills to a more uptempo, Fultz-centered style of play. Otherwise, you could make the same argument against Isaac who also was out for those great performances. This could be a lot of fun to watch if they can keep it rolling AND maybe see some of Isaac and an improved Bamba.
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Post#250 » by Def Swami » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:55 pm

Really good. I was a huge skeptic on this going well, but this was a crucial week of testing and their "bubble" has actually been perfectly fortified thus far. Amazing what testing with quick turnaround results, contact tracing, masks, and wise social distancing can do. And in this community with essentially no viral load, the players and people within the bubble can actually carry on with their normal leisurely activities. It's a microcosm of what the state and country should have been doing from the beginning.

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Post#251 » by basketballRob » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:57 pm

Guess we'll need a game thread soon. Who are we playing Denver?

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Post#252 » by NotACat » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:04 pm

basketballRob wrote:Guess we'll need a game thread soon. Who are we playing Denver?

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Clippers on Wednesday, Lakers on Friday, and Denver next Monday
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Post#253 » by basketballRob » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:08 pm

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basketballRob wrote:Guess we'll need a game thread soon. Who are we playing Denver?

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Clippers on Wednesday, Lakers on Friday, and Denver next Monday
At least Harrell will be gone, he gives us trouble.

Not sure how we get to play the Lakers 3 times in a year.

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Post#254 » by MagicFan101 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:38 pm

Def Swami wrote:Really good. I was a huge skeptic on this going well, but this was a crucial week of testing and their "bubble" has actually been perfectly fortified thus far. Amazing what testing with quick turnaround results, contact tracing, masks, and wise social distancing can do. And in this community with essentially no viral load, the players and people within the bubble can actually carry on with their normal leisurely activities. It's a microcosm of what the state and country should have been doing from the beginning.

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Wow. It is pretty incredible what they are pulling off. Hopefully they can keep it up.

Given that C-19 test results in Orlando are rumored to be delayed by as much as 16 days at some hospitable for the general public, what is happening at Disney for the NBA is generating a lot of public backlash but that blame falls on the government, not the NBA.

I hope what they are pulling off is an example of what can be done if we all buy in.
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Post#255 » by RookieStar » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:52 pm

basketballRob wrote:
NotACat wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Guess we'll need a game thread soon. Who are we playing Denver?

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Clippers on Wednesday, Lakers on Friday, and Denver next Monday
At least Harrell will be gone, he gives us trouble.

Not sure how we get to play the Lakers 3 times in a year.

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Harell gives us problem? I thought Vuc thrives on undersized C who doesn't have the bulk? Isn't Harell a tweener but with mad hops?
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Post#256 » by Xatticus » Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:17 am

RookieStar wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
NotACat wrote:Clippers on Wednesday, Lakers on Friday, and Denver next Monday
At least Harrell will be gone, he gives us trouble.

Not sure how we get to play the Lakers 3 times in a year.

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Harell gives us problem? I thought Vuc thrives on undersized C who doesn't have the bulk? Isn't Harell a tweener but with mad hops?


Vucevic thrives on young or undisciplined bigs. He has never really overpowered anyone. Experienced bigs that can't be rocked off balance or baited into the air just swallow him up.
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Post#257 » by RookieStar » Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:14 am

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RookieStar wrote:
basketballRob wrote:At least Harrell will be gone, he gives us trouble.

Not sure how we get to play the Lakers 3 times in a year.

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Harell gives us problem? I thought Vuc thrives on undersized C who doesn't have the bulk? Isn't Harell a tweener but with mad hops?


Vucevic thrives on young or undisciplined bigs. He has never really overpowered anyone. Experienced bigs that can't be rocked off balance or baited into the air just swallow him up.


So where does Harell rank? I alwaye thought of him as an undrsized Deandre Jordan but with more offensive skills at the cost of not wanting to play D.
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Post#258 » by basketballRob » Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:33 am

RookieStar wrote:
Xatticus wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Harell gives us problem? I thought Vuc thrives on undersized C who doesn't have the bulk? Isn't Harell a tweener but with mad hops?


Vucevic thrives on young or undisciplined bigs. He has never really overpowered anyone. Experienced bigs that can't be rocked off balance or baited into the air just swallow him up.


So where does Harell rank? I alwaye thought of him as an undrsized Deandre Jordan but with more offensive skills at the cost of not wanting to play D.
He purposely plays physical with Vuc and it works. Shamet, and Zubac are out with the coronavirus as well. Not sure if they have a third center.

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Post#259 » by RookieStar » Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:58 am

basketballRob wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Xatticus wrote:
Vucevic thrives on young or undisciplined bigs. He has never really overpowered anyone. Experienced bigs that can't be rocked off balance or baited into the air just swallow him up.


So where does Harell rank? I alwaye thought of him as an undrsized Deandre Jordan but with more offensive skills at the cost of not wanting to play D.
He purposely plays physical with Vuc and it works. Shamet, and Zubac are out with the coronavirus as well. Not sure if they have a third center.

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Well they have a lot of 6'9 players to throw at Vuc like Pat Pattwrson, Marcus Morris, Jamycheal Green... and og course they signed J.Noah too.
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Post#260 » by basketballRob » Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:15 am

RookieStar wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
So where does Harell rank? I alwaye thought of him as an undrsized Deandre Jordan but with more offensive skills at the cost of not wanting to play D.
He purposely plays physical with Vuc and it works. Shamet, and Zubac are out with the coronavirus as well. Not sure if they have a third center.

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Well they have a lot of 6'9 players to throw at Vuc like Pat Pattwrson, Marcus Morris, Jamycheal Green... and og course they signed J.Noah too.
Morris is out with coronavirus too. Or maybe it was his brother with the Lakers.

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