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thelead wrote:What are JI's advanced stats compared to last year? I haven't looked into it but I feel like he started terrible but has been better (defensively) as of late. I still do not get why he's still on some sort of minutes restriction when WCJ and Goga have been struggling.
Knightro wrote:Rainwater wrote:Knightro wrote:
Paolo was 10/24 shooting with 4 minutes left in the game.
6/8 in the final four minutes with 5 of the 6 makes coming when the Magic were down 3 possessions and Minny was conceding twos to avoid threes.
He was fine. He wasn’t as good as the final box score would indicate.
There was some significant stat padding going on. And ultimately I’m not knocking him, if they’re conceding shots, take them and hope they miss at the FT line isn’t a terrible strategy.
You keep saying this like it was a blowout but you do realize the Magic were only down 2 with less than 4 mins to go. Don’t think giving up was an option at that point.
The game didn’t really feel out of reach until the last min. That is when the stat paddling began if you want to call it that.
His basket with 3:32 to go tied the game and then Wolves immediately went on a 9-0 run that essentially put the game out of reach.
Paolo scored four baskets and made three free throws *after* that 9-0 Wolves run. All four baskets and all three free throws came with the Magic down three possessions.
Rainwater wrote:OrlandoDream wrote:Rainwater wrote:
Gogo has also been trash and JI is not a full-time center. Mose doesn't really have many options.
Goga played better to start the game then wendell the the whole game. our C situation sucks but Goga would have given more effort. Also why is JI not playing more then 10min!>?!
Honestly, Gogo didn't do much when he was in the game. I barely remember him playing. Given how poorly all the centers have been, I just don't know how you can judge Mose for whoever he chooses to play.
OrlandoDream wrote:Rainwater wrote:OrlandoDream wrote:Goga played better to start the game then wendell the the whole game. our C situation sucks but Goga would have given more effort. Also why is JI not playing more then 10min!>?!
Honestly, Gogo didn't do much when he was in the game. I barely remember him playing. Given how poorly all the centers have been, I just don't know how you can judge Mose for whoever he chooses to play.
Thats another problem to discuss. Mosleys rotations make no sense. I don't understand this 12 man rotation. Whats the point of Jett and goga to get 4-5 min then never see the game again? makes no sense
pepe1991 wrote:Through first half we gave up way too many open 3s.
During 3rd quarter, Wolves went stone cold.
In 4th quarter they tuned in their choke-defense for 8 min and turn game around ( 40 points allowed )
Mosley playing starters while they were up by 30 last night didn't help.
Franz with worst game this year.
We have habit of not feeding hot hands. Joseph 4-6, Houstan career night, 9 shots, Da Silva 3-6 FG (2-3).
People call out our centers for lack of scoring but- Carter 30 min - 5 shots, Goga 0 shots 6 min, Isaac 3 shots 9 min.
You can't really score much if 3 of your Cs combine for 8 shots
48/86 shots from two players. Paolo 43% uage, Franz 30%. Wolves offense was way more balanced, nobody with 20 shots, almost whole team shot +50% FG.
Franz sucked whole game, Paolo went from 52%-ish TS to 58% TS when game was way out of hands (4 made shots in a row in last 4 min)
As for Black blame. After near full two seasons, you know what you are getting. On team that has disciplined defense, he is useless and borderline unplayable. Against bad teams that jump lines for no reason he can get at rim.
He is at his worst against teams that put lot of pressure on ball handlers. OKC game being rare ( only? ) exception to that rule.
He didn't lost this game for us. But hoping he is your "PG" is fool's gold. He isn't guard. Let alone point guard.
Like i said on other game thread, vs Pelicans. We will now lose 3 in a row. 1/3 done.
Majority of other "play in competition" is doing everything they can to lose more, poor Bulls struggle to lose when they want to , Heat sucks right now, Hawks just lost by 40 to Clippers, Raptors are winning way too much.
KillMonger wrote:pepe1991 wrote:Through first half we gave up way too many open 3s.
During 3rd quarter, Wolves went stone cold.
In 4th quarter they tuned in their choke-defense for 8 min and turn game around ( 40 points allowed )
Mosley playing starters while they were up by 30 last night didn't help.
Franz with worst game this year.
We have habit of not feeding hot hands. Joseph 4-6, Houstan career night, 9 shots, Da Silva 3-6 FG (2-3).
People call out our centers for lack of scoring but- Carter 30 min - 5 shots, Goga 0 shots 6 min, Isaac 3 shots 9 min.
You can't really score much if 3 of your Cs combine for 8 shots
48/86 shots from two players. Paolo 43% uage, Franz 30%. Wolves offense was way more balanced, nobody with 20 shots, almost whole team shot +50% FG.
Franz sucked whole game, Paolo went from 52%-ish TS to 58% TS when game was way out of hands (4 made shots in a row in last 4 min)
As for Black blame. After near full two seasons, you know what you are getting. On team that has disciplined defense, he is useless and borderline unplayable. Against bad teams that jump lines for no reason he can get at rim.
He is at his worst against teams that put lot of pressure on ball handlers. OKC game being rare ( only? ) exception to that rule.
He didn't lost this game for us. But hoping he is your "PG" is fool's gold. He isn't guard. Let alone point guard.
Like i said on other game thread, vs Pelicans. We will now lose 3 in a row. 1/3 done.
Majority of other "play in competition" is doing everything they can to lose more, poor Bulls struggle to lose when they want to , Heat sucks right now, Hawks just lost by 40 to Clippers, Raptors are winning way too much.
wasn't it like a 2 possession game with less than 2 to go? wouldn't say that's way out of hand
ogmagicfan wrote:KillMonger wrote:pepe1991 wrote:Through first half we gave up way too many open 3s.
During 3rd quarter, Wolves went stone cold.
In 4th quarter they tuned in their choke-defense for 8 min and turn game around ( 40 points allowed )
Mosley playing starters while they were up by 30 last night didn't help.
Franz with worst game this year.
We have habit of not feeding hot hands. Joseph 4-6, Houstan career night, 9 shots, Da Silva 3-6 FG (2-3).
People call out our centers for lack of scoring but- Carter 30 min - 5 shots, Goga 0 shots 6 min, Isaac 3 shots 9 min.
You can't really score much if 3 of your Cs combine for 8 shots
48/86 shots from two players. Paolo 43% uage, Franz 30%. Wolves offense was way more balanced, nobody with 20 shots, almost whole team shot +50% FG.
Franz sucked whole game, Paolo went from 52%-ish TS to 58% TS when game was way out of hands (4 made shots in a row in last 4 min)
As for Black blame. After near full two seasons, you know what you are getting. On team that has disciplined defense, he is useless and borderline unplayable. Against bad teams that jump lines for no reason he can get at rim.
He is at his worst against teams that put lot of pressure on ball handlers. OKC game being rare ( only? ) exception to that rule.
He didn't lost this game for us. But hoping he is your "PG" is fool's gold. He isn't guard. Let alone point guard.
Like i said on other game thread, vs Pelicans. We will now lose 3 in a row. 1/3 done.
Majority of other "play in competition" is doing everything they can to lose more, poor Bulls struggle to lose when they want to , Heat sucks right now, Hawks just lost by 40 to Clippers, Raptors are winning way too much.
wasn't it like a 2 possession game with less than 2 to go? wouldn't say that's way out of hand
107-101 with 1:10 left in the game
ogmagicfan wrote:KillMonger wrote:pepe1991 wrote:Through first half we gave up way too many open 3s.
During 3rd quarter, Wolves went stone cold.
In 4th quarter they tuned in their choke-defense for 8 min and turn game around ( 40 points allowed )
Mosley playing starters while they were up by 30 last night didn't help.
Franz with worst game this year.
We have habit of not feeding hot hands. Joseph 4-6, Houstan career night, 9 shots, Da Silva 3-6 FG (2-3).
People call out our centers for lack of scoring but- Carter 30 min - 5 shots, Goga 0 shots 6 min, Isaac 3 shots 9 min.
You can't really score much if 3 of your Cs combine for 8 shots
48/86 shots from two players. Paolo 43% uage, Franz 30%. Wolves offense was way more balanced, nobody with 20 shots, almost whole team shot +50% FG.
Franz sucked whole game, Paolo went from 52%-ish TS to 58% TS when game was way out of hands (4 made shots in a row in last 4 min)
As for Black blame. After near full two seasons, you know what you are getting. On team that has disciplined defense, he is useless and borderline unplayable. Against bad teams that jump lines for no reason he can get at rim.
He is at his worst against teams that put lot of pressure on ball handlers. OKC game being rare ( only? ) exception to that rule.
He didn't lost this game for us. But hoping he is your "PG" is fool's gold. He isn't guard. Let alone point guard.
Like i said on other game thread, vs Pelicans. We will now lose 3 in a row. 1/3 done.
Majority of other "play in competition" is doing everything they can to lose more, poor Bulls struggle to lose when they want to , Heat sucks right now, Hawks just lost by 40 to Clippers, Raptors are winning way too much.
wasn't it like a 2 possession game with less than 2 to go? wouldn't say that's way out of hand
107-101 with 1:10 left in the game
Knightro wrote:thelead wrote:What are JI's advanced stats compared to last year? I haven't looked into it but I feel like he started terrible but has been better (defensively) as of late. I still do not get why he's still on some sort of minutes restriction when WCJ and Goga have been struggling.
You’re correct.
His Defensive EPM is currently a season high +2.0 (98th percentile).
I don't even think things seem that dire when you zoom out just a teensy bit.KillMonger wrote:as dire as things may seem...it shouldn't take that much to improve the team.......at least in theory.......get rid of the dead weight....add competent players around paolo and franz.....for me we don't necessarily need a ball dominant PG......would love a center that could block shots rebound and spread the floor but those don't grow on trees....not only that though we got to have a decent bench as well....now that i've said all that maybe it's a bit harder than i think....either way no matter who we bring in the development of paolo and franz is key, we all know what they need to work on...we go as far as they take us