Magic to sign C.J. Watson to an offer sheet.

jamesgrenard · Post #241 » by **jamesgrenard** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:46 pm

Sign Watson!

OMagic1989 · Post #242 » by **OMagic1989** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:06 pm

Where is Swish he was supposed to interview CJ today and ask him all these questions.

No one seems to know what we sign Barnes for. If it is vet min for a 2 year deal with player out after one then we could still get CJ straight up. Otherwise we will have to do a S&T and get creative if this is where he wants to still go.

delsol650 · Post #243 » by **delsol650** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:26 pm

Dubs have no need for JJ, we have enough under 6'6" chuckers here. LOL

ProfX · Post #244 » by **ProfX** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:31 pm

I was thinking of a JJ for Dooling trade. Might benefit both teams.

Swish14 · Post #245 » by **Swish14** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:47 pm

OMagic1989 wrote:Where is Swish he was supposed to interview CJ today and ask him all these questions.

No one seems to know what we sign Barnes for. If it is vet min for a 2 year deal with player out after one then we could still get CJ straight up. Otherwise we will have to do a S&T and get creative if this is where he wants to still go.

The interview is tonight around 10 ET (he's in Vegas so the time difference screwed things up).

Horcy · Post #246 » by **Horcy** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:11 pm

ProfX wrote:Well the problem is do we have anymore room under the salary cap to sign him. Even though RDV has opened up the wallet we still have NBA restrictions to deal with. While Barnes contract hasn't been released I imagine it ate up the rest of the MLE. We have the TPE from Dooling that expires tommorrow, but Golden State would have to be willing to do that. JJ could be moved and honestly with as stacked as we are, that's probably the best thing for him. Get him somewhere that he can get some time and work for a contract. We need a backup PG. I like AJ, but we need someone younger with this core. I do agree we need three PG or at least two and a backup 1/2

Barnes contract has been released.
Two-year, $3.2 million contract. The deal includes a player option of $1.6 million in 2010-11

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AqK_4KN3VFT6K15bBSDBEIW8vLYF?slug=aw-barnes072109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I definitely want CJ here. I trust Otis will make some magic!!! :pray:

Post #247 » by **craig01** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:13 pm

Pieces are almost all in place.

Amazing.

Horcy · Post #248 » by **Horcy** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:25 pm

BurningBridges wrote:Must I also add, the Magic can also do a sign and trade using part of Hedo's 7 million dollar trade exception and cash considerations obtained from Dallas and Toronto!

Is this true? So, we could trade a pick + part of the trade exception to obtain CJ? It seems very reasonable. He wants a 3 year deal (would be perfect for us too).

BurningBridges · Post #249 » by **BurningBridges** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:47 pm

Horcy wrote:
BurningBridges wrote:Must I also add, the Magic can also do a sign and trade using part of Hedo's 7 million dollar trade exception and cash considerations obtained from Dallas and Toronto!

Is this true? So, we could trade a pick + part of the trade exception to obtain CJ? It seems very reasonable. He wants a 3 year deal (would be perfect for us too).

No, the trade exception cannot be coupled with any players. And we cannot trade a draft pick since we already did that earlier this year...NBA rules restrict consecutive trading of draft picks. However, if Otis uses the rest of Dooling's expiring TE of 2 million plus or a portion of Hedo's 7 million TE alone, that should be enough to do a sign and trade.

BurningBridges · Post #250 » by **BurningBridges** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:49 pm

Guys let it be known to everyone that Dooling's Trade Exception (we still have a little over 2 million dollars left of it) EXPIRES TOMORROW. Otis, please do not let it go to waste. Hopefully, this is enough to lure Watson away from GS.

delsol650 · Post #251 » by **delsol650** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:52 pm

Since you guys have been taking a bunch of previous warriors players and mgmt folks, can you also take MAGS while your at it > :pray:

RookieStar · Post #252 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:58 pm

delsol650 wrote:Since you guys have been taking a bunch of previous warriors players and mgmt folks, can you also take MAGS while your at it >

ummm.. if you send us Bierdrins as well I think we could work something out

Horcy · Post #253 » by **Horcy** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:00 pm

BurningBridges wrote:No, the trade exception cannot be coupled with any players. And we cannot trade a draft pick since we already did that earlier this year...NBA rules restrict consecutive trading of draft picks. However, if Otis uses the rest of Dooling's expiring TE of 2 million plus or a portion of Hedo's 7 million TE alone, that should be enough to do a sign and trade.

Perfect to me!!

Better than a s&t.
Thanks dude

RookieStar · Post #254 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:22 pm

First of all, I'm glad I didn't overreact when some were calling for Otis' head when they saw our lineup after the Vc trade.

Second, aren't we getting too much depth? Don't get me wrong, I like it, but... won't it affect chemistry issues? Look at the past champions like Boston and LA. They got a strong 5, 3 good bench players and some scrubs. We have a strong 5 plus (if CJ does signs with us) 6 good bench players.
WOn't our bench sulk or something seeign as they see another bench player get more minutes than them?

Viper1500 · Post #255 » by **Viper1500** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:26 pm

RookieStar wrote:First of all, I'm glad I didn't overreact when some were calling for Otis' head when they saw our lineup after the Vc trade.

Second, aren't we getting too much depth? Don't get me wrong, I like it, but... won't it affect chemistry issues? Look at the past champions like Boston and LA. They got a strong 5, 3 good bench players and some scrubs. We have a strong 5 plus (if CJ does signs with us) 6 good bench players.
WOn't our bench sulk or something seeign as they see another bench player get more minutes than them?

No such thing as too much depth.

RookieStar · Post #256 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:29 am

Viper1500 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:First of all, I'm glad I didn't overreact when some were calling for Otis' head when they saw our lineup after the Vc trade.

Second, aren't we getting too much depth? Don't get me wrong, I like it, but... won't it affect chemistry issues? Look at the past champions like Boston and LA. They got a strong 5, 3 good bench players and some scrubs. We have a strong 5 plus (if CJ does signs with us) 6 good bench players.
WOn't our bench sulk or something seeign as they see another bench player get more minutes than them?

No such thing as too much depth.

Yeah on principle and paper. What about when egos or feelings start to get hurt. Thankfully the magic never had this problem aside form the "mini" one in Gortat(knock on wood). That was however when we didn't have as much depth and experience of a bench.

Magix3 · Post #257 » by **Magix3** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:17 am

No, there is no such thing as too much depth... SVG will handle egos

Post #258 » by **Dome** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:36 am

When there's an 18 page thread as to whether the Magic are going to sign CJ Watson or not, you know it's a slow offseason... :lol:

Optimus_Steel · Post #259 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:46 pm

At this point I fully expect Otis to be looking at other options. Remember we are not looking for a lot, just a capable 2nd/3rd string PG.

magicfan4life05 · Post #260 » by **magicfan4life05** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:21 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... cj_watson/

Sixers Still Have Eye On C.J. Watson

While the Sixers remain in a sign-and-trade mode concerning unrestricted free agent Andre Miller, a source indicated that Ed Stefanski has also been monitoring a situation involving Golden State Warriors free agent guard C.J. Watson and the Orlando Magic.

The source confirmed that Watson had earlier rejected a 1-year, $2.3 million offer from the Sixers. If Watson were not to sign with the Magic, it is possible that the Sixers could make a fresh offer. Derrick Powell, one of Watson's agents, said Watson is working out regularly in Las Vegas, where he makes his home.