2023 NBA Draft Thread

RookieStar · Post #2541 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:55 am

RichCollab wrote:
basketballRob wrote:I think the majority of teams are taking Miller at 2 right now. Scoot had a so so season, and Miller broke out.

Draftnet and Tankathon, depending on which team has the pick have Miller at 2 now.

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People will come to there senses closer to draft and Scoot will go back to 2.

Or has been said, GMs already know who are the top 2 and its the *outsiders* throwing ish up to see what it can stir.

Let me remind everybody that Vic and Scoot has been in everyonea radar for more than 2 years already. Ylu cam bet they already know what they are getting with those 2.

Its like Paolo, the top 3 teams already targeted Paolo ( even us but never said anything ) but was content to let outsiders think Chet or Jabari had a chance.. heck Chet knew he wasnt the #1 pick and thats why he wasnt serious in his interviews/workout with us.

basketballRob · Post #2542 » by **basketballRob** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:56 am

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basketballRob · Post #2543 » by **basketballRob** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:16 am

I'm still not sure about the difference between Amen Thompson and MCW.

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pepe1991 · Post #2544 » by **pepe1991** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:17 am

basketballRob wrote:I'm still not sure about the difference between Amen Thompson and MCW.

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Amen in particular is very gifted passer and natural PG, where MCW was more ballhandler because he kind a couldn't play anything else.
They are aslo better built, stronger frames.
MCW had fundamentally broken jumpshot, he shot ball with basically both hands in shooting motion, palmed ball too much, finger position was/is ultra awkward and he can't repeat his motion because tehnique is simply poor.
Twins shooting motion isn't that bad, they just have awkward offball shooting elbow position.

That doesn't mean they will be new Steph Curry tho, but i think their shooting form is fixable to the point it's not massive issue, where MCW was hopeless.

I would not draft them on Magic for obvious reasons, but they are talented, now question is how much they can improve as shooters.

basketballRob · Post #2545 » by **basketballRob** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:25 am

pepe1991 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:I'm still not sure about the difference between Amen Thompson and MCW.

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Amen in particular is very gifted passer and natural PG, where MCW was more ballhandler because he kind a couldn't play anything else.
They are aslo better built, stronger frames.
MCW had fundamentally broken jumpshot, he shot ball with basically both hands in shooting motion, palmed ball too much, finger position was/is ultra awkward and he can't repeat his motion because tehnique is simply poor.
Twins shooting motion isn't that bad, they just have awkward offball shooting elbow position.

That doesn't mean they will be new Steph Curry tho, but i think their shooting form is fixable to the point it's not massive issue, where MCW was hopeless.

I would not draft them on Magic for obvious reasons, but they are talented, now question is how much they can improve as shooters.

Their shot looks low and awkward to me.

It's a weird year where we could draft them both, and I'm sure they'll work out here together. So we'll see.

I have a feeling they might be our picks, but I'm afraid they'll never be able to shoot.

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Post #2546 » by **Knightro** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:56 pm

basketballRob wrote:I'm still not sure about the difference between Amen Thompson and MCW.

Athleticism is one big separation point.

MCW was a solid athlete. The twins are both a level or two above MCW from an athleticism perspective.

yoyojw17 · Post #2547 » by **yoyojw17** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:01 pm

Knightro wrote:
basketballRob wrote:I'm still not sure about the difference between Amen Thompson and MCW.

Athleticism is one big separation point.

MCW was a solid athlete. The twins are both a level or two above MCW from an athleticism perspective.

Yeah.... from what has been discussed... they are on that alpha level of athletism... while having great BBIQ... two-way players.... capable scorers and facilitators..... that are a jumpshot away from greatness. yup... always the story... and the IF they do... is the big part. But... if you hit on that IF... you just won the draft. lol

basketballRob · Post #2548 » by **basketballRob** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:21 pm

MCWs old clips look like the same level of athleticism, to me.

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sChOlaRlY_Magi · Post #2549 » by **sChOlaRlY_Magi** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:33 pm

Is anyone else happy about the growth of our players while simultaneously being happy we are racking up Ls?

I would love to add a top 3 pick as well as the bulls from this draft, and end up running a 10 man+ rotation to start the year and get all these kids reps. Similar to what the Grizz seemed to have done over the past few years.

I can't recall how excited I've been for "internal growth" from the Magic as I am for this year. I like that the losses are close, and we're still keeping ourselves in the mix for picks 1-3.

I'm more concerned with Bulls wins at the moment! lol

Post #2550 » by **eyriq** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:42 pm

sChOlaRlY_Magi wrote:Is anyone else happy about the growth of our players while simultaneously being happy we are racking up Ls?

I would love to add a top 3 pick as well as the bulls from this draft, and end up running a 10 man+ rotation to start the year and get all these kids reps. Similar to what the Grizz seemed to have done over the past few years.

I can't recall how excited I've been for "internal growth" from the Magic as I am for this year. I like that the losses are close, and we're still keeping ourselves in the mix for picks 1-3.

I'm more concerned with Bulls wins at the moment! lol

Same. Outside of Paolo and Franz being so good we skip a level and make the playoffs this is lining up to be the perfect season.

Post #2551 » by **Knightro** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:44 pm

Ausar's shooting appears to be a little further along than Amen's does. Both in willingness to shoot and accuracy shooting.

Including the OTE playoffs, the Thompson twins played 21 games apiece.

Amen: 16-63 3PT (.254) and 66-96 FT (.688)
Ausar: 33-99 3PT (.333) and 63-90 FT (.700)

Post #2552 » by **Knightro** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:01 pm

It's just tough to really evaluate the twins. The athleticism pops off the screen and they're both more skilled than people think in terms of passing and handling the ball.

But they're a year older than typical one-and-done players (although Weltman and Hammond haven't been overly concerned with older prospects in the past) and the level of competition they played was clearly a step below NCAA and the G-League. And right now neither one of them has shot the ball all that well (Amen worse than Ausar).

They're just really difficult to judge.

fendilim · Post #2553 » by **fendilim** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:04 pm

Thompson twins screams RW if they cant learn to shoot. That’s scary.

yoyojw17 · Post #2554 » by **yoyojw17** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:12 pm

fendilim wrote:Thompson twins screams RW if they cant learn to shoot. That’s scary.

but 6'7" with defense... a different kind of passion for the game.... i'll take that. lol

basketballRob · Post #2555 » by **basketballRob** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:36 pm

yoyojw17 wrote:
fendilim wrote:Thompson twins screams RW if they cant learn to shoot. That’s scary.

but 6'7" with defense... a different kind of passion for the game.... i'll take that. lol

MCW is 6'7 with defense, and that's probably their floor.

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Petre1978 · Post #2556 » by **Petre1978** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:06 pm

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Ducklett · Post #2557 » by **Ducklett** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:20 pm

Knightro wrote:
basketballRob wrote:I'm still not sure about the difference between Amen Thompson and MCW.

Athleticism is one big separation point.

MCW was a solid athlete. The twins are both a level or two above MCW from an athleticism perspective.

I was reading from some scouts that Amen would instantly be a top 5 athlete in the NBA the second he stepped on the court. I dunno if that is agent puffery though.

Post #2558 » by **eyriq** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:28 pm

Is Cason Wallace the best college point guard prospect?

RookieStar · Post #2559 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:20 pm

eyriq wrote:Is Cason Wallace the best college point guard prospect?

Prospect is the correct word.

To your question, probably. He is/was inconsistent in his college career for me, but combine that with his age and PG position, then yeah sure. There are other college PGs better than him for me but they are upperclassmen and they didn't have the same level of teammates that Cason has. Also don't think they are planning to go to the draft this time anyway.

Ralof · Post #2560 » by **Ralof** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:25 pm

Friendly reminder: you try to draft the best player,that means the guy who could be the best nba player.

if you think a thompson twin could be a"serious"ben simmons,or a livingston without injuries,you draft him,even if he does not fit with our team right now.

so many times we,me first,think about draft with fit in mind,if not roles,skills.