Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXI: Off-Season Edition)

[ThatFloridaDude]

He's had plenty of time..[/quote]
Oh really mr devos? And who the **** are you pretending to know what it takes to be a gm of a professional basketball team. God damnit, this isnt like pressing "A" to force the Lakers to accept the trade.[/quote]

Dude don't come cursing at me. Quite frankly **** YOU

[Skin]

I'd rather have Al Horford or Jason Thompson over Bynum.

Are the rest of you as confident as this guy in regards to Bynum's chronic knee condition?

[ThatFloridaDude]

I hope Henny hasn't blown the Houston deal. Is it official that Houston is out of the running and has pulled their offer, if indeed there was one?

Official? Nothing's official. They never officially made that offer.

Everything is rumor and speculation.

I was wondering because of several posts claiming Houston took themselves out of the Howard sweepstakes.

I think Houston really goes after ASIK. I think they are feeling the same as New Jersey, tired of dealing with Dwight's indecision's and Orlando's reluctance.

[PeePee la Fritz]

This forum is getting feisty......anyone else turned on?!?!

[rshepard1985]

I'd rather have Al Horford or Jason Thompson over Bynum.

Are the rest of you as confident as this guy in regards to Bynum's chronic knee condition?

I'm not really confident in either player. But Bynum's talent is FAR superior than Horford or Thompson.

[SolidSnake008]

lmao people already getting fed up with Hennigan? wow man have a bit of patience people....he gets paid to do this i'm sure he trying to not leave any stone unturned.....he's a smart guy he'll make the trade when the pieces and structure makes sense.....it seems people want to make a deal just to move on already.....

Thats quite obviously the feeling. We dont have a coach, we don't have a total team put together no game plan or anything. It's july. We have been dealing with this since MAY. Rob's answers at the presser indicates he a a slow mover , but in more of a thorough way, which is nice to have but some assertiveness is deserving to the fans of this team. It seems as though Rob is unwilling at this point. But who knows?

Anyhow I know I'd much rather know my team as a coach, coming into this situation with a franchise.

it's messy situation for sure but there are a lot of unknowns....what if Rob wants to make a deal and it's upper management holding it up? Devos family has the final say what if they haven't signed off on it yet? the one thing i hate is not knowing anything....i like having all the information...so the not knowing is really killing me slowly....plus the fact that the Dwight thing put everything else on the backburner like the coaching search possibly.....

[Blue_and_Whte]

I hope Henny hasn't blown the Houston deal. Is it official that Houston is out of the running and has pulled their offer, if indeed there was one?

Official? Nothing's official. They never officially made that offer.

Everything is rumor and speculation.

I was wondering because of several posts claiming Houston took themselves out of the Howard sweepstakes.

Right so how would henny be responsible for that? Can you give the guy a year, ONE freaking year, before you start prepping to bash him? My god, knee jerk ass mutha fu...

Like I said in another thread mentality of this fan base " If Rob doesn't make the trade I, the arm chair GM, wants then Rob is a horrible GM for life!!"

[cvMagic]

I'd rather have Al Horford or Jason Thompson over Bynum.

Jason Thompson is lolworthy, but I'd rather have Horford than Bynum, any day.

At least Horford isn't physiologically predisposed toward serious physical injury. Bynum is a ticking timebomb.

Al Horford also isn't psychologically predisposed of getting out of the first round of the playoffs either.

Horford has reached his ceiling. He will never be a 25 and 12 guy. In fact, he's about a 14 and 9 guy. Bynum, without question, has the ability for 25 and 15. He's had 10 block games, 30 rebound games, and put up 25 pts a game without Kobe.

Ask 100 experts who'd they'd rather have.
See if you get one vote for Horford.

[rshepard1985]

I think Houston really goes after ASIK. I think they are feeling the same as New Jersey, tired of dealing with Dwight's indecision's and Orlando's reluctance.

What gave you that idea? The fact they're agreed to an offer sheet that both Asik and Houston will sign on the 11th?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-rockets-to-sign-asik-to-25-million-offer-20120701,0,5952710.story

[OrlandO]

I'd rather have Al Horford or Jason Thompson over Bynum.

Are the rest of you as confident as this guy in regards to Bynum's chronic knee condition?

He looked fine to me this past season... played most minutes per game in his career and played all games of the condensed schedule. Now he's going to get them enhanced with Kobe's super healing fountain of youth mystery treatment. Not that he's guaranteed to be injury free, but I'd still prefer him over other offers.

[ThatFloridaDude]

Lakers Have 'Growing List Of Concerns' About Dealing For Howard
Jul 03, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

While the Lakers do appear to be in play for Dwight Howard, they also have a 'growing list of concerns' on actually acquiring him, according to a source.

Howard underwent season-ending back surgery on a bulging disk and it is unclear if he would actually sign a contract extension after privately saying he didn't want to play for the Lakers.

The Lakers also are uninterested in taking back additional salary in a trade for Howard.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... z1zadlN8GG

Growing list of concerns. This is why, for the people saying why I want to rush into, is my reasoning for questioning Rob's slow moving decision making. Don't get me wrong I'm all for the best decisions but sometimes its best to take what you can get before it's too late. A lot of teams before a few weeks ago didn't have a growing list of concerns. They would take Howard, Rent Howard, no issues. Now that things have spiraled out of control, teams are thinking, twice, three times about this. I mean Rob says he wants to make the best move, there must be something else on the table for him to be so patient.
But the growing concerns is hurting us if the rebuilding, or building around another all star route is the route we want to go.

[Nyce_1]

Bynum here = Shaw getting hired

[mhectorgato]

Growing list of concerns. This is why, for the people saying why I want to rush into

Rob's answers at the presser indicates he a a slow mover , but in more of a thorough way, which is nice to have

[OrlandO]

Lakers Have 'Growing List Of Concerns' About Dealing For Howard
Jul 03, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

While the Lakers do appear to be in play for Dwight Howard, they also have a 'growing list of concerns' on actually acquiring him, according to a source.

Howard underwent season-ending back surgery on a bulging disk and it is unclear if he would actually sign a contract extension after privately saying he didn't want to play for the Lakers.

The Lakers also are uninterested in taking back additional salary in a trade for Howard.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... z1zadlN8GG

Growing list of concerns. This is why, for the people saying why I want to rush into, is my reasoning for questioning Rob's slow moving decision making. Don't get me wrong I'm all for the best decisions but sometimes its best to take what you can get before it's too late. A lot of teams before a few weeks ago didn't have a growing list of concerns. They would take Howard, Rent Howard, no issues. Now that things have spiraled out of control. teams are thinking, twice, three times about this. I mean Rob says he wants to make the best move, there must be something else on the table for him to be so patient.
But the growing concerns is hurting is if the rebuilding, or building around another all star route is the route we want to go.

LA is clearly trying to take advantage of Henny's inexperience by scaring him into a deal that doesn't include one of our bad contracts... smh.

[NickAndersonsBack25]

Lakers Have 'Growing List Of Concerns' About Dealing For Howard
Jul 03, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

While the Lakers do appear to be in play for Dwight Howard, they also have a 'growing list of concerns' on actually acquiring him, according to a source.

Howard underwent season-ending back surgery on a bulging disk and it is unclear if he would actually sign a contract extension after privately saying he didn't want to play for the Lakers.

The Lakers also are uninterested in taking back additional salary in a trade for Howard.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... z1zadlN8GG

Growing list of concerns. This is why, for the people saying why I want to rush into, is my reasoning for questioning Rob's slow moving decision making. Don't get me wrong I'm all for the best decisions but sometimes its best to take what you can get before it's too late. A lot of teams before a few weeks ago didn't have a growing list of concerns. They would take Howard, Rent Howard, no issues. Now that things have spiraled out of control, teams are thinking, twice, three times about this. I mean Rob says he wants to make the best move, there must be something else on the table for him to be so patient.
But the growing concerns is hurting us if the rebuilding, or building around another all star route is the route we want to go.

GTFU. It's Laker gamesmenship.

No team -- HOU, LAL, or other -- would just rush into a deal with Dwight's uncertain future. They'd talk to him first.

[woosah]

Right so how would henny be responsible for that? Can you give the guy a year, ONE freaking year, before you start prepping to bash him? My god, knee jerk ass mutha fu...

Like I said in another thread mentality of this fan base " If Rob doesn't make the trade I, the arm chair GM, wants then Rob is a horrible GM for life!!"

but you act like that just started today. nothing unusual about the rollercoaster nature of this forum. it's giving me the lulz actually.

[The Effect]

Lakers Have 'Growing List Of Concerns' About Dealing For Howard
Jul 03, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

While the Lakers do appear to be in play for Dwight Howard, they also have a 'growing list of concerns' on actually acquiring him, according to a source.

Howard underwent season-ending back surgery on a bulging disk and it is unclear if he would actually sign a contract extension after privately saying he didn't want to play for the Lakers.

The Lakers also are uninterested in taking back additional salary in a trade for Howard.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... z1zadlN8GG

Growing list of concerns. This is why, for the people saying why I want to rush into, is my reasoning for questioning Rob's slow moving decision making. Don't get me wrong I'm all for the best decisions but sometimes its best to take what you can get before it's too late. A lot of teams before a few weeks ago didn't have a growing list of concerns. They would take Howard, Rent Howard, no issues. Now that things have spiraled out of control, teams are thinking, twice, three times about this. I mean Rob says he wants to make the best move, there must be something else on the table for him to be so patient.
But the growing concerns is hurting us if the rebuilding, or building around another all star route is the route we want to go.

Which is why i was hoping we hired a GM a month before the draft so he would have time to work this out BEFORE the draft, but with him getting hired less than a week before, it made it nearly impossible to get anything done. But now, he HAS to take his time and make the best deal possible going forward, cant just rush a decision no matter how bad the fans (myself include) want this to before with ASAP

[ThatFloridaDude]

I think Houston really goes after ASIK. I think they are feeling the same as New Jersey, tired of dealing with Dwight's indecision's and Orlando's reluctance.

What gave you that idea? The fact they're agreed to an offer sheet that both Asik and Houston will sign on the 11th?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-rockets-to-sign-asik-to-25-million-offer-20120701,0,5952710.story

Obviously. But what I said meaning if chicago matches, then Houston will indeed go after another center. They want and need a center. Dalmbert was dealt before draft. So while they would love Dwight I just don't think even if they don't get Asik, that they will enter the season without a center who which it seems they are willing to pay big money for.

[bigmoe1952]

I understand the "patience" angle. And I wouldn't pretend to be a GMm or even qualified to be one. But it looks like the Lakers are balking at the Howard deal now. Houston may be backing off. I mean I think teams are tired of playing games with the Magic and Howard. It is F/A season and teams are trying to add to their teams before all the quality F/A get snapped up. They do not have time to play the waiting game with Dwight and Hennigan. In the meantime, apparently some potentially appealing trade offers are vaporizing. I hope Henny is not over his head here.

[The Effect]

Bynum here = Shaw getting hired

Would still prefer malone, but would be happy with shaw